UPDATE: Lakers have until Friday afternoon to match Turiaf’s offer; haven’t yet

UPDATE: Time is running out for the Lakers. Will they match Turiaf’s offer? If the rumors are true (Artest) they still need a big if Ronny leaves. Will this change their decisions on that matter? Let’s all stay tuned:

LakersBlog: The clock is ticking…

Less than 48 hours remain before the Lakers either match the four-year, $17 million offer Ronny Turiaf got from the Golden State Warriors or let him walk. Team officials had seven days from when they first received the offer sheet to decide.

The Lakers need to notify Turiaf and/or his agent by Friday afternoon of their intentions, and as of 4 p.m. Wednesday there wasn’t anything to announce.

“No decision yet,” agent Mark Bartelstein said in an email.

“Nothing to report,” said Lakers spokesman John Black.

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RealGM
: Ronny Turiaf’s deal is structured in a “slightly frontloaded” manner, according to agent Mark Bartelstein, which will make matching the deal even more problematic for the Lakers.

Assuming Turiaf’s salary for next season is around $5 million, the Lakers would effectively be paying $10 million for a backup who would receive limited playing time behind Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

Bartelstein said the Lakers have not given him any indication on whether they will match the Warriors’ offer, which includes a player option for the fourth year. Under the rules of the NBA’s collective bargaining agreement, the Los Angeles Lakers have seven days (through Thursday, July 17) to match the Warriors’ offer.

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RealGM
: The Golden State Warriors have signed restricted free agent forward Ronny Turiaf to an offer sheet, Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations Chris Mullin announced today. Per team policy, terms of the offer sheet were not announced.

Under the rules of the NBA’s collective bargaining agreement, the Los Angeles Lakers have seven days (through Thursday, July 17) to match the Warriors’ offer.

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I honestly don’t see the Lakers matching the offer. If they don’t, Turiaf will be a Warrior – although we here in Los Angeles already knew he was just that. Very fitting. We love you Ronny wherever you end up…

Press Enterprise: Lakers forward-center Ronny Turiaf agreed to a four-year, $17 million offer from the Golden State Warriors, according to two league sources. Turiaf is a restricted free agent. The Lakers have seven days to match the Warriors’ offer.

Also, the Warriors are set to sign Maggette as well. The L.A. Times says Mags contract is worth 50 million

In Maggette, 28, the Warriors acquired a player they have had their eye on for some time. He joins guard Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson in the Warriors backcourt, making up one of the highest-scoring perimeter trios in the league.

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  • http://myspace.com/thaonlyrhom RD

    through thick and thin, Ronny is a LAKER 4 LIFE! he overcame heart surgery and came back to come play for us. he started to become a key role player this past season. and his energy on the bench will NEVER be forgotten. wherever you go, ronny, LA will always have love for u!

    -RD

  • marloveslakers24

    bye ronny.

  • http://myspace.com/thaonlyrhom RD

    bye bye ronny. hello kurt thomas?…

  • mrjustinoh

    yeah, definitely don’t see the lakers matching that one..

  • lakers4life

    peace ronny

  • yash

    NOOOOO Ronny how you gonna leave the team wit the best bench that inccludes u and other good playas and how could you the best player in the nba. Your teammates and the coaching staff have made you better. IDK wat to say. You cant leave tat, you might even win a ring nxt yr wit Bynum back(hopefully). In the words of a garbage guy band, in N’sync’s words “Bye Bye Bye”

  • PGMVP

    Bye Ronny, LOL welcome back kwame????? hahahahaha but if turiaf leaves i think we will have to say hello to Kurt Thomas

  • dawg09

    BYE RONNY
    THANK YOU RONNY!
    THANK YOU RONNY!
    THANK YOU RONNY!

  • laker-nate

    would never have guessed he’d take money over a shot at the title…soooo stupid…i loved ronny, but this kinda pisses me off…

  • pio2u

    Ronny will forever be a Laker & he has always been a warrior! Good luck to him & God bless!

  • Nabil

    While we’ll all miss the hell out of Ronnie and feel bad every time he rejects a Laker’s shot, I’m super happy for him! He worked super hard for this opportunity and he deserves every penny. :)
    Congrate Ronnie! We love you!!!

  • Kobe8>24

    oh no man, NO..

  • Diehardfan

    Wow! I am not worried about the loss of Ronny. If the Lakers match that offer it would be the stupidest mistake since Luke’s contract. As much as I love Turiaf while he WAS a Laker who cares that he is gone. Good luck to him..but we have to try and sign better players.

  • lakaluva

    You will always get cheers at STAPLES Ronny. We know where your heart remains.

  • BigPC

    Oh NO! Well for now it’s in the hands of Mitch and the Bball Gods! After getting to the Finals with a major piece missing, maybe Rony would want to stick around to get that Ring! G.S.? Come on! .500 at best!

  • DCLAKER

    No matter what,RONNY WILL ALWAYS BE APART OF LAKERNATION….but I pray he stays ’cause he a one-of-a-kind.

  • matej

    maybe sign kwame now for about 1,5 milion

  • laker-nate

    apparently ronny needs brain surgery as well 4 leaving a contender 2 play with scrubs 4 more money…

  • T.A.

    Behind Kobe…..

    RONNY IS MY FAVORITE LAKER!!!

    Ronny IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE A LAKER NO MATTER WHAT TEAM HE PLAYS FOR

  • http://mrsfox411@aol.com FOXXY

    WHAT!!!! RONNY LEAVING LAKERLAND????? I DONT BELIEVE IT!!! HE RONN…WHATS UP BUDD…YOU GOTTA STAY WITH YOUR BRAND OF BRTHA CALLED THE LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • lakerschamps08

    noooo well that sucks.. thanks ronny for all that u done.. but once u leave for more money that tells me u dont care bout winnin or ur teammates… so thanks and bye… and another player takin money instead of a chance to win the title… and so much for all that crap mitch bout sasha and ronny come first, all that bah blah blah blah…

  • ricky

    this sucks. now our depth on the bench just weakend big time with him leaving. i didnt see this coming, ronny was such a good team player and he leaves just like that. im surprised he didnt decide to give it another shot at the title. most young players want to get money first now and by the time they are 30-someting, they struggle to find a team willing to sign them so they can sit on the bench and say they finally won a championship but did close to nothing to earn it. i like ronny, his energy, passion, and blocking shots. however, im now worried that there are no more bigs out there to help us out. our front court is weak now that we have no PF off the bench. dang it!!

  • ab4sure

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    Ronny would be stupid not to take this money. He is young and is looking for fin. security and every nba player his age would do the same thing. Welcome to the Real World. I think you need brain surgery.

  • xtro

    Au revoir Ronny! Allo Kurt Thomas? Sacrebleau!

  • http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStories.asp?lc=NBA&c=1&TEAM_ID=&PLAYER_ID=&hd=20080630#STORY_9810 lakers-r-pimpilicous

    dam you golden state, Kurt Thomas is way to old remember the confrence finals against san antonio

    we need to get varego, the cavs drafted robin lopez so they’re gonna be shoppin him, this trade should work
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2419~549~2027&teams=13~5~5&te=&cash=

  • Lakerdude

    This will weaken our bench big time, I hope the money is worth than an NBA title, Golden state is a long way off from winning it all espeacially with the loss of Baron of Davis

  • Daryl Imhoff

    If the Lakers match the offer for Ronny that money does not affect the MLE money. However, if they sign Kurt Thomas it will count against the MLE. If the Lakers plan to bring in Posey or someone of similar quality they would be better off matching the offer. Anyway you look at it it’s expensive. Either of the two types of money will be into the luxory tax, so for every dollar they spend it will cost 2 dollars.

  • ab4sure

    Kurt Thomas gets a rebound every 3minutes(great) and a very good post defender… NOT SOFT… put him next to bynum and you have a great defensive frontline.

  • http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStories.asp?lc=NBA&c=1&TEAM_ID=&PLAYER_ID=&hd=20080630#STORY_9810 lakers-r-pimpilicous

    get anderson varego and jj redick
    almost clones of ronny and sasha

  • LakersFirst

    This is a smart move by Golden St. They need a power forward, they now have money and they know the Lakers first want to sign is Sasha before Turiaf.

    If the Lakers don’t match this offer (never say never), perhaps they should take a look at Charlie Villanueva. Obviously they would have to trade to get him. He’s set to make $3.4M to $4.6M next season (qualifying offer next season). Villaneuva is a 6’11 power forward and Milwaukee supposedly wants to get rid of him. He’s not as good of a defender as Turiaf (although Turiaf is foul proned), but he might make a nice back up to Pao.

    Ironically enough offering Mihm and his expiring $2.6M would be enough (don’t know if Miwaukee would go for it because of Mihm’s injury-plagued last 2 years), but if Milwaukee wants to get rid of him like Villaneuva like they said they did a month ago. Basically if Milwaukee did want to accept Mihm (big IF), they would just be shedding salary (probably trade for Mihm and then buy him out).

    Varajao would be a good player to get. The problem with him is that he is more expensive at $5.7M this coming year and over $6 the following year.

    Kurt Thomas would be an excellent back up if Turiaf left, however, from what I’ve read he wants to stay in San Antonio.

    I don’t think the Lakers can sit around and wait on Sasha to see if he gets more offers. They should make a final offer to him and begin looking for other power forwards in the event that they don’t want to match Turiaf

  • kPoAbUe

    wow. golden state look at u. u guys lost Davis now ur getting corey which is worth like 8mill give him 10mll a year. turiaf is ok he deserves 4.5mill. i serously dont care abt him let him go he kinda pisses me off too. At least when we lose these guys Lakers get some veteran experience.

  • LakersFirst

    This is a smart move by Golden St. They need a power forward, they now have money and they know the Lakers first want to sign is Sasha before Turiaf.

    If the Lakers don’t match this offer (never say never), perhaps they should take a look at Charlie Villanueva. Obviously they would have to trade to get him. He’s set to make $3.4M to $4.6M next season (qualifying offer next season). Villaneuva is a 6′11 power forward and Milwaukee supposedly wants to get rid of him. He’s not as good of a defender as Turiaf (although Turiaf is foul proned), but he might make a nice back up to Pao.

    Ironically enough offering Mihm and his expiring $2.6M would be enough (don’t know if Miwaukee would go for it because of Mihm’s injury-plagued last 2 years), but if Milwaukee wants to get rid of Villaneuva like they said they did a month ago, they may do it. If Milwaukee did want to accept Mihm (big IF), they would just be doing so to shed salary (probably trade for Mihm and then buy him out).

    Varajao would be a good player to get. The problem with him is that he is more expensive at $5.7M this coming year and over $6 the following year.

    Kurt Thomas would be an excellent back up if Turiaf left, however, from what I’ve read he wants to stay in San Antonio.

    Lasty, the Lakers may want to look at Sean William of NJ (6’11 PF) who is a great shot blocker (no offense, but good shot blocker). He is set to make $1.6M this year but not sure if NJ would want to trade him. NJ is stacked at the PF position with Yi (he played the 4 at times with Milwaukee), Sean Williams and Stromile Swift.

    I don’t think the Lakers can sit around and wait on Sasha to see if he gets more offers. They should make a final offer to him and begin looking for other power forwards in the event that they don’t want to match Turiaf.

  • http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStories.asp?lc=NBA&c=1&TEAM_ID=&PLAYER_ID=&hd=20080630#STORY_9810 lakers-r-pimpilicous

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    THOMAS IS RUNS SLOWER THEN MY GRANDPA, AND I THINK HES SHOOTS BETTER THEN HIM NOW

    GET VAREGO
    GET REDICK

    IF RONNY WANTS TO LEAVE LAKER LAND, LET HIM WALK SAMETHING WITH SASHA

  • eric

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    im not sure but i dont think he has a choice. does he? i dont know if a team offers more its up to the lakers to match it right? im not sure, correct me if im wrong

  • MILO

    you cant replace ronnys defense with K-Thomas c’mon match the offer Mitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://deleted kb4sure

    what is happening if lakers doesn’t get a caliber player that should be maggette plus losing player like turiaf w/c is close to kobe and lakers lose again in the finals there is no way kobe will stay.and when that happen they have to start again in the beginning and look for another kobe and rebuild for another 3-5 years,mitch the time is now do it now!

  • T-Dub

    Holla AT CHA A-S-S! LATER! PEACE! Now lets sign some PROVEN NBA, USA TALENT!

  • Mileslee

    We have to re-sign Bynum so we will not match that offer Ronny will be missed one of the best role players we ever had I sad role players don’t get it twisted we’ll see about Sasha now

  • S-quire

    Ugh, I really did not think this would happen. I don’t blame the guy…but the era of love for Ronny is DONE. He is on another team, no love. Oh, and DCLaker is not gonna be happy to hear that the magic are offering their full MLE for Pietrus.

  • John Barry Sux

    Hey all this buy Ronnie hello Kurt Thomas talk is just retarded to me. What most of you fail to realize is that Ronnie is still growing as a basketball player. In other words the Ronnie we see next season will be better than the one we saw this season and so on and so forth. In the same mold that Derek Fisher or an AC Green improved over the years so will Ronnie Turiaf. Plus he is such a glue guy around the locker room, one of Kobes favorite players on the team. THERE IS A REASON GOLDEN STATE IS WILLING TO PAY HIM THAT MUCH! I think the Lakers will match this offer, it doesnt count against their MLE money and they were expecting to have to increase both Sasha and Ronnies contracts anyways. I am disappointed in you Laker fans saying Bye Ronnie (as Mark Jackson would say your better than that).

  • gugy

    Congrats Ronny.
    Good luck to you.

    It’s all about money, honey.

    Hopefully the Lakers will land somebody as good and as energetic to replace him.

  • MT

    Well….thanks Ronny for your time in LA. Put yourself in Ronny’s position position, there’s no way that you can turn down this deal at an AVERAGE of $4.25 mill versus LA’s offer at what…about $1 mill to $2 mill? So congrats Ronny and best of luck.

  • D Lo

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    of course he does. he chooses to sign the offer sheet offered by the other team. for instance, he could have signed lets say a 3 year 9 million dollar contract with lets say, boston, instead of the golden state contract if boston was offering such a contract.

    or even better he could have accepted whatever the lakers wanted to give him and never signed an offer sheet with anyone else.

  • D Lo

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    not true. thomas could sign on for the veterans minimum or the BAE if he so desired.

    but yeah you’re right, i think enough teams are gonna want him that it’ll need to be more than the minimum. either that or he loves san antonio so much he’ll come back for peanuts.

  • PRICELESS

    we love you ronny! Ill miss you! but i understand the biz aspect of it. good luck!

  • http://myspace.com/sonicussj Whatsa

    Since we lost Turiaf.. lets get Maggette. But who the hell is going to be our back up center/power forward? Hopefully Mihm steps it up..

    Love you Ronny, you always brang a positive attitude. Your dances were hilarious and just kept everyone smiling. I loved your defense(especially your blocks), and your offense when Kobe would fake driving it in but instead passing it to you.

    Later dawg. Have fun being a Warrior. Good luck.

  • pr0mega

    Mags is a warrior too, Whatsa.

  • ICE CREAM MAN

    Why does everyone say “he rather take the money than a championship”. Put it this way…If you guys worked for a company that payed $15/hr but had the chance to win the company of the year title, or a company that pays $120/hr but will probably not make the playoff for the company of the year. What will you guys do?

    I will go for the money because when it’s all said and done I need money to pay loans off, somehow I don’t think showing off a “Company of the year” trophy will delete my balance due.

    Ronny worked hard for us and gave it his all every time he stepped on the court. He deserves his increase if not with the lakers then with another team.

    Good Luck Ronny

  • Fantastic5LAL

    Brandon Bass (Limited Salary Protection)
    Kwame Brown
    Ryan Gomes
    Kurt Thomas
    Dikembe Mutumbo
    Carl Landry
    Patrick O Bryant
    PJ Brown
    David Harrison
    Paul Davis
    Nick Fazekas
    Chris Richard
    Lorenzen Wright
    Primoz Brezec
    Francisco Elson
    Undrafted Free agent

    Just some names

    the names on top are the one’s id prefer

  • kb24bestever

    Damn come on mitch lets match that he is worth it if u gave luke that amout than why not give it to a man that leaves his heart on the court..
    come on mitch get this done am telling u he is worth it.

  • DCLAKER

    S-quire,HELL NO I P’OED RIGHT NOW!MITCH YOU MOTHERF……sike,I’m just kidding but I’m over it(as a tear runs down my eye while grindin’ my teeth)…so since I’ve moved on…I’M GOIN’ TO CONTINUE WITH MY ABSURD TRADE BARKING AND WILL CONTINUE TO FIND PLAYERS WHO OUR SYSTEM…for starters…

    Vlad for Keyon Dooling and JJ Redick(just my opinion)?

  • kaynam24

    if he leaves n signs i dont blame him…. hes been a laker for how long now?? n making less than a milli… its time for him to get his…. get your money…. playa

  • Dante

    Actually the Suns drafted Robin Lopez. sorry [Comment ID #44197 Will Be Quoted Here]

  • Michael24

    ronny we will miss you good luck to you there and we love you

    you will always be a laker in your big heart

    thank you

  • LakersFirst

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    What you fail to understand is that Golden State is overpaying for Turiaf and the Lakers already have massive contracts such as Kobe, Pau, and Bynum’s future extension.

    Kurt Thomas, a proven veteran and solid player, would most likely come at a cheaper price than Turiaf.

    Varajao would be a good acqusition but his contract is even more expensive at $5.7M this coming year and over $6 the following year.

    Here is something else that I read. The NY Knicks are interested in trading David Lee. David Lee is a simlar type of player as Turiaf and is set to make $1.7M next season. Would the NY be willing to trade him to L.A.? I know it may not sound like much but someone may be willing to take Mihm and his expiring contract ($2.6M) just for the sheer fact of shedding salary. NY, being a team that is way over the luxury cap may find anything to help them shed salary as a plus.

  • Kent

    How bout we match golden state’s offer of Ronny and do a sign and trade with the warriors? This way, we can get something back in return…

  • DCLAKER

    I like David Lee..but what if Mitch could pursuade them to throw in Jamal Crawford(or Nate Nobinson).

  • http://thelakersnation.com kb24 4life

    c´mon mitch
    you cant let go the player with the biggest heart
    in the NBA just like this…
    i know is a lot of money…
    but please keep himm..

  • http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStories.asp?lc=NBA&c=1&TEAM_ID=&PLAYER_ID=&hd=20080630#STORY_9810 lakers-r-pimpilicous

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    A guy that i think is very underated and that nobody mentioned is Josh Childress, this boy is bad and hes only 25, he went to stanford so hes a cali kid, we could sign him easy
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2373

  • e

    turiaf was great but i wont lie, he disappointed me during the playoffs, so i dont see the lakers matching this offer..nonetheless i thank him for everything he’s done for us, great chemistry guy and the bench will be whole lot quiet without him

  • Big Nick

    Ronny, you will be missed my man. Now lets trade Odom for Artest, sign sasha, and sign a solid, big veteran (kurt thomas). Sad day for Lakersnation :(

  • lskerfan567

    DONT SIGN KURT THOMAS, Then you guys are goin to have a hissy fit when you red this and post why thomas is the best player ever like you guys usually do

    Thomas doesnt do anything anymore, theres a reason he didnt get any mimutes in san antonio

  • mike

    i wish u the best ronny !!!!!!!!!!!! nth but luv

  • lskerfan567

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    you are right bout sean williams

    THOMAS STILL RUNS SLOWER THEN MY GRANDPA

  • DCLAKER

    A 3 way trade,check it:Magic,Lakers and Mil.

    Vlad to Magic

    B.Cook to Mil.

    ….and Laker get JJ Redick and Charlie Villanueva.

  • PeanutButterSpread

    ugh. I’m gonna miss Ronny’s energy. Great guy, best of luck to him.

    Kobe’s going to not like this. He and Ronny are tight buds.

  • DCLAKER

    Diop back to Dallas,damn.

  • BringDFishBack

    They have to match. They are already way over the salary cap so it’s not like this will have much of an effect on that. It’s only $1 mil more per year than everyone wanted them to give him. And honestly, when was the last time you heard someone with a $4 million contract had a bad contract? There are much bigger things to worry about. $4 million is not a whole lot.

  • VoiceofReason

    Wish Ronny the best. I’d love to have him back but he needs to do whats best for him.

  • S-quire

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    You might be right, the price tag is still relatively reasonable. If Ronny can get consistent with that jumper then he’ll be even more valuable. On the other hand, who knows, maybe he’s close to the ceiling… I’d like to get Nick Collison.

  • lskerfan567

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    THIS A BS TRADE NEVER WILL HAPPEN (I DO LOVE IT THOE)

  • lskerfan567

    [Comment ID #44256 Will Be Quoted Here]

    dclaker how bout this
    sign and trade for josh childress, we would trade luke and karl

  • yellowpurplefever

    Lakers is not gonna match that. Ronny deserves it, he needs to get the max now. Bon chance! Ronny. I think Mitch is deperately trying to trade V-lady to get another PF. Fluke has a weak excuse cuz of ankle problems and his dad is Bill. James Jones shshsh…keet it low key

  • DCLAKER

    I don’t even know what to say…..

  • dracul

    If they can keep vujajic for the 2.7 million offer they gave him, and match Ronnie’s at 4 million, you still end up in good shape, since you’re only spending 6.7 million on these two, compare that to the 6.5 million we’re paying Glitch to be useless.

  • John Barry Sux

    I say you have to resign him…. and then trim other salaries on your roster. Phoenix traded kurt thomas to the sonics two years ago for salary space. Why cant do the same with either Luke Walton or Vlad?

  • yellowpurplefever

    Man, James Jones inked with Miami. We are stuck with the same guys for opening night. Nobody wants to trade with Lakers. At the SF we have too many , won’t have minutes to offer to new players. Gotta get rid of V-lady or Fluke some how!!

  • LakersFirst

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    When a team like the Lakers is over the luxury cap, then every player they sign is in reality double the price. For example, if they were to match the $4M/year deal, for the Lakers that would be equivalent to paying $8M for Turiaf because the luxury tax is a dollar for dollar tax.

  • Dante
  • killo15

    damn i hope we match it but i doubt it. i love ronny on the lakers. he was the heart of the bench mob. he IS a true warrior. thank you ronny. we should shoot for carl landry if we do lose ronny. he’s young, he hustles, is an underrated defender, and he has potential. he may not have dance moves and may be missing a tooth but he can be pretty good. also we should go for posey i would love to see him in a laker jersey.

  • almostchamp

    DAMN RONNY NOOOOOO
    LUKE OR VLAD BUT NOT RONNY!!!!!!!\

    WELL WHATEVER WHO IS AVAILABLE ?????
    KURT? MMMM I PREFER RONNY
    MUTOMBO HAHAHHAHA JUST KIDDIN
    KWAMBA HAHHAHAH ONLY IF ITS FOR 2 MILLIONS
    MMMMM WELL I THINK IF THE LAKERS WANT TO KICK ASSES NEXT SEASON
    GET RID OF
    LUKE WALTON, VLAD RAD, MIHM, WELL AND NOW (RONNY I HOPE TO SEE HIM NEXT YEAR) MMMMMAYBEEEEEEEEE WE SHOULD GET A PIETRUS AND ANOTHER BADDASSS CENTER OR PF LIKE IF A MIRACLE HAPPENS MEGGETTE GETTIN RID OF LUKE VLAD AND MIHM ITS ENOUGH MONEY TO GET THE NIGHTMARE ON FEET

  • BringDFishBack

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    Trust me dude when it comes to this I know what I am talking about. In reality, they are going to be paying someone here. So whether it’s Turiaf or not, they will be paying someone. On top of that, it was assumed he would be offered about $3 mil. So this is $1 mil more, or if you want to take into account luxury tax, then $2 mil. 2 mil compared to their roster that they are paying like $80 mil? That’s nothing. You’re not going to find someone who fits as well as him, and you won’t find someone who even comes close at this price. When we compare it to the price he was expected to be offered, it’s a lot. But in reality, it’s not. Compare it to the rest of the league. Varejao is making nearly $6 mil, he’s probably the closest match to Turiaf. He’d be the 7th highest paid player on the Lakers, and that is with Bynum and Farmar still on their rookie contract. Can we honestly say he isn’t in the top 9 on the team? Fish/Kobe/Odom/Pau/Bynum/Farmar/Ariza/Luke. That’s 8. Is there another player who is worth more to the team? I certainly don’t think Vlady, Mihm, or Coby Karl are worth more than Ronny. Note: I am not counting Sasha because if he were to resign he would be higher than Ronny, thus making Ronny #10.

    The thing we have to consider is compared to what we thought we’d have to pay is lower, but compared to what players in the NBA make these days, it is not a lot.

  • DCLAKER

    Appreciate it Ickerfan567(that would be a COOL hip hop name)and Dante.

    …and Dante,I like that trade for Josh Childress too but I kinda down right now ’cause Ronny is leavin’,DAMN!

  • varsityoptimism

    not gone yet… the lakers have a week to match the offer

  • lakerferlife7

    hes not even a warrior yet..all we know is they offered him the contract which is way to much for someone who hasnt proven shiiit….hes not worth it….were was he in the finals!!!!!!!

  • http://www.otrbasketball.com/ lakersfan17

    adios ronny. :(

  • ab4sure

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    Just becuz u did one bad contract doesn’t mean you should make another overpaid contract.

  • LakersFirst

    [Comment ID #44418 Will Be Quoted Here]

    It doesn’t sound like you know what you’re talking about to me.

    Of course they will end up paying someone, but you’re neglecting the fact that Turiaf was offered $17M over 4 years (keyword YEARS, the length of the contract is an issue), not to mention Turiaf is super foul-proned and didn’t really contribute during the Playoffs (and you want to pay $4M per year for that – $17M over 4 years for that?). You also say that $2M is nothing to throw away, but you fail to see that it’s not $2M for JUST ONE YEAR, it’s $2M for a possibly multiple years. I’m also glad you’re willing to throw away $2M, but remember, the Lakers organization is a business (be realistic).

    I don’t know where you read it was assumed Turiaf would be offered at least $3M per year by the Lakers. All the Lakers extended was their their tender offer. If Turiaf was such an important player, they would’ve made an immediate offer for extension, but nowhere was it said they offered anything more than the qualifying offer.

    You also forget that there is a player named David Lee on the NY Knicks that is a very similar energy player to Turiaf, not to mention he only makes $1.6M. In previous posts, I already mentioned other PF’s in the league that are cheaper. Players like Kurt Thomas (a solid proven player), Charlie Villaneuva (he’s not making $4M/year and the Bucks said a month ago they wanted to get rid of him) and I mentiond Sean Williams from the NJ Nets (great defender, but not too good on the offensive end).

    With the Lakers having Kobe on their roster (and most likely extending him – he could opt-out next year and then has 2 years left after that, an extension is most likely coming), Pau for another 3 years (and possible resign) and Bynum for whoever knows how long (possibly max contract at $80M over 5 years), not to mention Ariza is a free agent next year and LO’s a free agent next year (both unrestricted) the timing of Turiaf’s contract extension was just a bad time. In addition to the $4M/year for Turiaf, the length of Turiaf’s contract is a problem.

    Turiaf remaining on the Lakers has nothing to do with where his importance on the team is. It has to do with what the Lakers are valuing his services at. When you look at his production, his value was worth a Brian Cook-like contract, which was $10.5M over 3 years (maybe $12M over 4 years), but $17M over 4 years is overpaying, which becuase of the salary and luxury cap restrictions the Lakers cannot really afford to do (remember their a sports organization, their not f’n Microsoft).

  • lakers4life
  • DCLAKER

    This is the reason Lakers can’t get a “dead snake out of a mongoose’s mouth”(HUH!),we have too many players(LO,Vlad and Luke)with contracts that they can’t live up to.

    Lo is a sometimer(though I wouldn’t trade except for J-SMOOV or S.’The Matrix’Marion {C.Butler),ONLY).

    Luke gets a contract worth…TOO DAMN MUCH and I haven’t seen since…his rookie season(notice we loss 2 IN A ROW with’em,HE’S BAD LUCK).

    Vlad …..Vlad is…hmmmm….STRAIGHT GARBAGE,he has a shot and the buck stops there.I’d rather take my chances with JJ Redick at this them this BUM!

  • DCLAKER

    Too many contracts that certain players can’t live up to(LO,Luke and Vlad),Mitch is being WAAAAAAAAY too nice.time to cut the cord(except LO but only if he takes a paycut off that BIG ‘tract of his or GETTHEMATRIX).

  • freddy b

    I DON’T SEE ANY PF/C OUT THERE THAT CAN BRING WHAT RONNY BRINGS TO THE TABLE FOR LESS MONEY…I THINK RONNY IS WORTH IT (4 MILL) THE LAKERS IS A BIG MARKET TEAM (MAYBE THE BIGGEST) SEVERAL TEAMS ARE OVER THE CAP AND NO WHERE CLOSE TO GETTING A CHAMPIONSHIP.THE LAKERS CAN AFFORD RONNY, AT 4 MILLION HE’S NOT OVER PAID.

    YES WE HAVE SOME PLAYERS ON THE TEAM THAT ARE OVER PAID AND MITCH SHOULD MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO CURE THOSE ILLS HOWEVER YOU DON’T DO THAT BY GIVING YOUR VALUABLE ASSESTS AWAY.RONNY IS A BIG MAN THAT CAN PLAY CENTER OR PF, HUSTLES, REBOUND, BLOCK SHOTS, DEFENSE, COACHABLE,YOUNG, PHYSICAL AND HE’S GOING TO GET BETTER…BRINGING IN ANOTHER ROLE PLAYER TO REPLACE RONNY, YOU’D NEVER KNOW HOW THAT WILL WORK OUT (KURT THOMAS) PLUS HE’S OLD.PLUS THERES NO MUCH ELSE THAT’S OUT THERE.

    MIHM = OVERPAID
    LUKE = OVERPAID
    RADMANOVIC= OVERPAID

    RONNNY= MONEY WELL SPENT

    WE HAVE TOO MANY SF WHO HAVE THE SAME SKILL LEVEL AND CAN’T DEFEND THAT’S OUR PROBLEM, NOT RONNY.

    KEEP RONNY …ADD POSEY…LET SASHA GO!!!

  • BringDFishBack

    [Comment ID #44435 Will Be Quoted Here]

    Sasha didn’t contribute during the playoffs, but they are still looking at resignign him. Odom didn’t but still pay him. Bynum didn’t, but still looking at an extension. Hardly anyone contributed in the playoffs, especially the bench guys who got limited minutes.

    Your right, it is only 2 million this year. Where you’re wrong is that it will be 2 mil all 4 years. Odom’s contract is up next season and they won’t be in the luxury tax after that, so really they are paying the 2 mil extra for just 1 season.

    Where did I read that it was expected he would get about $3 mil per season? Uh everyone, that was the general assumption. Heck, YOU EVEN SAID IT AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR POST.

    Your sentence on having Kobe, Pau, Bynum, and FAs in Odom and Ariza doesn’t even make sense. And all I read in it was “possible” over and over. This is here and now. Until that happens, it’s a non-issue. And you don’t give someone with 3 years left on their max contract an extension.

    I didn’t forget about Lee. I chose to leave out the players who are still on their rookie contract, such as Lee and Millsap, because it’s not a fair arguement. They were given that amount by the league.

    And you’re right, they’re a sports organization and not microsoft. But you must realize this: they are currently playing roughly 80 million based on their salaries. So paying an extra 2 million than they were planning on spending is nothing. 2 million compared to 80. That’s nothing. 2 million compared to 20 i can see. Even compared to 40 or 60, but they are spending 80 million.

    They are either going to pay Turiaf this 4 mil or get someone else, maybe being able to get someone for $3. But you won’t find someone who knows the Lakers offense and defense, fits in as well as turiaf, has the respect of all the lakers teammates and fans, has the playoff experience does, or plays with the energy Turiaf does for anywhere close to $4 mil.

  • KobeBryantistheMan

    Check the OC Register. Mitch Kupchak just said that he has not yet been notified of the Ronnie Turiaf offer from the Warriors. He also states that Andrew Bynum is not officially cleared as of yet. He was vague on what their plans are.

  • jimbraddock

    bye ronny hope to see you again in a purple and gold.

  • LakersFirst

    [Comment ID #44456 Will Be Quoted Here]

    I don’t think the Lakers should overpay for Sasha either. The rumor was Houston offered him $30M over 5 years, I think that would be overpaying for him. Odom is under contract so the Lakers are stuck with him unless they trade him. I don’t think the Lakers will trade LO because the want him for the same reasons teams want him – Salary Cap Relief. They are talking about giving Bynum an extension because 1) 7’1 centers are rare 2) In January, Bynum was averaging 17 pts, 13 boards and 3 blocks a game.

    You are wrong when you say the Lakers won’t be in the luxury tax after next year. Yes, LO’s contract is off the books after next season, but odds are, the following (09/10) season, Bynum’s double digit salary will hit, thus replacing LO’s double digit salary. In addition, LO may be resigned as well as Ariza may be resigned. People forget that with Pao, came a sizable contract that made any type of financial flexibility difficult.

    It’s evident that you don’t like to plan. You’re thinking one year at a time. Lakers management, and all teams for that matter, plan at least 3 to 5 years ahead. Since you failed to understand, so I’ll even more clear:

    - Kobe has 3 years left. After next year, he can opt-out. Oneof the resaons players have opt-out clauses in their contract, is becauase it will be that time to talk about an extension.

    - After next year Pau has 2 years and $34M left. He takes a lot of salary space.

    - Unless LO is not traded, the Lakers will his contract come off their books, just in time for Bynum’s double-digit to come in to play for the 09/10 season (you’re pretty much replacing LO’s contract with Bynum’s extension). Plus the Lakers may think about resigning LO. Even if LO takes a paycut, it’s highly doubtful it will be a $5M-$6M per year contract. It will most likely be a $7-$9M per year contract he’ll want.

    - Ariza is an unrestricted free agent next year. Will the Lakers resign him? If he has a good 08/09 season, he’ll demand at least an $5M-$6M/year contract, much like Pietrus (Orlando) and James Jones (Miami) got.

    At the end of the day, Golden State is OVERPAYING for Turiaf. They are in desparate need of a power player and because Baron opt-ed out the Warriors have money to play with, but Turiaf is not the guy you give this kind of contract to. Unfortunately for the Lakers, the fact that they have a huge payroll, they are no position to match overpaying offers. The only way I see the Lakers keeping Turiaf, is if they scratch Sasha off the list and let him go.

  • BringDFishBack

    You can’t plan in this business. Everything is unpredictable. Who expected Baron Davis to walk from GS and all the money there to sign for less with the Clippers. Who expected Brand to leave the Clippers after Baron signed and go to Phili? You can try to plan ahead, but it is unpredictable. Therefore you have to plan for the here and and now, what is happening and the only thing you know will happen. If something happens down the line, deal with it then. You are assuming that Bynum will get a double digit extension. You are assuming Lamar will resign. You are assuming Ariza will have a great season and the Lakers will resign him. Considering if all of these things happened, according to you thats $25 mil for those players. And here you are saying $2 mil is a lot.

    And do you know what the f your talking about with Kobe? You don’t include an opt out clause to discuss an extension. An extension doesn’t have to take place when someone is a free agent, they can get one while they are still under contract.

    I don’t forget about Pau. I know they are well over. That is why they can do this for Turiaf. Let him go or sign him, they are still going to be way over the cap and therefore not going to be signing free agents except for the exceptions.

    Based on what you say will happen when you plan ahead, the Lakers would be paying 83 million for 9 players. And 4 million is gonna have a big affect on that. They’re gonna need role players, or do you want them to have 6 players who signed for the minimum? You let me know exactly how that is gonna work out, because you love to plan ahead and know exactly what is gonna happen.

  • Thomas

    All players someday hope to win an NBA championship in their careers and only a few actually do. If Ronny wants money he can go to Oakland and play for a team that will struggle to make the playoffs now that they don’t have Baron Davis and missed out on Elton Brand. They won 45+ games last year and didn’t make the Playoffs and I expect the West to be just as competitive this year and so Golden State probably won’t make the playoffs. But if he stays in LA then he is almost guarenteed to win in the West and probably go back to the Finals and win this time around. Odds are he will go to Golden State and I don’t begudge him for that but he won’t win a championship and probably won’t in his career.

  • http://thelakersnation.com kb24 4life

    keepp himmm..
    i know is a lot of money for him
    but imagne at the start of next season… our bench will look absolutely dead.. the bench mob will not be the same w/o ronny..
    please mitch… keeeeeeep himmmmmmmm….

  • LakersAllDay

    Better Opportunity for him IMO. Gonna miss the guy.

  • http://www.jamieinsider.com Jamie Spears Insider

    Wow it’s certainly not going to be the same next season if he’s not back. I didn’t think he’d be offered that much. If it was a two million/season contract then that’d be more realistic to match but now it’s a 4-5 mil per season contract…

  • freddy b

    HAS ANYONE BROUGHT UP KOBE?…CAN HE RESTRUCTURE HIS CONTRACT…I KNOW IT’S ALMOST UNHEARD OF NOW, BUT I CAN REMEMBER MAGIC AND BIRD DOING THE SAME THING BACK IN THE DAY TO MAKE THEIR TEAMS BETTER, KNOWING THAT IF THE TEAM IS BETTER (WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS) THEY WOULD MAKE UP THEIR MONEY IN ENDORESMENTS…KOBE HAS TO BE SICK AT NOT HAVING A RING SINCE SHACK LEFT…AND HE SHOULD HAVE MORE ENDORSEMENTS…IF THEY WIN THE RING, MANY MORE WOULD COME HIS WAY

  • lskerfan567

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    finally somebody with decentcy to bring up whats a certainty not a rumor

  • JC

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! – Please MATCH.

  • kaynam24

    i dont blame ronny for taking this… hes been in da league for 3-4 yrs i think n hes making less than a milli its time for him to get his.. get your money

  • 123KID

    the signing isnt official until the 7 days are up. obviously mitch will start makin calls and see what he can offer to other guys. if he cant, then i will def see that he will match the offer for turiaf.

  • VoiceofReason

    I cant believe Ronni would leave us. He will always be a Laker.

  • nyla

    I’m gonna miss him. :( I don’t blame him for taking the money, I’m just disappointed. I thought he was a winner. Go Luck to him! I wish him and the Warriors the best in next years lottery!

  • nyla

    good*

  • kPoAbUe

    lmafooooooooooo i DONT CARE

  • LakersFirst

    [Comment ID #44463 Will Be Quoted Here]

    I have to comment on this because what you said was completely ascenine. All businesses, this includes sports organizations PLAN… PERIOD. Yes, the environment is unpredictable that is why you expect the unexpected. If you want to plan for one year at a time, then God help you, I hope you don’t own or run a business.

    Bynum will get a double digit extension. He and his agent’s have asked for it, and the Lakers were even prepared to pay it before the injury.

    Yes, I am assuming, that LO and Ariza will resign because that assumption will strap the Lakers the most financially. Again, plan for the worst (this goes back to planning, something that you ignore. Have you ever heard of a budgeting process???).

    You know every little about an opt-out clause. With every opt-out clause begins the discussion of an extension. I never said the extension has to take place. What I said, was the extension talks begin to happen. When those talks begin to happen, you then look at the budget sheet, add those figures in, and see what the result is. Again, back to planning.

    I don’t know where you got the impression, that I am saying that the Lakers are going to pay $83M for 9 players. They are already at $75M with 10 players, add Sasha to that and that could easily go to $80M and you want to overpay Turiaf another $4m, which takes the Lakers to $84M. That would take them to 12 players, sign another one or two veteran players, you’re talking about at least $85M salary. Hell we would be $5M shy of the Knicks and their bloated $90M salary, but according to you that would be alright.

    Remember, genious, its easy to spend money. Any idiot can spend money (you’re proof), but when it comes to reducing payroll and giving yourself the financial flexibility where you can acquire free agents, that is difficult. You can ask the Knicks, the Mavericks and now the Suns. All teams that haven’t won sh*t in the past decade.

  • http://lakers.com TRADE_WALTON

    WE SHUD OF TRADE WALTON INSTEAD OF RONNIE…OR MIHM

    1 lUV to RONN

  • gspence001

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • DCLAKER

    I’m goin’ throw up about 4 times straight.I know it’s business 1st so I can’t be TOO mad,it’s just guys like Ronny are like Kobe,once in a lifetime but there’s still some days left so you never know???

    So see this is BUSINESS 1st,THEY TOOK ONE OF OURS,DAMMIT(EXCUSE MY FRENCH,pun intended),MATT BARNES OR AZUBUIKE!

    …and by the way WE ARE TOO SMALL AT PG,KEYON DOOLING MITCH!!!

  • justin

    good for you ronny. you deserve it.
    you will always be a laker.

    i’ll be there when the warriors come to town and be the first one to cheer for you.

  • Geloman

    Who cares about budgets and sh..t! Buss has a ton of money and ticket prices have gone up again. Lakers can afford to match the salary just like they can afford the luxury tax.

    Keep Ronny NOW!!!!!

  • Daryl Imhoff

    It’s time to think of small improvements or replacements.
    How about Mickael Gelabale of Seattle(Oklahoma)or Walter Herrmann of Detriot. These are two players that will not break the bank. They have the look of two basketball players who would fit into the “Bench Mob” of the Lakers.
    The Lakers do not have to any major changes. They are both free agents and would not cost 34 million as would Ronny.
    Ronny is a special person who deserves to be rewarded, but the Lakers have too many people upfront. Besides Ronny did not exactly overpower the Celtics in the finals. Lastly, as has been mentioned the Lakers need to save money for Bynum and remember Kobe can opt out in ’09. The Lakers need cash to hopefully resign him or restructure his next long term contract.

  • gugy

    Good luck Turiag.

    It’s all about the money, honey. Simple as that.

  • DCLAKER

    From ALL FANS…..RONNY!RONNY!RONNY!

    ALWAYS A LAKER4LIFE(had to use ya’ homie)!!!!!

  • rei24mamba

    we still have gud free agents left.. sgn posey or hermann

  • e

    now moving on to the next line of business

  • yellowpurplefever

    Bon Chance Ronny!! My fav. Laker period. Kobe second. This is a SAD day. Au revoir. I admired his journey to the NBA, “live life as if its a new” We will see you 4 x a year old friend.

  • DCLAKER

    Someone said this guy earlier and would be LIKE ‘DAT for us ….and cheap,MICHAEL GELABALE!

  • L.A.alltheway

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    WE LOOVE RONNNNNY!
    DONT GO!

    but in seriousness why would they offer him more then 4mil a year when he was playing for under 1mil a year for us?

  • e

    [Comment ID #44674 Will Be Quoted Here]

    why does gsw do anything that they do?

    they think they’re a bunch of thugs, thats their selling point for their team..

    they make dumb deals, play in a lamewad offense that gets them nowhere and sign ppl that look as thugish as possible

    sorry gsw fans, warriors are just stupid

  • http://youtube.com/MvpGoesToKobe LakersNewDynasty08

    nooooooooooo i love ronny

  • http://www.myspace.com/zzball3rzz zzLAKESHOWzz

    peace bruh…gonna miss you.
    go make your money tho.

  • Anonymous.

    jesus christ guys. you gotta understand its business first. I’m happy ronny got a good deal and as for varejao. FUCK NO.

    I watch varejao and he’s as irritating to watch as kwame.

  • angus quantum

    no more dancing.

  • http://fsd gfxdgfsd

    How can you do that, Ronny??????
    bye bye freak and good luck

  • KING BQ

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    WHY :::WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY :*-(

    I WILL MISS HIM, DAWG!

  • BPandJ

    They can give Luke and Radman $30+mil but they can’t give Turiaf $17mil?

  • BIGGOACH

    Let Ronnie go!!
    we need the cap space for other players. btw get rid of LUKE!! thats a wasted contract!

  • lskerfan567

    [Comment ID #44435 Will Be Quoted Here]

    uh oh, lakerfirst and bringdfish back is having a cat fight

  • lskerfan567

    ronny left us, well this si not as bad when let go the greatest point guard in franchise history (smush parker), he did it everything, turn over the basketball, cant shoot to save his life, best of all he had a funny looking face

  • KING BQ

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  • http://ld2k.com LD2k

    Check this out guys. I HIGHLY DOUBT Lakers will match:

    Turiaf’s deal is structured in a “slightly frontloaded” manner, according to agent Mark Bartelstein, which will make it even costlier for the Lakers to match.

    Assuming Turiaf’s salary for next season is around $5 million, the Lakers would effectively be paying $10 million for a backup who would receive limited playing time behind Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

    SOURCE

  • http://www.hard-wood.org/?cat=34 Billy Kupchak

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    slightly front-loaded = $5M $4.5M $4M $3.5M = $17M
    :D

  • http://www.vladehasaposse.com Tim M.

    I’ve been trying not to think about this. The Lakers are not going to be the same without the Rone-Dog…. at the same time… You can’t pay the dude $10 mil. Just doesn’t make sense. It’s a bad situation for the Lakes….

  • MILO

    well i guess money is more important to most players than bn in a contending team!

  • T-Dub

    Ronny aint STUPID!…to all you people talking about a chance to win over money. That applys to players who’ve already gotten big contracts and gotten paid. Ronny hasn’t made any money. I’m sure none of you would turn down 17mil for 1mil! who are you kidding!

  • lskerfan567

    i got a idea trade LO for stephen Jackson and ronny

  • Mitch4Pres

    honestly im really really sad that ronny will probably leave us. im seriously upset right now man damn.

  • LakeShow44

    Golden State just loves taking players from LA. First D-Fish…now Ronny and Maggette.

  • http://ld2k.com LD2k

    It is upsetting, but be happy for him. I’m glad he can play the beautiful game of basketball. He’ll always be a Laker to me.

  • lskerfan567
  • DCLAKER

    Ickerfan,Vlad & Mihm for Villanueva and Desmond Mason?

    ..or Vlad and Mihm for …..JAMAL CRAWFORD(Perfect backup to Kobe)?

  • MILO

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    c’mon 1mill! u know the Lakers are not about to pay 17mill on lux tax it’s like they would be payin 34mill for him and hes not worth it! maybe if they got rid of all the bums like mihm fluke Vlady Newble Mbenga they could then afford to pay ronny!!!

  • lskerfan567

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    VLAD MIHM FOR CRAWFORD IS THE MIST POSSIBLE
    The Bucks wont tade charlie and desmond just for vlad and mihm

  • Banzai

    I won’t lose any sleep over him gone. Sure he can be crazy on the floor but he is undersized and needs to work on his shot…Luke on the other hand needs to retire.

  • http://www.thelakersnation.com Fred A.
  • Jason

    To all those who say “Ronny did it for the money,” and “I can’t believe he’d leave a title contending team for the cash,” etc… Do you realize how much money he was making with the Lakers, or lack thereof? About $770,000 if I’m correct, and in NBA circles, that is DIRT CHEAP, especially for someone of Ronny’s caliber (both on and off the court). He is GROSSLY UNDERPAID. It’s a shame when someone like Kwame Brown pulls in $9 million when Ronny hardly gets 10% of that. Ronny completely deserves the raise and I’m happy for the guy–he’ll always be a Laker in my mind.

  • lakerschamps09

    ok i see it like this if we keep ronny then we dont get artest and thomas..if ronny leaves we get artest and thomas to fill ronny spots…no need to have ronny contract and thomas contract…soo idk

  • lskerfan567

    ronny is one ugly mo fo

  • tradekwame11

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    lol ur exactly right

  • e

    keeping him would be us shooting ourselves in the foot

  • tradekwame11
  • 2inthepink1inthestink

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    the names on the top r the ones i prefer to run over!!!

  • lskerfan567

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    I KNOW I’M ALWAYS RIGHT

  • kobe124

    What about Mark Madsen aka Mad Dogg? isnt he a Laker for life too?lol

  • Banzai

    I don’t think the Lakers will match the offer….they are already wasting money on Luke and Vlad….

  • PGMVP

    Bye Ronny, remember people we will get a replacement right away Kenny Thomas. Sure he may not be as an energizer as Ronny but at least we get a guy who can contribute. The negative only about this guy is his contract but at least if we get this guy we would get Ron Artest too, so yea goodbye Ronny good luck in the bay area.

  • Rpoc

    Oh hell no. Kenny Thomas is post-ankle surgery Chris Mihm lite now. Think about that for a second.

    If Turiaf leaves, Kurt Thomas should be on the list of replacements. He would our version of PJ Brown.