Special thanks to Faith for writing this take and giving us the privilege to add it to GetGarnett.com. Again, if you guys see anything Lakers related that you think deserves to be put up, just e-mail us at GetGarnett@gmail.com.

I don’t know how many of you saw the Lakers Special Report on Fox Sports Net with Stu, Jack Haley, and Bill McDonald where they predicted what moves and what direction the Lakers were going to do this off-season (FYI, it was very, very early on in the season, pre-Kobe diatribe). And if you saw it, you’ll know that they pretty much predicted NIL, ZIP, NADA. As in stand pat, we’re not looking to improve our team; instead we’re waiting for our team to grow.

Wonder if Kobe saw that same program?

In any case, it seems as if we’re operating under the status quo. Last I heard we’re still not looking to go out there and get talent (not to mention defense). We’ve resigned Luke, won the jackpot and were able to sign Fish, and we’ve resigned Mihm. What a busy, busy off-season for the Lakers front office.

Sure, there was rumblings of a Kevin Garnett trade. But as we digest articles over articles, you have to question whether we had a chance at all, not to mention if our team really tried their best. Of course there’s much to be said about not having enough trade-able pieces to really make it work, to make any trade work really.

Now, we’re hearing of a possible Jermaine O’Neal trade. But then again, there was an article posted here in GetGarnett.com that simply states Mitch Kupchak and the Lakers Front Office “have taken the summer off.”

The off-season is almost over. Looking back to the Lakers Report, outside of Fish, has things really changed? Did the front office get their stuff in gear and awaken from their slumber? Or does it seem like they’re still standing pat letting our team grow? It seems like the FSN staff was right on. The Lakers will stand pat. Which is not to say it’s a bad thing. Outside of some very frustrating aspects of this team, no one can argue what would have been had we not gotten so many injuries. Still this fan in particular can sympathize with Kobe’s frustration.

Well at least one status quo has changed. We didn’t ask Smush Parker to come back. Let’s all take comfort in that.

  • cyrus

    Thank you Faith for the great piece.LOL

    The marginal moves they made until now, have been all lucky coincident:

    Fisher fell into their lap, he moved to LA because of his daughter and the logical destination was Lakers. Kupchack didn’t go out his way to sign Fisher. It was a lucky coincident in which Kuchak didn’t need to move a finger.

    Javaris Crittenton; that one also fell in their lap, he was luckily available at the 19 and was drafted. Did he worked hard to land him? No, it was a draft.

    Chis Mihm did try to sign a better deal with another team unsuccessfully, and he fell in their lap too, he had no choice.

    This Management is not going out of their way to do anything to improve this team at all. Its absurd, it’s aggravating, it’s annoying……

  • Justin M.

    [quote comment="11687"]Thank you Faith for the great piece.LOL

    The marginal moves they made until now, have been all lucky coincident:

    Fisher fell into their lap, he moved to LA because of his daughter and the logical destination was Lakers. Kupchack didn’t go out his way to sign Fisher. It was a lucky coincident in which Kuchak didn’t need to move a finger.

    Javaris Crittenton; that one also fell in their lap, he was luckily available at the 19 and was drafted. Did he worked hard to land him? No, it was a draft.

    Chis Mihm did try to sign a better deal with another team unsuccessfully, and he fell in their lap too, he had no choice.

    This Management is not going out of their way to do anything to improve this team at all. Its absurd, it’s aggravating, it’s annoying……[/quote]

    Hey, don’t forget how hard they worked to resign Luke. Oh and how could you forget about Cobey Karl! The Lakers future is’nt looking so bright.

  • gugy

    sorry for being pessimistic, but Lakers future at this point seem very, very dark.

  • MacBSlick

    Well I have to say adding Fish and Crittenton should give Phil some comfort running the triangle. As far as Lamar and Kwame go I have no faith thier going to be any better than last season. Both were injured, both have had surgery. Neither one has been able to work on thier game (so called).
    Luke well in my opinion Luke just fizzled out last year. Yeah he sprained his ankle, But Ive seen lots of players with taped up ankles play with more heart than Luke did.
    Then theres Mihm. What are we truely going to get from him after being hurt for more than 1 season?
    Bynum hasnt even turned 20 yet. What are we going to get this season? Will he fizzle away again? What can we expect from a 20 year old?
    And then we have Cookie and the rest. Give me a break.
    Im just not sold on this unit, excluding Kobe not one player has stepped up and made a difference for this team. What the F.O. sees is beyond me. Kobe is heading into his 13th season. He needs some help. Why the F.O. is so dead set on standing pat in just bewildering in my opinion. Why has Phil been so quite about all this? Hes got another 82 games to play with this same unit! Get kobe some help before he hurts himself or opts out which ever comes first.

  • sirtoken

    Hey guys, show some patience. Have you ever played poker. It all about leverage. You cannot make a decent trade if you have no leverage. First you have to let the Kobe ventilation die down, then lets see how good our young players are going to be(bynum).
    To get O’neil we all agree that we cannot give too much were we gut our team. The only other bidder is NJ. And in my opinion their package is not as good as the bynum, rad, brown, farmar package.
    Indy is under more pressure than we are , as long as Kobe keeps quiet. What if Bynum has a breakout year and scores 15ppg and 8-10rbg. We might not want to do the trade! I say we wait until the trading deadline and see what happens. Might even pick up Artest for cheap if he messes up again.

  • Faith

    My biggest issue is there were some very obvious holes in this team…and we’ve yet to really address them.

    If you look at our roster up and down, there’s really only one durable guy I can see. And that’s Kobe. Seeing as we’re gonna be looking for him to carry us (again), it doesn’t bode well for his health either (not to mention emotional health).

    We were a slowww team last year. Though to be fair we had height going for us. Then again, we didn’t use that to our advantage versus Phoenix either.

    This season is definitely not as rosy going in as last…but hey they’re our team. We’ve gots to have faith and support anyways. Gnats! lol.

  • Faith

    Hehe, on the first paragraph, forget you read ‘were’ I meant ‘where’ lol.

  • cyrus

    Faith,

    BTW, you forgot to put your trademark “LOL” in your article. haha

  • BEC

    [quote comment="11697"]Hehe, on the first paragraph, forget you read ‘were’ I meant ‘where’ lol.[/quote]

    How can I possibly forget it now? Jeez.

    Good read. Lakers are in a bad situation and they dont seem to have any right pieces to really make an improvement now. The bad thing is we are too good to just rebuild but not good enough to contend. To top it all off the Lakers are on the clock because Kobe is going to decide soon whether hes going or not. From this offseason ive seen only ONE hole in our team filled and thats the backcourt, with the signing of DFish, and that improvement is minimal at best. But thats not even the most important one, no consistent second option to relieve kobe, really not one consistent player other than KB, and we still lack frontcourt depth/talent.

  • Faith

    BEC, just try lol.

    I’m with you on the front court. Incidentally which position do you think we need the most help on, SF, or PF? Currently we’re stacked full of what can only be perceived as mediocre SFs (not counting LO, who I consider a really really good SF, and an ok PF). What makes it worst, is that because we’re so glaringly sad on the front court positions…it becomes kind of like musical chairs with LO (3 or 4), when really he should be playing where he’s best at which is 3 imo. Although theoretically you’d want to be able to move him in the 2 forward positions, to our advantage. But then again, we’re pretty much moving him out of desperation.

    Said musical chairs sort of adds to LO’s inconsistency. There are days where he just doesn’t know where to be, and settles for the bad 3 pointer instead.

    Ronny, imo would make a great PF. Grow faster Ronny!

    P.S. Cyrus indeed I did lol. Well I made up for it afterwards lol.

  • kb24 4life

    So let me see
    Right now at this moment our lineup looks like this:

    D. Fisher
    K. Bryant
    L. Walton
    L. Odom
    C. Mihm( i vote for him instead of bynum)

    Wow great lineup mitch!!!!!!!

  • as1084

    “If this was the team that we started the season off with, I would be fine with it,” Kupchak said. “I feel that we’re an improved team over last year.” – Mitch

    that quote from mitch kupchake seems very planned. i think he made that statement to give the lakers more leverage with the pacers by saying “if we dont get oneal thats fine because we have already improved this summer. if we got oneal its good and if we dont thats ok too. thats my theory on this quote and article. Or……

    Mitch is a moron.

  • BEC

    [quote comment="11703"]BEC, just try lol.

    I’m with you on the front court. Incidentally which position do you think we need the most help on, SF, or PF? Currently we’re stacked full of what can only be perceived as mediocre SFs (not counting LO, who I consider a really really good SF, and an ok PF). What makes it worst, is that because we’re so glaringly sad on the front court positions…it becomes kind of like musical chairs with LO (3 or 4), when really he should be playing where he’s best at which is 3 imo. Although theoretically you’d want to be able to move him in the 2 forward positions, to our advantage. But then again, we’re pretty much moving him out of desperation.

    Said musical chairs sort of adds to LO’s inconsistency. There are days where he just doesn’t know where to be, and settles for the bad 3 pointer instead.

    Ronny, imo would make a great PF. Grow faster Ronny!

    P.S. Cyrus indeed I did lol. Well I made up for it afterwards lol.[/quote]

    Just try??? Im not convinced, its too hard, im scarred for life now.

    I do think we do have a really good SF in Walton 11pts 5reb 4ast, he plays really well with Kobe, greater passer, good shooter 47fg% and 39% 3pt, more than enough, SF starter material IMO, he just lacks experience at the moment. Other than that yeah they all pretty much suck.
    I think LO’s inconsistency has to do more than just playing alongside Kobe and the situation he is in. They just dont seem to have it together and I think its more on the lines that Lamar isnt a consistent second option type of player. I think hes more of the “jack of all trades” kind of guy, someone he can give you all the intangibles, whatever you need him to do that particular night he will do. He doesnt seem the type of player who can do the whole 20/10 every night, which is IMO what we really need. Hes just more of a third option type player. That alone I think will open things up for better defense, especially backcourt defense in stopping dribble penetration (ie Kobe can stop roaming), which in turn improves frontcourt defense (less help defense from dribble penetration), and offensive efficiency. Which will lead to a title. Simple enough Mitch lets make it happen.
    From a position stand point, I think we really lack talent/depth and more importantly experience on the 5 position. We dont have a legit starting C on this squad. Kwame?? Come on. Bynum might get there but we need to win now. Mihm, I really like him can score and play D but its been a year so we’ll see. Other than that we dont have a real center. Phil plays Ronny at center for gods sake. And our 4 position we dont have a legit starting PF if you dont count Lamar, hes more of a 3, Vlad dont think so, Cook we dont need an inconsistent scorer who cant play D, Ronnys great with his energy and heart but hes more of a backup. Our frontcourt is really thin when you look at it, especially when we want to win NOW.
    More important we dont even have one player who can play consistently every night other than Kobe and all we really need is just ONE other than KB. Come on Mitch, just one player.

  • mytree19

    I have to say I really put all the blame on Mitch Kuptchak. I constantly hear that it really isn’t Mitch’s fault whats happening in the front office right now, because Jerry Buss/Jim Buss is really pulling the strings and stopping trades. I firmly disagree with that. As a general manager its Mitch’s responsibility to form a team that is competive and meshes. If it truly is Jim Buss or some other person “up above” that is limiting these trades then Mitch needs to step up and tell whoever it is to let him do his job. If Mitch gets resistance from management then he needs to quit and let the world know its not him that is making these decisions. That way the fans (the real bosses) can put more pressure on the owners to sell the team. BUT if that is really is not the case and Mitch is just sitting on his ass thinking this is a competitive team, we need to fire him. SO either way, Mitch loses his job. And i bet you anything, that is the real reason Jerry West left the Lakers. He knew that the future would require him to become a whipping boy and puppet for the idiot named Jim Buss. Do I think Kobe made the wrong move speaking his mind. Not at all. He actually had the “balls” to stir things up get them off their asses. Did it do anything? I don’t think so. Not with this FO. ANy one else notice that when Chick died things for this franchise has been all downhill. Call it the curse of Chick. or the lack of chick. I think Magic Johnson should become either the full owner or the GM for the lakers. At least then we can have someone who knows how to win. Ok i’ve let that off my chest and I feel somewhat better now. Is Kobe leaving? Man I really hope not. He looked amazing in the USA Basketball team. OH and another thing. People who say he doesn’t involve his teammates and doesn’t pass, you are all idiots because he leads the team in assists per game in both the regular season and the playoffs. Look it up. AND if his teammates had made more than half of the passes from him he would probably average around 6 per game. Yes that includes the Kobe haters on sports radio who actually read these blogs, look it up. You trade Kobe you trade Michael Jordan.

  • gugy

    mytree19,

    you said it all.

    Unfortunately, it seems that the Lakers still need to hit the bottom of the snake pit in order for the Buss family to finally wake up. The problem with that is that by then, Kobe is gone and it will take years to rebuild.

    Sad to be a Lakers fan lately.

  • nba analyst

    Faith….your best line is the one that nobody else dares to comment on…..the plain and simple fact that the Laker FO, due to their own making, have virtually no tradeable assets to acquire the kind of player that the star struck fans demand on this blog. Those who demand that Mitch Kupchak acquire Garnett, Artest and/or Jermaine O’Neal overlook this essential fact. Squealing “do something…bring in just one player” is something my daughters did as adolescents…..adults should behave like that.

    And please, the fans demanding the Buss family sell the team. Good grief….this is a money making organization. What other platform is there in this world where a guy like Jerry Buss can use to pick up women one third his age? If he sells the team, he becomes another 75 year old (albeit rich) schmoe. “I own the Los Angeles Lakers” is one heck of a pickup line, dontcha think? Bottom line….he isn’t going to sell the team based upon internet posts by screaming fans.

  • http://www.lakers.com Ed

    Guys, I just read on ESPN that Juwan Howard from the Timberwolves wants to be traded. Can’t we trade Cook for Howard or something like that?

    Let me know what you guys think. Maybe we can trade for Howard and use him in a trade to the Pacers for JO.

  • D. Imhoff

    Juwan Howard would be good addition for the Lakers and all we have to do is call McHale. There’s that man again!

  • keep24

    Not too long ago, the idea of watching KB running up and down the court, dropping 85 points in a Bulls jersey against the Lakers was as painful as it could get. But, now, after seeing how little Dr. Buss cares about this team I find myself more and more at ease with the idea of KB on another team.

    KB, had he played out his career in LA and won a few more rings, could have easily gone down in history as not only the greatest Laker but also the greatest player to ever play the game.

    A special thanks goes out to Dr. Buss!!!!!!!!!

  • kb24 4life

    Hey i tried to trade juwan howard for cook and it didn’t worked.

    But then i tried to trade jordan farmar and radmanovic and it works.. see what kevin mchale wants this time

  • keep24

    [quote comment="11725"]Hey i tried to trade juwan howard for cook and it didn’t worked.

    But then i tried to trade jordan farmar and radmanovic and it works.. see what kevin mchale wants this time[/quote]

    Trading Radmanovic for Howard is useless – because they are both useless.

    This team needs a difference maker – like Big Shot Bob, in his prime, back in the old days …

    We need to forget about has-been like C. Webb, Howard, PJ Brown and etc. These players were useless in their prime, much less now when their careers are coming to an end.

    LO w/o giving up Odom or Bynum is the only key to save this franchise.

    OR, extend KB’s contract and hope to sign one of the many great free agents that will be coming out next year.

  • mytree19

    I really really really do not like Juwan Howard. So bad i’d keep Brian Cook. Juwan Howard pretty much is Brian Cook so this trade is basically for nothing. Here’s a trade I think the Lakers should pursue between the Pacers and the Kings. And it works on the ESPN TRade machine.

    Outgoing Players for Kings: Shareef Abdur-Rahim, John Salmons, Quincy Douby, Mike Bibby, Ron Artest

    Outgoing Players for Pacers: Jermaine O’Neal, Ike Diogu, Troy Murphy, Jamaal Tinsley

    Outgoing Players for Lakers: Sasha Vujacic, Brian Cook, Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, Kwame Brown

    Kings Recieve:

    Brian Cook
    Salary: $3,500,000 Years Remaining: 2

    Lamar Odom
    Salary: $13,248,596 Years Remaining: 2

    Ike Diogu
    Salary: $2,286,360 Years Remaining: 1

    Troy Murphy
    Salary: $9,206,349 Years Remaining: 4

    Jamaal Tinsley
    Salary: $6,300,000 Years Remaining: 4

    Indiana Receives:

    Sasha Vujacic
    Salary: $1,756,951 Years Remaining: 1

    Shareef Abdur-Rahim
    Salary: $5,800,000 Years Remaining: 3

    Andrew Bynum
    Salary: $2,172,000 Years Remaining: 1

    Mike Bibby
    Salary: $13,500,000 Years Remaining: 2

    Kwame Brown
    Salary: $9,075,000 Years Remaining: 1

    And the Lakers Receive:

    John Salmons
    Salary: $4,752,000 Years Remaining: 4

    Quincy Douby
    Salary: $1,333,920 Years Remaining: 2

    Jermaine O’Neal
    Salary: $19,728,000 Years Remaining: 2

    Ron Artest
    Salary: $7,400,000 Years Remaining: 2

    The Lakers are probably giving up the most here but to get something you need to take a risk.

    The Kings get rid of the Artest problem, Bibby contract and Shareef, but get in return a servicable PG, two PF’s in Semi Allstar Troy Murphy and Young/talented Ike Diogu, an excellent SF in Lamar Odom and great shooter in Brian Cook.

    Team Roster is:

    Lamar Odom F
    Troy Murphy F
    Jamal Tinsley G
    Ike Diogu F/C
    Francisco Garcia F-G
    Spencer Hawes C
    Kevin Martin G
    Brad Miller C
    Mikki Moore C
    Vitaly Potapenko (FA) C-F
    Brian Cook F
    Mustafa Shakur G
    Kenny Thomas F
    Justin Williams
    Corliss Williamson

    Starting Five is:

    PG Jamal Tinsley
    SG Kevin Martin
    SF Lamar Odom
    PF Troy Murphy
    C Brad Miller

    Pacers resolve their issue with Jermaine Oneal and get rid of the large Tinsley contract. So the Roster looks like this:

    Darrell Armstrong G
    Stanko Barac C
    Marquis Daniels G
    Travis Diener G
    Shareef Abdur Raheem F
    Mike Dunleavy F
    Jeff Foster C-F
    Stephen Graham G
    Danny Granger F
    David Harrison C
    Rawle Marshall G-F
    Keith McLeod (FA) G
    Andrew Bynum C
    Kwame Brown F-C
    Sasha Vujacic G
    Andre Owens G
    Kareem Rush G
    Mike Bibby G
    Shawne Williams G

    Starting Five would be:

    PG Mike Bibby/Darrell Armstrong
    SG Marquis Daniels
    SF Danny Granger/Mike Dunleavy
    PF Shareef Abdur Raheem
    C Andrew Bynum/Kwame Brown

    The Lakers receive Jermaine O’neal and Artest. The roster looks like this:

    Jermaine Oneal F-C
    Kobe Bryant G
    Ron Artest F
    John Salmons G
    Javaris Crittenton G
    Maurice Evans G
    Jordan Farmar G
    Derek Fisher G
    Marc Gasol C
    Chris Mihm C-F
    Quincy Douby G
    Vladimir Radmanovic F
    Ronny Turiaf F
    Luke Walton F
    Sun Yue G

    Starting Five :

    PG Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar/Javaris Crittenton/Quincy Doube?
    SG Kobe Bryant/John Salmons/Maurice Evans
    SF Ron Artest/Luke Walton/Vladimir Radmanovic
    PF Jermaine Oneal/Ronny Turiaf
    C Chris Mihm/Marc Gasol??? lol

    Obviously i’m a laker fan but this is a doable scenario. I’ve looked at each situation and I think the Kings come off as the ones that get the worst situation but hey, Artest isn’t doing well for them. And its not very good for the lakers seeing as how the front court is getting thinned out and we are top heavy in the backcourt. But if something like this were to go through and if I were Mitch, i’d then trade for a serviceable Big for one of our gaurds. Anyhow, what do you guys think. Am I reaching? who gives damn if i do. hopefully Mitch reads this and it stirs some GM emotions again from his stoic rock for a brain.

  • mytree19

    OK I’m retooling the starting roster to take care of the Center position better to:

    PG Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar/Javaris Crittenton
    SG Kobe Bryant/John Salmons/Quincy Doube
    SF Luke Walton/Vladimir Radmanovic/Maurice Evans
    PF Ron Artest/Ronny Turiaf
    C Jermaine Oneal/Chris Mihm

    That way we have an excellent Center and a servicable back up C. What do you think? Can Ron hold up against the Western bigs?

  • sirtoken

    [quote comment="11720"]Faith….your best line is the one that nobody else dares to comment on…..the plain and simple fact that the Laker FO, due to their own making, have virtually no tradeable assets to acquire the kind of player that the star struck fans demand on this blog.

    Those who demand that Mitch Kupchak acquire Garnett, Artest and/or Jermaine O’Neal overlook this essential fact.

    Squealing “do something…bring in just one player” is something my daughters did as adolescents…..adults should behave like that.

    And please, the fans demanding the Buss family sell the team. Good grief….this is a money making organization. What other platform is there in this world where a guy like Jerry Buss can use to pick up women one third his age? If he sells the team, he becomes another 75 year old (albeit rich) schmoe. “I own the Los Angeles Lakers” is one heck of a pickup line, dontcha think?

    Bottom line….he isn’t going to sell the team based upon internet posts by screaming fans.[/quote]

    Hi NBA analyst……..i agree with you 100%. Most of the crying on this site is silly. Anyone that has had a business knows it requires patience, luck and actual leverage. I say to wait it out on Oneil, Bird may give him up for less later in the year.

  • keep24

    [quote comment="11731"]OK I’m retooling the starting roster to take care of the Center position better to:

    PG Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar/Javaris Crittenton
    SG Kobe Bryant/John Salmons/Quincy Doube
    SF Luke Walton/Vladimir Radmanovic/Maurice Evans
    PF Ron Artest/Ronny Turiaf
    C Jermaine Oneal/Chris Mihm

    That way we have an excellent Center and a servicable back up C. What do you think? Can Ron hold up against the Western bigs?[/quote]

    Man, I wish I could live in your world.

    Where you live – does it rain Skiddles or M&Ms ???

    They couldn’t even pull off a simple 3 team 4 player trade for Garnett. Do you really think they can pull this off.

    Besides, nothing has changed. NOBODY WANTS TO HELP THE LAKERS OUT.

    THEY WANT THE LAKERS TO LOSE KOBE SO THAT SOMEHOW ONE OF THEM CAN GRAB HIM – AND IN DUE TIME THEY WILL !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • kb24 4life

    well when i said trade vlad. and farmar for j.howard i wanted to use howard as a piece to trade for JO.

    OHH keep24 , why are you so negative??

  • mytree19

    Its chocolate rain… I understand your pessimism keep, but remember one thing about the KG Trade. McHale doesn’t like us. Another thing is, I think McHale knows that you put Kobe and KG on the same team and it doesn’t matter who you have to play the other 3 positions they would be a winning team. Both of those guys demand double/triples teams. I personally think they would be more productive than the Shaq/Kobe duo. I think its completely possible to pull this trade off. It addresses all the teams needs. Minnesota/Laker trade wouldn’t work because, well, we just don’t have enough quality players to beat what Boston had to offer and was willing to give up. Anyhow, give or take a few filler players to satisfy that trade scenario above and I think its a feasible deal if Kuptchak can sell it. I think the problem with Kuptchak is that he tries but he just doesn’t sell it well. I mean look at his freaking press conferences telling us he is happy with the current team. just lame. He’s well trained by the best (J.West) but just is not capable to put together a team that works.