We Are All Lamar Odom

    We Are Lamar

    Thanks to site contributer, Shane Bien for the following article.

    Before many of you run to your bank account to see if your expected 13.5 million dollar salary arrived yet, let me explain. Lamar Odom is an underachiever, and in many ways fans dislike him because he reminds us of ourselves. The majority of people in life are underachievers. Just like Lamar, there was a point in our lives where we were beaming with potential in some aspect or another but we never took the bull by the horns and made the most of our abilities. By underachieving in our life, we look to the Kobe Bryant’s of the world who epitomize excellence and show us what happens when potential and hard work is put together to create something magical. Yet, here we are, lazy underachievers who only work hard enough to get by… just like Lamar Odom does on the court. Think about it. Think about your specialty in life. Have you maximized your potential in your field or have you settled? It’s the same thing with marriage. How many people REALLY end up with the person they want to be with? Every one of us has our ideal mate, but due to the average amount of money you make, lack of physical condition and minimal work ethic, you settle for what you can get. That is Lamar Odom. Lamar Odom is exactly what each and every one of us knows…that we do just enough every day to get by.

    “But Shane, I saw Lamar Odom in the playoffs, especially in Game 5 show a lot of heart… he really showed me something. “

    Stop. Think about it. Put yourself in your situation at school or a job. If you had been slacking off on studying and you had to get ready for a test, what do you do? You cram to get the material in. Same thing at work… if you on the verge of being fired or a deadline rolls around, ALL OF A SUDDEN you have the ability to get everything done and on time! We all amaze ourselves with what we CAN accomplish and always b!tch about those higher up than us at our jobs and say “if I was (enter job title here), I could do a MUCH better job.” That is what Lamar Odom did. He FINALLY played the game of basketball the way he always should and proceeded to rape Shawn Marion for a second straight year.

    Personally, I can’t stand Lamar Odom on the Lakers. Since he is such an underachiever, the foundation of the franchise is weak. When the second best player on our team can’t help produce as many wins as Luke Walton, you have a problem. Lamar is the prototypical player for the new generation, except the problem is it only happens once every 5 games. Its like I’m playing Where’s Waldo, but its Where’s Odumb? Do we REALLY have to put a candy cane shirt on his frame to find his game?! ArrGh!! But seriously, Odumb did give me the laugh of my life when he walked the damn ball inbounds before passing it… haha well back to the topic at hand. As a SF he is bigger than everyone else, yet I STILL am waiting for the day he can actually back down Manu Ginobli. As a PF, he is quicker than everyone else, but God only knows he will blow the layup 60% of the time. Honestly, how in the blue H-E-Double hockey stick does a guy who is 6 feet 10 inches blow SO many layups? Its beyond comprehension. When he goes to the FT line, ALL of us know he’s missing one of two, at least. Oh, and not let us forget how many 3 pointers he jacks up, even with shoulder problems. I swear to you he never makes those {swearing is not permitted at GetGarnett.com} 3’s!!!. His defense is subpar at best. Lamar’s only quality would be the 3rd or 4th option on a team. Just imagine how happy Lamar would be as a 4th option. He’d have 7 assists, 10 rebounds, and 5 points. I can even tell you how he gets those 5 points (2-5 FG, 1-4 FT, 0-3 3FG).

    The best option for the Lakers is to trade Lamar. He has had 3 {swearing is not permitted at GetGarnett.com} years to prove to everyone he is worth keeping around. Just in case there are those that think trading Lamar and Bynum for JO is too much, think again. An injury prone underachiever and the black big Z with less stamina for a 6 time all star. That’s fine with me. With JO and Kobe, the foundation is much stronger. JO would no longer be double teamed and would be an excellent help defender as a 4 with Kwame Brown. Obviously my first option is KG, but sometimes we have to settle.

    Kam Pashai is a co-founder and creative director for LakerNation.com.
    • Abel

      I agree in parts of what you had to say. LO is a phenomenal player when he puts his heart and mind into the game. I am not sure if it is a mental problem or is it the triangle that is keeping him from 30 pts or at least 25 and 15. He is near triple doubles in many games yet the scoring is still average or under in a one man team. He needs to be persistent thats all.

    • http://myspace.com/crunklilgangsta Kenny

      mean

    • Abel

      Overall I think you were too harsh on Lamar. Remember what the guy went through in the beginning of the season when his son passed away. you never heard him complain unlike others.

    • http://gmail.com Mark Caseas

      I agree 100% Lamar Odom is an underachiever. We need to trade Odom for Slava Medvedenko. I will not stop repeating this Slava is the third best player in the NBA. Kobe is the best, Fisher is second best, and Slava comes in a close third.
      GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • RyanFuu09

      Yeah, I dont agree with you Shane. Lamar went through alot this year and if that was any regular player they would probably of missed major time or have trouble playing, for example take a look at fisher, or big z they had problems playing and being at games.. but lamar stayed with it and tried to play his best! LO is real sick, who other person do you know that almost averages a triple double? Kidd?…you could probably count the names. What is comes down to is, Lamar is a GREAT number 3 guy on a team and we are looking for him to be our number 2 guy… I would love to see him stay, but probably wont happen!

    • http://myspace.com/crunklilgangsta Kenny

      exactly i mean this season he had such a good begginning but he had to go through the ituation with his son and it wa sad and u hould how him some respect some thing come b4 baketball

    • Fatty

      After reading your blog, weighing in on all the reasonings you brought out, I came to a careful conclusion and sumation of your post, that was just a load of crap not worth the electronic space it takes on such a fine sight as getgarnett.com

      Next time, start with being honest with yourself in your facts, and then follow that up with some honesty to all us sincere bloggers. You insult all of us.

    • LT4Pre$

      Good article but you’re being too harsh on Lamar. I was at the season opener when he led the Lakers to beat the suns and all of Staples Center chanted his name. At that point I realized how good he could potentially be. He continued to show promise that this would be his breakout year until his injury. I think you would have seen Lamar in an all star jersey had he not been injured. When he finally returned he was putting up relatively good numbers with an injury most players can’t play with at all. That, coupled with his personal troubles, I think it’s understandable how he coulnd’t achieve up to your expectations. That’s why we need a package for JO that doesn’t include Odom. Bynum Radman, Kwame, Farmar, and next year’s pick?

      DFish
      Mamba
      Luuuuke
      Odom
      JO

      Let’s Go

    • Abel

      I totally agree with LT4Pre$. Give Lamar a break and with the wait getting longer on Garnett a package that would bring Jermaine and keeps Lamar is not a bad choice at all.

    • http://www.youtube.com/darkice18 darkice18

      getgarnett.com jus posted the dumbest article everr!~….put some good articles guys come ON!!…LAMAR is a laker…we dont need to read some dumb writers bashing on one of our fellow laker….

    • http://www.myspace.com/boytoy310 coca shayne

      As stated in my article:

      “Lamar’s only quality would be the 3rd or 4th option on a team.”

    • http://www.youtube.com/darkice18 darkice18

      i say we should trade bynum,kwame,sasha,farmar,CASH,and next years pick for JO…

      Fisher/J-Critt/Sun Yue
      Kobe/Mo Evans/Coby Karl
      Luke/Vlade
      Lamar/Ronny/Marc Gasol
      JO/Mihm/Mikki Moore

    • ZMONEY

      I strongly disagree here. Sure there have been many occasions that Lamar hasn’t played to his full capabilities, but this guy gave it all he could last year. His son had just passed away and he sucked it up during the stretch of the season and played with a seriously injured shoulder and knee. C’mon now give the guy a break, he busts his butt out there on the court and has never complained. Lamar tries to inspire the rest of the team and Kobe doesn’t do that too often. I love Kobe, but the truth is Kobe might be the captain of that team, but Lamar is definitely the leader.

    • http://myspace.com/crunklilgangsta Kenny

      [quote comment="7116"]i say we should trade bynum,kwame,sasha,farmar,CASH,and next years pick for JO…

      Fisher/J-Critt/Sun Yue
      Kobe/Mo Evans/Coby Karl
      Luke/Vlade
      Lamar/Ronny/Marc Gasol
      JO/Mihm/Mikki Moore[/quote]

      agreeee!

    • LAalltheway

      Odom is a little soft, and it did seem like he was missing a lot of key free throws. But I don’t remember him bricking too many layups. I was mostly impressed by how well he finishes, and has many and-1 plays when he drives it to the rack. His free throws got better, and his post game has improved. Ginobli can’t guard him on the block. I was one of the first to diss on Lamar when he came to the Lakers, but he’s played pretty well. He is a tradeable asset, but we’ll be missing out on a good player.

    • Faith

      Sometimes the truth hurts…the problem is this isn’t the full truth. Sorry to say. I appreciate the moxie at which you can say it, I even appreciate the thoroughness…but LO is not all you say.

      Yes he has a tendency to underachieve, but before his injury the man was showing us a side of him we haven’t seen before.

      You can argue that we’d be better off with JO (I think so too), but that is no reason to drag a good man down. In the first place, it lowers his trade value (lol), in the second place, it demeans what he has done this season. The man played through very, very painful injury. And has come to play, not because he’s cramming, but because he’s starting to show that he’s a winner. Winners come to play when it’s most crucial (usually), Kobe is a winner and he has always excelled during crunch time and the playoffs (usually when his knees aren’t shot)…I believe Kobe has imparted that “winning” and “tough” philosophy to a previously soft, ridiculously inconsistent LO.

    • http://myspace.com/crunklilgangsta Kenny

      i think ut vlade in the trade and ign jalen rose instead

    • gspence001

      this article is completely true! Odom could be a star player in the NBA if thats what he really put his mind to.

    • gspence001

      KG & KB Baby!

    • gspence001

      [quote comment="7116"]i say we should trade bynum,kwame,sasha,farmar,CASH,and next years pick for JO…

      Fisher/J-Critt/Sun Yue
      Kobe/Mo Evans/Coby Karl
      Luke/Vlade
      Lamar/Ronny/Marc Gasol
      JO/Mihm/Mikki Moore[/quote]
      i would agree with u if it was anywhere close to being realistic

    • http://myspace.com/crunklilgangsta Kenny

      wat r u talking about?? lamar had a great first 25 games and he got injuries and you say put hi mind to it well his son jut died im pretty ure he had is mind on that ur dumb

    • http://www.getgarnett.com Fred A.

      Lamar Odom is a great player!!!!! Who is ever saying this
      is being mean to him. The fact is Kobe needs more help at a bigger mans position and a vet point guard. It not the players fualt it is the GM’s fualt. The GM is basically the ones who need to acheive more for the team. But I do agree that LO sort of not playing at his full abillity.

    • KBisDarthVader

      not fair at all.

      obvioulsy, lamar hasnt proven he can be the #2 guy on an elite squad. but his numbers are still impressive, and more importantly than the numbers, he is a good teammate.
      your right: we would probably be better with JO as the second option…but how much better? enough to satisfy your role model kobe? don’t count on it.

      i think its funny that you mention how we should “look to the Kobe Bryant’s of the world who epitomize excellence and show us what happens when potential and hard work is put together to create something magical.” true, kobe’s hard work and dedication to his craft have made him the best. but how ironic that you characterize bryant as “creating something magical.” i guess it is somewhat magical to make a 350 pound hall of famer and a 9 time champion coach disappear from an organization in one off-season…but if you want real magic, think about guys like number 32. when pat riley told magic he wanted him to step up and take control of the team, magics response was “did you ask kareem?” on the other hand, kobe opted out of his contract early to make sure we would ship shaq and phil out. as we come to find out, kobe putting the organization and its fans in sh@#$y situations is something he is quite good at.

      Kobe, as good at he is at doing anything he wants with the basketball, has failed, consistently, at something that is very important in team sports: being a teammate. for all lamar’s deficiencies on the court, ask the people he’s played with over his career, and they’ll tell you he is a good teammate. i cant ever see him pulling even half of the selfish ish kobe has put us fans through. thats why i can still wear my odom jersey with pride, whereas i am seriously ashamed to don KB’s jersies (and i have a closet full of them). at least odom wants to be a laker and is not trying to jump ship and leave us adrift in the stormy waters. for all his on-court greatness, kobe is basically a selfish punk who told us all to go f$#% ourselves by demanding a trade, trashing our organization, and putting us in a terribley weakened barganing position.

      maybe lamar has to go. but i refuse to trash a man who has been a solid player, a great teammate, and a dedicated Laker. thats more than I can say about your boy Black Mamba

    • kb24.com

      dumbest article ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • JAY

      EVERYONE EAVE LAMAR ODOM ALONE HE’S THE SHIT, DONT YOU REMEBER WHEN HE FIRST ARRIVED IN LA ON THE OTHER TEAM THOSE DAYS THEY WILL BE BACK. HE HAD TRAGEDY IN HIS LIFE THEN GOT MUGGED. LEAVE HIM ALONE. THE LAST GAME AGAINST THE SUNS WAS A SIGN OF THINGS TO COME. TRADE BYNUM, FARMAR, COOK FOR JO. PACERS WILL BE DESPERATE. THEY GET TWO YOUNG BRIGHT PLAYERS AND A BIG WHO CAN SHOOT N IS ALSO YOUNG

    • http://www.youtube.com/darkice18 darkice18

      [quote comment="7113"]getgarnett.com jus posted the dumbest article everr!~….put some good articles guys come ON!!…LAMAR is a laker…we dont need to read some dumb writers bashing on one of our fellow laker….[/quote]

    • http://myspace.com/crunklilgangsta Kenny

      KBiDathvader,

      Lamar a true Laker????

      if u condider 3 years

      and any laker fan that talks bad about kobe or want him traded basically is saying let it out for the next 5-6 years …

    • shortdiezel

      You have some great points.. but I also put a lot of the blame on the coaching staff.. Lamar can be a huge contributor if is he is in the POST.. He needs to hit the gym this off season and get some muscle.. he is not consistent from the outside.. we need him down below grabbing rebounds and making easy plays

    • BringDFishBack

      There is one huge differnece between lamar being an underachiever and people like us being one. $$$$$. Lamar does it and gets paid 13.5 mil. When you get paid that kind of $$$, you have to work hard to be your best. However, if you’re not getting paid that, why does it matter? You’re getting paid for what you are doing. Meanwhile Lamar gets paid because he could do it.

    • http://www.getgarnett.com Fred A.

      OH GREAT!!!!!! If the FISH signs on, that would solve half the problem. We really do not need KG at this point because they are asking to much for him. All we need is find out how we should get JO without giving up Odom. That is the other half of the problem. If we do this it would be:
      Fisher
      Bryant
      Odom
      JO
      Mihm
      This would be good enough for this year.
      That so when KG opts out next year it would look like this:
      Fisher
      Bryant
      Odom
      JO
      KG
      Mission accomplished!!!!!! This would be good enough to
      optain the KOBE!!!!!!!!

    • laker8nate24

      harsh dude…i dont see u n the nba…odom is the man, ill b sad if we trade him…lakers r a very legit team with the current linep when healthy, altho i dont think we can win the championship with this lineup

    • http://myspace.com/crunklilgangsta Kenny

      lol kg lo kobe JO same team???? that 80 mil right there in ur dreams

    • lafanfromindiana

      I’m from Northwest Indiana, about 30 minutes from Chicago, and I would just like to say that I have been a die hard Lakers fan for most of my life. My friends use to give me so much shit when I was rooting for the Lakers during the Championship series against the Bulls since everyone around here are Chicago sports fans. I’m the only one around here that loves Kobe but I don’t care. He’s the greatest! Period.

      Anyways, I have been more addicted to this site than other people are addicted to myspace. I am on it everyday and refresh the page probably 500 times a day hoping to see some great breaking news. I also read every comment that all my fellow Laker brothers write.

      Finally, I just created my account. Guess what finally prompted me? THIS STUPID ASS ARTICLE! WHY ARE WE BASHING OUR 2ND BEST PLAYER ON OUR TEAM WHEN WE KNOW THAT HE IS KEY IN ANY BIG TRADE THAT WE MAY PULL OFF? WOULDN’T IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO TALK GOOD ABOUT OUR PLAYERS RATHER THAN BAD? IF ANYONE IMPORTANT IS READING OUR COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS…..DON’T YOU THINK BASHING ODOM AND POINTING OUT THE BADS ABOUT OUR PLAYERS ONLY DROPS THEIR TRADE VALUE? MAYBE NOT SIGNIFICANTLY BUT MAYBE IF SOME GM IS READING THIS MAYBE IT MAKES THEM 2ND GUESS. Lets talk good about our players especially the ones that are important to future trades!

      Anyways….if there is going to be a trade it will be Odom and Bynum for JO and then the Lakers are going to give Pippen and Jalen Rose the rest of the mle (what is left after we sign Fisher) and veteran minimum somehow between the 2 of them. Call it stupid or crazy but look what we have done with keeping Aaron Mckie on our squad these last few years.

    • http://www.vivathegame.com VIVA THE GAME | Dating tips

      Yeah. Now that would be a dream team. Kevin, Kobe and Jermaine. I can only dream. That would be the team to beat for years.

    • Rhom Dale

      Bynum, Kwame, Radman, Sasha 08 1st rounder for JO & Troy Murphey

      PG – Fisher, Farmar
      SG – Kobe, Java, Coby Karl [sign]
      SF – Luke, Mo Evans
      PF – Odom, Cook, Turiaf
      C – JO, Mikki Moore [sign], Troy Murphey

    • mR.beaSt

      geez people. KG and LO are bonafide PFs, and JO actually played more like a SF last season with all his jump shots. putting JO against Amare or KG against Dwight would be ugly, so just keep them as PFs for their sake.

    • dlakerfanforlife

      http://www.pe.com/sports/basketball/breakout/stories/PE_Sports_Local_D_nba_spl_12.41202ee.html

      On a different note

      When he looked over the NBA basketball landscape in his quest to land a job, Coby Karl saw something he liked with the Lakers.

      The team was in need of another guard, in need of a big guard, in need of a combo guard and in need of a guard who is smart and can shoot the basketball.

      With that in mind, Karl joined the Lakers’ entry in the NBA Summer League as a free agent.

      Karl admitted that it didn’t hurt that his dad, Denver Nuggets coach George Karl, is good friends with Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak.

      Both Kupchak and Karl played basketball at North Carolina and the Tar Heel family has been known to take care of its own.

      But Coby has been impressive, scoring 10 points in 27 minutes in his first game and 23 points in his second game.

      He had six of his 12 points in the fourth quarter and five rebounds in the Lakers’ 81-73 win over the Portland Trail Blazers on Wednesday night at Thomas & Mack Center.

      “I knew the Lakers’ coaching staff liked bigger guards that are able to pass,” Karl said. “And then the triangle offense, I think is good for me because you have to make reads and play angles.”

      Karl, a 6-foot, 4-inch guard from Boise State, has done enough work in the summer league for the Lakers to seriously think about bringing him to training camp in October.

    • I love the Lakers

      Everyone who is comparing his personal life to his performance is comparing apples and oranges. Yes! we all feel for him for what he has gone through. But what about the other 2 years that he did not go through that? What was his reason for under performing those years? I completely agree with this article. I am sure that Lamar is a great person and that we all feel bad for what he has gone through but that has nothing to do with the overall point of this article. Ask yourselves, is he an under achiever in the game of basketball?

    • mR.beaSt

      LO is an UNDERACHIEVER? don’t you remember that he was the #1 guy when he played for the Heat? and when Heat were in the playoffs, he was their undisputed leader and a very good one at that. with this type of attitude y’all can’t even begin to understand this guy. he plays for this team through injuries and pain and loss after loss, not because he has to, but because he’s a TEAM PLAYER. easy to call him mediocre after you saw how our win/loss record plumetted after he was injured. he was the glue that held this team together, not Luke. sure, trade him for whoever, but don’t disrespect this guy and go as far as to insult him with ‘Odumb’ and crap. if you want to say something, say it, but your insults for a highly respected player shows what a loser and piece of crap you are. maybe you made this article to take your mind off of your own sucky life. get a day job

    • Faith

      Please someone convince me Coby Karl is not the next Smush Parker. As I recall he outplayed others in Summer League…that’s how he got in our team. I’m really scared that he might be, irrational and scared. Someone tell me Coby Karl will not be the next Smush Parker, please!

      Can he play D?

    • mR.beaSt

      Coby Karl=garbage

      we already have SGs and SFs, so tough luck kid

    • Fatty

      Faith

      Some GM’s are thinking coby shouldv’e been a late 1st rounder. I saw him play all three games, hes a player. He might not make our roster unless a trade happens, but other teams like him as well.

      He has great hustle. He followed up a Critt miss that others gave up on and jammed it home. This kid is like walton, smart, shoots very well, plays good team D. He is interesting.

    • Sep08

      Very idiotic post. Basketball is not life and it should never replace the most important things in life such as family and health.The poor guy lost his son and you call him an underachiever, even though he had an all-star type season before his injury. He had a very hurt shoulder and he still played in the playoffs, where as most players would sit out and get paid. Lamar is a great player but he needs a true center in order to be effective in the lakers.

    • http://hzmdesigns.com hZm

      [quote comment="7152"]LO is an UNDERACHIEVER? don’t you remember that he was the #1 guy when he played for the Heat? and when Heat were in the playoffs, he was their undisputed leader and a very good one at that. with this type of attitude y’all can’t even begin to understand this guy. he plays for this team through injuries and pain and loss after loss, not because he has to, but because he’s a TEAM PLAYER. easy to call him mediocre after you saw how our win/loss record plumetted after he was injured. he was the glue that held this team together, not Luke. sure, trade him for whoever, but don’t disrespect this guy and go as far as to insult him with ‘Odumb’ and crap. if you want to say something, say it, but your insults for a highly respected player shows what a loser and piece of crap you are. maybe you made this article to take your mind off of your own sucky life. get a day job[/quote]

      Okay, so he was Miami’s #1 player, he’s not playing like a bonafide 2nd option with this team. That is underachieving my friend.

    • Big D

      Dude are you friggen kidding me???

      “Yet, here we are, lazy underachievers who only work hard enough to get by… just like Lamar Odom does on the court.”

      First off, while I can not speak for all of GG.com, do NOT call me an underachiever. I work my a$$ off every day and will continue to do so until I retire early. If that is the way you choose to live your life, then so be it, but never assume the rest of us are like you!

      Second, do you think Odom just woke up one day and said ‘hmmm…let me see, I haven’t done my laundry in awhile and my house is a mess…what to do; what to do? I KNOW! I think I’ll be an NBA star!’ The answer: HELL NO. You gotta pay your dues.

      Third, the man both went through hell emotionally and physically this year so I think he deserves JUST A LITTLE SLACK.

      Fourth, I have said this before and I’ll say it again: STATISTICALLY SPEAKING (which isn’t everything), Lamar is the 30th (one above JO!) most efficient player in the league even with all the $hit that happened to him this year.

      “It’s the same thing with marriage. How many people REALLY end up with the person they want to be with? Every one of us has our ideal mate, but due to the average amount of money you make, lack of physical condition and minimal work ethic, you settle for what you can get.”

      Again, are you friggen kidding me with this? Personally I love my wife and would die for her if needed. And how the #$#@ do you know how much money I make, or my physical condition, work ethic, etc??? You don’t, so stop assuming things about other people.

      “When the second best player on our team can’t help produce as many wins as Luke Walton, you have a problem. Lamar is the prototypical player for the new generation, except the problem is it only happens once every 5 games.”

      Where the hell are you getting this from? Last time I checked there are five players on the court at a given time. You win and loose as a team. Just because a team gets more wins with a player out doesn’t mean squat!

      “Lamar’s only quality would be the 3rd or 4th option on a team.”

      Totally asinine statement here…nuf said.

      Perhaps if you replace Odom with Kwame, I might have bought your story a bit more.

      But I am pretty sure I speak for most of the board when I say go practice your writing and “analysis” somewhere else and stop wasting our time with this b.s.

    • mR.beaSt

      you people at getgarnett.com should never have allowed a post like this to be put up on this website.
      1st off, this post sucks balls
      2nd off, it really has nothing to do with getting KG and is just bashing a player
      3rd off, this whole…’story’ is completely 1-sided. you should actually read crap before putting it up

    • kobeownsU

      Layoff, Lamar. even though it doesnt appear that he is trying as hard as people may like, he is a professional and professionals want to be the best at there profession no matter what it is, if that wasnt the case nobody would play the game.

    • Brandon

      I agree with some of the things you say about Lamar. His effort is mediocre at best, and he is way too inconsistant. But when he plays the way he he is capable of, he is a force. Not one person (other than KG and maybe STAT) can guard this guy. He is a good rebounder, better on the defensive boards then the offensive and a decent defender. He is also one of the most versatile players in the league. He was playing all star basketball until he got injured and i think that he will continue his strong play next season. The Lakers have to keep this guys if they do not get KG.

    • http://hzmdesigns.com hZm

      [quote comment="7161"]you people at getgarnett.com should never have allowed a post like this to be put up on this website.
      1st off, this post sucks balls
      2nd off, it really has nothing to do with getting KG and is just bashing a player
      3rd off, this whole…’story’ is completely 1-sided. you should actually read crap before putting it up[/quote]

      I don’t know how long you’ve been checking out the site but we do more then just talk about Garnett. If you think its one sided you have the option to comment back and give your opinion. (which a lot of people are doing).

      And yes, this was read before it was put up.

    • mR.beaSt

      hZm, tell me this. did Odom HAVE to play through his hyperexrended elbow, injured knee, and hurting ankle during the playoffs? during the season, couldn’t he have sat out for several games he WILLINGLY came in for despite his pain? you people are morons. if he wanted, Odom could have sat out much more games this past season and still get his fat paycheck and made this team end up with a losing record and without a playoff spot. and no, i’m not an underachiever in any sense of the word. i don’t know about the author of this article, but i’m not

    • http://hzmdesigns.com hZm

      [quote comment="7165"]hZm, tell me this. did Odom HAVE to play through his hyperexrended elbow, injured knee, and hurting ankle during the playoffs? during the season, couldn’t he have sat out for several games he WILLINGLY came in for despite his pain? you people are morons. if he wanted, Odom could have sat out much more games this past season and still get his fat paycheck and made this team end up with a losing record and without a playoff spot. and no, i’m not an underachiever in any sense of the word. i don’t know about the author of this article, but i’m not[/quote]

      He did not have to play, but obviously he was capable of playing. I love Lamar for playing through it too.

      Nevermind this past season, Lamar has 3 seasons under his belt with this team… I’ve yet to see him reach his potential with this team. It pains me to see it too because I’m a Lamar fan.

    • mR.beaSt

      i don’t want to start anything with anyone on this site right now, so i’m backing off. but posts like this really piss me off. dissing Odom because you’re bored is lame. i enjoy this site that’s made exclusively for Lakers fans, but if you’re a true fan you would focus more on a player’s positives than obsess over their faults

    • http://hzmdesigns.com hZm

      [quote comment="7167"]i don’t want to start anything with anyone on this site right now, so i’m backing off. but posts like this really piss me off. dissing Odom because you’re bored is lame. i enjoy this site that’s made exclusively for Lakers fans, but if you’re a true fan you would focus more on a player’s positives than obsess over their faults[/quote]

      In times like these we can’t just focus on a players positives, we have to look at the whole package. This team is stuck in a rut and this is probably one of the most important off-seasons in team history. As fans we have the right to vice our opinions, good or bad. This is our product too.

    • tj

      LO is a solid number 3 option. The problem is the Lakers have tried to make him the number 2 option. Add Kobe, Artest, and Odom and there you go. The main problem with the Lakers is Kwame Brown, and Lo, they play with no fire. Kwame must go, LO must go, give me, KG, or Artest, JO, and Fish and the Lakers rise to a higher level.

    • k0be da 1 andonly

      [quote comment="7100"]I agree 100% Lamar Odom is an underachiever. We need to trade Odom for Slava Medvedenko. I will not stop repeating this Slava is the third best player in the NBA. Kobe is the best, Fisher is second best, and Slava comes in a close third.
      GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

      ………………………….WTF have u been smokin

    • marky

      lamar and ron harper will be the only clppers I will ever like. Oh well, pull the damn trigger mitch….getgarnett!

    • lakerfan81

      The problem is not lack of effort (though sometimes it does seem that way) the problem is that LAmar is asked to play out of position and is not utilized properly. Lamar is easily one of the best passing forwards in the league (he has the 3rd highest assist ratio among PF in the league). However the Lakers try to utilize him as a post threat which he is not. Odom needs the ball in his hands to be effective. He is much more effective when he is used as a point-forward running the offense, which is not how he is used (for the most part) on the Lakers.

      The reason he is not effective is that he looks lost when playing with Kobe. That is why his best games come when Kobe is not playing. But at the beginning of the year, before all the injuries which completely hobbled the team and any chemistry they were building, it looked as if he was finally learning how to play with Kobe. Before everyone got injured the Lakers were the best passing team in the NBA, mostly due to Walton and Odom.

      The Lakers problem was not inconsistency in scoring by Odom the problem was a lack of defense. This falls on the team as a whole. First and foremost this is the problem that needs to be addressed. Having a defensive presence in the post will help dramatically,this is where JO will help. He is one of the best interior defenders in the league. However, he is not a great offensive player. Right now he averages 19 pts/g. I do not think that number will go up if he plays in LA where the offense will not be ran through him like it is in Indiana. So if there is a way to get JO without giving up LO why not try to do it. I am not sure why they want LO so badly anyways if they are completely rebuilding. It makes much more sense for them to take expiring contracts. I’m not saying that the lakers should do a trade that revolves around Bynum and Kwame because it would leave them to thin up front. But neither do I think they should do a LO bynum whatever else they were asking for for JO. Maybe a LO, Bynum, Cook, Farmar (you could throw in Vlad instead of cook and farmar if IND would take it), for JO and Foster. That would be fair. Foster is a good defender and great rebounder. That is the only way I would trade both LO and Bynum for JO.

    • lakerfan81

      If you did my above proposed trade, then Mihm would be expendable. He could be used in a sign and trade to aquire another SF or PG such as Duhon. Chicago might go for that because they could then use their MLE on another player.

    • Faith

      Fatty,

      That’s the thing…the guy looks good now…but I’m scared we’ll sign him, give him the starting spot…and he’ll be Cookie (if Cookie can pass)! Actually I saw him play just a tiny little bit…and he did remind me of Cookie lol. He’s got smarts I’ll give you that. But let’s not forget that what we need most on this team is defense and rebounding. And I haven’t seen much of that from him. Unfortunately I haven’t seen it in any of our summer league bigs either.

      RE: LO. LO has been in the league for awhile now, and the man still doesn’t have an offhand, and an offmove. Opponents can literally stand on the paint and predict where he’s going (that’s why he gets a lot of charges). However, he is no less valuable, and no less worthy of being a Laker, to us. We have a lot of players on this team that fits this topic, but I think LO (of late) fits it least.

    • klao

      here’s Jason Kidd (today):

      http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/LOSANGELES-CA/KLAC-AM/070712 Loose Cannons Hour 2.mp3?CPROG=PCAST&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&NG_FORMAT=sports&SITE_ID=727&STATION_ID=KLAC-AM&PCAST_AUTHOR=AM570_KLAC&PCAST_CAT=Arts_and_Entertainment&PCAST_TITLE=AM570_KLAC_SHOWS

      you think Kobe would be happy or mad at the Lakers when he listens to Jason say that he would’ve loved to be a LAKER?

    • Keep Lamar

      omfg lamar is the second best player on the team…. he was there wen he didnt have to be he had a hyperextened arm sprained ankle not to mention HIS SON DIED! lamar has heart and and played for us when he didnt have to. and yet you say he is an underachiever! and u post a article putting down the lakers second best player…. what kind of laker fan are you

    • rockafella

      this guy thinks he knows everything… put urself in odom’s shoes when he lost a son and through the injury. so what if hes not 100%. he still there at every game he can to help the lakers. if u just lost a son and went through 2 injuries i think u would be sitting at home cryin like a little girl. odumb? ur pathetic

    • Berger

      SHUT UP dumb ass…you obviously dont know shit about basketball..Lamar Odom is the most versatile player at his size. Lamar is un-guardable and to want to trade a 6’10 player who can crossover his opponents and step back and drop the three is just completely stupid..explain to me how well he should play with a torn ligment in his shoulder, sprained ankle, and arthritis in his knee…the fact that he decided not to have surgery and played through the pain for that long shows that he cares and wants to play…”blows the layup 60%of the time”? probably the most B.S statistic I have ever heard. If your gonna make an argument at least use real facts to support your conclusion. His infant son died right before the start of the season and he still came to play for us. Your a B**ch and I am shocked and ashamed that HZM posted this article on this site.

    • THeGreatOnekb&kg

      Lamar is a great player who picks his spots on the court. After all this man has been thru, fans should be happy with what he brings to the floor ever night, we have no idea whats going thru his head. I appreciate what he did this year. THanx Odom.

    • mR.beaSt

      [quote comment="7168"][quote comment="7167"]i don’t want to start anything with anyone on this site right now, so i’m backing off. but posts like this really piss me off. dissing Odom because you’re bored is lame. i enjoy this site that’s made exclusively for Lakers fans, but if you’re a true fan you would focus more on a player’s positives than obsess over their faults[/quote]

      In times like these we can’t just focus on a players positives, we have to look at the whole package. This team is stuck in a rut and this is probably one of the most important off-seasons in team history. As fans we have the right to vice our opinions, good or bad. This is our product too.[/quote]

      it doesn’t mean we bash them by calling them names like ‘Odumb.’ saying we should trade a player is 1 thing, but calling them names is a totally different story

    • Berger

      Honestly HZM and Nugget you guys need to remove that article before more true fans log in to see this crap

    • KEEP LO7!

      lamar is a underrated player and he should be appreciated more often because of what he does on the floor for everyone..HE makes everyones job easier!! KOBE even said in one interview that lamar even does more stuff then him?! yes you hurrd it right there was an interview where he said that..lamar is a ligit PASSER and scorer! HE OWNED SHAWN MARION! and can beat bigger sized players off the dribble! I GOT A QUESTION!! WHY DOESNT THE LAKERS RUN A PICK AND ROLL OFFENSE WITH LAMAR AND KOBE!?! you have kobe who is just impossible to stop because hes absolutely the best player..and you have lamar setting the pick able to roll and finish strong if kobe is doubled! i mean i havent seeen that play yet and maybe they shouldve tried it because it would prob been a lot easier for the both of them! and i mean lamar was injured hes has a rough year i mean give him a break and put yourself in his position..hes giving everything hes got out there..HE WANTS TO BE A LAKER!! name a big who flirts with a triple double?! other than kidd and MAYBE lebron theres no one else?! i say keep lamar.. but if he goes which i mean its just me saying to stay but he’ll probably go then we BETTER GET KG! NO LESS THAN THAT!!

    • MOIST

      ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT PEOPLE, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE ALL COMING FROM ABOUT THE DEATH OF HIS CHILD, THAT IS SOMETHING I CANNOT IMAGINE TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH. WHAT I CANT UNDERSTAND IS HOW YOU GUYS FORGET THE SEASONS PRIOR TO THIS TRAGEDY. YOU CAN’T GIVE HIM ANY EXCUSES. THIS IS BASKETBALL, THIS IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF BASKETBALL IN A CITY KNOWN FOR DOMINANCE. ESPECIALLY AT HIS POSITION. THE REASON THERE IS BEEF FROM SHANE AND MYSELF IS WE ALL KNOW HOW GOOD HE CAN BE WHEN HE APPLIES HIMSELF, IF KOBE MUST BE CONSISTANT IN LA SO DOES THE NUMBER 2 . ODOM IS ALOT MORE THEN A PLAYER HE IS A PLAYER PLAYING WITH THE BEST PLAYER IN THE GAME TODAY. HE HAS TO SHOW SOME HEART AND DISPLAY HIS TALENT ON A MORE CONSISTANT BASIS, IF U PLAY BALL AT A HIGH LEVEL, OR EVEN IF YOU DONT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN U DONT PRODUCE, EXCUSES EQUAL WEAKNESS DONT GIVE HIM ANY, IF HE WANTS TO START AND HE WANTS RESPECT HE MUST DO WHAT WE ALL KNOW HE CAN DO VERY WELL AND THATS DESTROY ALL MATCHUPS BROUGHT IN FRONT OF HIM, HE CANT TAKE PLAYS OFF GAMES OFF, WE NEED HIM TO BE THE GREAT PLAYER HE IS AND PRODUCE. IF THAT WAS THE CASE KG WOULDNT EVEN BE CONSIDERED KOBE MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE CONFIDENT COMING INTO NEXT SEASON ABOUT HIS SUPPORTING CAST AND OF COURSE LA WOULD BE A BETTER TEAM, WE NEED U ODOM! PRODUCE OR MOVE ON!

    • http://www.lakerfreak.homestead.com lakerfreak

      Lamar has better numbers than JO and higher precentages playing in the west and shooting all those 3s and Andrew Bynum has better numbers after 2 years then JO had after his first 4 or 5 years Bynum is young and plays through pain and although Odom gets hurt alot he plays through pain and JO is injury prone and sits out either we get garnett, gasol or stick with what we have JO isnt worth Bynum OR Odom both players will end their careers achieving more then JO

    • lakers

      I really do think all it takes is KB&LO for a championship but these two need to start playing together cause tell me who can stop kobe and who can really guard odom at his best and with the addition of fisher and luke we should be back in te playoffs contending for titles

      and another thing LO is a better player than O’neal if we get him we better trade bynum and kwame or farmar for him and I better see

      Fisher
      Kobe
      Luke
      Odom
      O’neal

    • Jimmy M.

      That was a load of shit. Does anyone need some online blogger to Dr. Phil us?

      Lamar Odom has dealt with issues in his life recently. Granted, he’s a professional, and he’s expected to deal with it but as a previous poster pointed out, Lamar was having stellar performances during the early part of the season, so let’s not insult him as a being and say he isn’t trying. In all honesty, I believe had Lakers not sustained so many injuries, we would have a #4 or #5 seed, and maybe even win.

    • Justin M.

      Man, everyone except for a select few look like they suck when there playing next to Kobe Bryant, Take the ALL-STAR game for example, T-Mac looked like crap next to Kobe, but is T-Mac crap, No he’s not and neither is Lamar Odom. Please take that post down. Lamar needs more repect then this espeacially from a “Lakers FAN site”.

    • tj

      [quote comment="7181"]SHUT UP dumb ass…you obviously dont know shit about basketball..Lamar Odom is the most versatile player at his size. Lamar is un-guardable and to want to trade a 6’10 player who can crossover his opponents and step back and drop the three is just completely stupid..explain to me how well he should play with a torn ligment in his shoulder, sprained ankle, and arthritis in his knee…the fact that he decided not to have surgery and played through the pain for that long shows that he cares and wants to play…”blows the layup 60%of the time”? probably the most B.S statistic I have ever heard. If your gonna make an argument at least use real facts to support your conclusion. His infant son died right before the start of the season and he still came to play for us. Your a B**ch and I am shocked and ashamed that HZM posted this article on this site.[/quote]

      THIS IS THE BIG ISSUE WITH LO….HE gets hurt too much, We need players that can play a whole season…LO is too injury prone…Knees, shoulder(twice)..etc. Mihims the Same screw signing mihms, he can’t complete a season either…you guys have to take this in to account. We need ARtest and KG, these guys don’t get these type of injures.

    • dub-quad

      YEAH I FEEL WHAT YOU SAYIN, BUT THAT’S SOME F’ED UP JOURNALISM, TOTALLY BIASED AND NOT FACTUAL. DID YOU SEE HOW CONSISTENT HE WAS BEFORE THE INJURY? I MEAN HE IS WHAT HE IS, A VERSATILE WINGMAN WHO SHOULD BE PLAYING SF BUT PLAYS PF DUE TO LACK OF LAKERS SIZE, CAPABLE OF A TRIPLE DOUBLE EVERY NIGHT, YOU CANT EXPECT HIM TO GET 30 PTS WITH KOBE SHOOTIN ALL THE TIME. TRUE SOMETIMES HIS HEADS NOT IN THE GAME, BUT WHEN HES FOCUSED, HE COMES TO PLAY. LEADS THE TEAM IN BOARDS, ASSISTS, AND IS 2ND IN POINTS. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT ???

    • Ted

      No one is being too harsh on Lamar. This guy sucks. I feel sorry he had bad things happen to him, but this is basketball and this guy sucks bad. For all you Odom sympathizers’ who want to make excuses for him tell me why he didn’t come though last year. I’ll tell you he has no heart and he sucks plain and simple

    • Ted

      Tj just because someone can cross over a defender doesn’t make them a good player. By the way those threes you talk about him shooting, you forgot to mention a couple of things. First he misses about 80 percent of those threes you are talking about. He never jumps to try and block shoots, all he does is sticks his hands in the air. He NEVER tries to block shoots. I’m sorry he sucks plain and simple. Trade this no heart, none shooting, supposedly cross over king out of the league. He sucks

    • magic32

      I WATCHED EVERY LAKER GAME THIS SEASON AND LAMARS BEEN GREAT. HE JUST NEED TO TAKE MORE SHOTS WHICH HE WAS DOING BEFORE HIS INJURIES. AND IF LAKERS WOULD HAVE HELPED LAMAR BEAT THE SUNS IN GAME 4 WHEN HE WAS GETTING THE CROWD INTO IT THEN MAYBE THEY COULD HAVE GOT TO THE SECOND ROUND. SO FUCK YOU SHANE.

    • Fatty

      Hzm

      “And yes, this was read before it was put up.”

      The most dissapointing statement I read today.

      As editor, blog master, and moderator, you have a moral right and obligation to uphold your duty to the integrity of the blog. You let us all down today. I have nothing more to say.

    • Big D

      Well said Fatty!

      Negative statements should be backed up by facts.

      And half of this post is bashing the gg.com readers for being lazy, etc.

      Junk!

    • http://twitter.com/nugge7 The Nugget

      [quote comment="7267"]Hzm

      “And yes, this was read before it was put up.”

      The most dissapointing statement I read today.

      As editor, blog master, and moderator, you have a moral right and obligation to uphold your duty to the integrity of the blog. You let us all down today. I have nothing more to say.[/quote]
      WOW! You make it sound like hZm failed the United States. It’s just an article from a blog, man. Chill.

      If you don’t like what Shane had to say, leave him an e-mail or say something about it on the comments but don’t shoot the messenger. We created GetGarnett.com to inform the fans while giving them the privilege to write their own stuff. We love to share both sides of every argument, that is the reason why we posted a counter article earlier today.

      Feel free to retort back to Shane with your own article, if you must. But don’t tell us how to run our blog.

      - Nugget

    • http://www.getgarnett.com Fred A.

      Come on people you know that LO is way to small to play pf and JO is way to small to play center. It would look ugly on the inside and they will dunk all over us.

    • Justin M.

      [quote comment="7294"][quote comment="7267"]Hzm

      “And yes, this was read before it was put up.”

      The most dissapointing statement I read today.

      As editor, blog master, and moderator, you have a moral right and obligation to uphold your duty to the integrity of the blog. You let us all down today. I have nothing more to say.[/quote]
      WOW! You make it sound like hZm failed the United States. It’s just an article from a blog, man. Chill.

      If you don’t like what Shane had to say, leave him an e-mail or say something about it on the comments but don’t shoot the messenger. We created GetGarnett.com to inform the fans while giving them the privilege to write their own stuff. We love to share both sides of every argument, that is the reason why we posted a counter article earlier today.

      Feel free to retort back to Shane with your own article, if you must. But don’t tell us how to run our blog.

      - Nugget[/quote]
      Not to be rude, but without us your blog would be nothing.

    • http://hzmdesigns.com hZm

      Thats true Justin.

      Thanks for backing me up Nugg. Guys, this isn’t a big deal. We do our best to balance everything on here, one reason we jumped at the chance to post the piece Cyrus sent us.

    • Big D

      Nugget, Hzm,

      I believe what people are trying to say (and I know this is how I feel) is that this particular article took things too far by

      1) Bashing Odom without providing any facts to back it up and calling him names (which is childish).

      2) More importantly, he made it personal by saying we are lazy underachievers who can’t find a decent significant other. I don’t think many took this too seriously, but it is rude in any case.

      The second post on Odom today was monumentally better by the way. Had this author decided to conclude his blog by suggesting we would be better off without Odom, I would not have been upset at all.

      Finally, Justin M. makes a great point.

      Until today, I have thought the GG staff has done a fantastic job in keeping the site interesting, fun, mostly clean, and mostly positive. You have also removed a few “pests” and deserve applause in doing so. (It’s easy to criticize, but you guys do deserve tremendous credit as well!)

      Peace,

      Big D

    • http://hzmdesigns.com hZm

      [quote comment="7354"]Nugget, Hzm,

      I believe what people are trying to say (and I know this is how I feel) is that this particular article took things too far by

      1) Bashing Odom without providing any facts to back it up and calling him names (which is childish).

      2) More importantly, he made it personal by saying we are lazy underachievers who can’t find a decent significant other. I don’t think many took this too seriously, but it is rude in any case.

      The second post on Odom today was monumentally better by the way. Had this author decided to conclude his blog by suggesting we would be better off without Odom, I would not have been upset at all.

      Finally, Justin M. makes a great point.

      Until today, I have thought the GG staff has done a fantastic job in keeping the site interesting, fun, mostly clean, and mostly positive. You have also removed a few “pests” and deserve applause in doing so. (It’s easy to criticize, but you guys do deserve tremendous credit as well!)

      Peace,

      Big D[/quote]

      I can understand where you’re coming from D. Personally, those didn’t bother me because I didn’t take those seriously. But if members here have a problem with it I’ll try to prevent things like that in the future.

      On a side note… I’m a Lamar fan and I like the article. I don’t take any offense to what Shane had to say either. The article made chuckle a few times too.

    • bryan

      really bad take. lamar is a walking tripple double. it was his year before the injuries piled up and he still played through it. you’re the DUMB one.

    • http://www.myspace.com/l8kers_qt kb24chick

      Wow! Tell us how you really feel Shane!! lmao

    • LA1st

      Wow, I mean come on, Lamar gone through alot, injuries:mental and physical. He needs a break, and maybe keeping him on the lakers will show him we need him more than he needs us.