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#21 Black Sheep

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Posted July 24, 2008 - 08:18 PM

unless deng improved on his 3... then pass
dont need him

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Posted July 24, 2008 - 09:29 PM

dont care if we have deng or no deng

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Posted July 24, 2008 - 11:05 PM

Whats the latest on him. I really doubt Buss will give Vujacic the money he wants.

JR Smith could become an allstar, his defense is below average, but I see a very stagnant bench if we lose Vujacic.

I wouldn't mind picking up JR, he might even learn a lot from Kobe and eventually be his replacement.

So how much is he looking for and what are the chances that the FO are eyeing on him if Vujacic leaves?

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Posted July 24, 2008 - 11:12 PM

The Lakers won't pay Sasha $30M when he's only worth $15M. I was also thinking about JR Smith... he's looking for the MLE. The Lakers have a good chance because Denver doesn't want to add anymore salary to their payroll for next season.

Do it Mitch.

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Posted July 24, 2008 - 11:15 PM

yea, hes a fearless shooter like Vujacic, and has more skills in his arsenal than Vujacic. Fastbreaks in LA could be fun again! Farmar with Ariza and JR Smith as running mates??? OhhhWee!

JR Smith and Kwame Brown, ill be happy.

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Posted July 25, 2008 - 12:04 AM


We can sign him for MLE

No team offering him

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Posted July 25, 2008 - 12:18 AM

yea, hes a fearless shooter like Vujacic, and has more skills in his arsenal than Vujacic. Fastbreaks in LA could be fun again! Farmar with Ariza and JR Smith as running mates??? OhhhWee!

JR Smith and Kwame Brown, ill be happy.

Yeah, JR Smith, Kwame Brown, and Quinton Ross. :nervous:
Do it Mitch. :rock:

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Posted July 25, 2008 - 10:23 AM

Whats the latest on him. I really doubt Buss will give Vujacic the money he wants.

JR Smith could become an allstar, his defense is below average, but I see a very stagnant bench if we lose Vujacic.

I wouldn't mind picking up JR, he might even learn a lot from Kobe and eventually be his replacement.

So how much is he looking for and what are the chances that the FO are eyeing on him if Vujacic leaves?

JR Smith is a nice player with a great 3 point shot, but he's a loose cannon waiting to go off. But I do like the thought of Farmar, Ariza and JR off the bench. I'd much rather keep Vujacic, but if he's available, I'd take him in a heartbeat.

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Posted July 25, 2008 - 11:10 AM

yea, if Vujacic leaves, are bench scoring isnt too prominant




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Posted July 25, 2008 - 01:14 PM

:nervous: :bynum: Not this ball hog

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Posted July 25, 2008 - 03:08 PM

isnt this the guy who called kobe a nobody?

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Posted July 25, 2008 - 03:08 PM

needs to improve his three

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Posted July 25, 2008 - 06:52 PM


we got vujacic

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Posted July 25, 2008 - 11:21 PM

Smith is a restricted free agent anyways.

We'd have to overpay to get him. The Nuggets are going to match any reasonable offer sent his way much like the Lakers would've done with Vujacic.

I do like his game though...

JR Smith is TOP TEN in the NBA in points scored per minute.

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Posted July 25, 2008 - 11:22 PM

Here is what Sky said on this issue (has sources within LA organization):

The Lakers have been after Deng for two years. They've already contacted his agent about S&T scenarios. That can only realistically happen in an Odom deal and only if Buss was already ok with the fiscal ramifications. The decision has already been made, if the Lakers can make a deal where Odom and Deng are the principals they are pulling the trigger without any hesitation whatsoever.

Raise all the negatives you want CB, the Lakers have already made the call on this one. They do it.

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Posted July 26, 2008 - 06:21 AM

Wont Happen
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Posted July 26, 2008 - 09:03 AM

Here is what Sky said on this issue (has sources within LA organization):

I can't say I've seen much of Deng, living in L.A. makes it sorta impossible but from what I've seen with him when he does play the Lakers or the Clippers, his a guy that pretty much explodes every game with around 16 points and 5 boards. However, he has the potential of getting more points when his not the focal point of guys playing defense on him since the opposing players need to worry about the other three. We saw that with Odom this year but from what he showed us in the Finals and we've known before the Lakers snatched Odom... his one unconsistent player.

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Posted July 26, 2008 - 09:42 AM

Nissan what do you mean the Bulls didnt want to trade Deng for Kobe .. They did its just that Kobe wanted to play with Deng thats why the trade didnt Happen ..

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Posted July 26, 2008 - 06:23 PM

we got sasha so there is no pont IMO

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Posted July 26, 2008 - 08:16 PM

This is just an idea for hypothetical discussion. I'm not necessarily saying I'd trade Pau, but I do think it makes for great "what ifs" and basketball discussion -- a lot like the Odom for Artest ideas do.

Trade Pau Gasol!
That's right, you heard me. No, I did not say Lamar Odom. I said Pau Gasol. It may sound absurd at first, but I implore you to hear me out as I play a little Devil's Advocate.

Why It Could Work:
There are two main reasons I believe this scenario could potentially be plausible and beneficial to the team:
1. Money is saved now AND later.
2. The future is brightened with a pick and potential free agent opportunities.

Considering that this team was only TWO WINS away from an NBA Championship, and it has Andrew Bynum coming back, a lateral trade on the court, becomes a solid move once the off-court factors kick in. Remember this point. It is key. I am working around the notion that this deal only has to be a lateral movement on the court.

The Trade:
Here is the proposal:
Vladimir Radmanovic and Pau Gasol for Rip Hamilton, Antonio McDyess, and a future 1st round pick with declining levels of protection with each passing season.

Why do the Pistons do it?
Of course, right away, an explanation is required as to why the PISTONS would want to do this deal. Simply put, they finally get a deal where they consolidate some of their talent. Gasol, Rasheed, and Prince instantly becomes one of the most versatile front-courts in basketball. Rasheed provides the necessary anchoring, toughness, and defense that a big playing next to Gasol must have. He spaces the interior for Gasol, unlike Odom, and allows him to work one on one down low. Rasheed is not a reliable post scorer nor a reliable source of offense in general. In the first 43 minutes of a game, Pau is. Pau provides them with a GO-TO man in the post and thus greatly improves the offensive out put of a team that can struggle to score.

The Pistons get much younger with this deal. First of all, Pau is only 27. McDyess is well into his thirties. Because of the roster shake-up, Maxiell and Stuckey are thrust into the limelight. Detroit believes they are ready for this task -- especially Stuckey as evidenced by their active shopping of Billups. If there is anything Stuckey can do, it's score. Because he is a combo guard, he is best suited next to a PG who can shoot lights out and play off the ball well. Billups is that man. Stuckey is 6'5" and has the athleticism to handle most SGs in the NBA. When necessary, Prince can be used on the tough covers. From Detroit's perspective, they get younger and better at the expense of a pick and some cash. After getting handily beat by the Celtics, it is clear a move needs to be made. This could be "that" move for the Pistons because it isn't an all-or-nothing, push-all-the-chips-in-gamble; even if they aren't entirely successful, they still have an excellent young core (they don't trade away a single young piece). In addition, and not to be forgotten, though Vladimir is included here for salary purposes, he DOES provide a needed skill set for Detroit with Rip's departure and that is the role of the outside sniper.

Why do the Lakers do it?
Why L.A. might consider such a move is FAR more complex and I'm going to start with the on-court implications because they are of lesser importance (though, obviously, still critical).

Why Lamar as a 3 won't work:
I have to preface this entire section of my proposal with the assertion that Lamar Odom as a "SF" will not work.

Though Lamar will be defending the "3" or "SFs", he is going to be playing the off-guard in the triangle. That is, Lamar is going to be playing weakside, opposite of the sideline triangle, waiting on ball reversals when defenses flood the strong side. As the off-guard, his primary duties are ball-handling, entering the ball in the high post, operating the two man game, cutting, and shooting off-ball. I'll address each of these issues individually.

When matched up as a 3, Lamar Odom is not a strong ball-handler. This is not a secret or a mystery. In the playoffs, against San Antonio and Boston, the Lakers offense went stagnant for long periods of time because the team lacked dribble penetration and shot creation. Unlike most teams, our offensive attack has no scripted plays headed toward the hoop. The primary goal of the offense is to get a lay-up by exploiting defensive overplays or a post opportunity for our best scorer on the low block. Because of that, we need players who are capable of breaking a defense down through the use of their own talents and perhaps a pick in the two man game. Fisher is not capable of providing this ability. Bynum and Gasol are certainly not capable of providing this ability -- though to some degree both can create shots (Gasol can't when the pressure is on, but more on that later). Lamar, as a 3, is equally inept taking a defender off the bounce. In essence, by playing Lamar at the 3, we are asking Kobe to be primary and SOLE dribble-penetrator AND shot creater on the team (with the exception of Farmar on the second unit). This is poor floor balance.

To make matters worse, Odom does NOT open lanes for Kobe to drive with his shooting (like Rad does). He, in fact, closes them. By playing Odom on the perimeter, we essentially hand defenses a Rondo card -- they can play as off of Odom as they please. This hurts the team in so many ways that it cannot be summarized with numbers or text; you have to watch the games to see it take place. I'm sure we haven't forgotten Odom's benchings during critical stretches of the Finals and other games. For those who noticed his negative effect offensively during the Finals, this will only be amplified when he plays on the perimeter. In the mid-range, Odom commands some level of respect. From deep, he doesn't.

For those saying, "look how good Odom was as a 3rd option! Just wait till he's a 4th option!" Ask yourself, "How did Odom help as a 3rd option and how will he help as a 4th option in his new role?" To answer the first question, Odom was an extremely versatile interior defender. He grabbed boards and banged bodies with guys like Perkins while also matching skills with players such as Dirk. As a 3, this versatility is virtually gone. He must stay in front of players who are simply quicker than him. To quote Tex Winters, "Odom has the worst sliding mechanics I have ever seen." That is a strong statement. Simply put, Odom isn't quick from side to side. Guys like Pierce? They are quick from side to side -- quicker than Odom. Odom did most of his scoring around the rim. Odom was around the rim most often when he was crashing for boards, cutting after beating a fellow, slower PF, getting a post opportunity, pushing on the fast break, but he also sank the occasional mid-range jumper. Of all the scoring opportunities listed, only cutting, pushing on the break, and the mid-range jumper will still be available. However, he will get LESS mid-range jumpers because he is going to be stationed further out from the hoop and spend more time off-ball, he is going to get LESS rebounds because he has to get back on defense (only two bigs stay back to board), he's not going to score as much off of cuts because he will have a harder team beating 3s off-ball than he did 4s, AND he's simply going to be around the hoop less (the place where his %s are highest).

Odom brings a lot to the table, but trying to pigeon hole him into the 3 position isn't going to work because he is going to be FORCED to play to his weaknesses:
-He doesn't cut well and now his job is even harder in this area
-He's a poor shooter and this is where most of his looks will come from as a perimeter player
-He can't penetrate to the hoop with frequency and now this will become more difficult against smaller, quicker defenders
-His rebounding responsibilities will decrease because he will spend more time on the perimeter
-His passing will be less important and he plays more and more off-ball.

Because of these factors many people think Lamar Odom should be traded for a true SF. This could definitely be the remember we are looking for. However, I'd like to offer forward the trade out-lined above as a framework for a potential alternative to the front court conundrum.

Examining the impacts on the backcourt:
1. About Rip
We all know a little bit about Hamilton. He is one of the best mid-range shooters in the game, he works tirelessly of the ball, he doesn't need to dominate the ball to score, he has excellent ball-handling ability, he's tough mentally AND physically, he's clutch, he's developed into a 40%+ three-point shooter, and he's a solid defender.

2. PG Defense
However, what a lot of people don't know is that Rip spent time in Detroit guarding QUICK PGs. Chauncey is given tons of credit as one of the best defenders in the game, but the fact is that Chauncey has a great defensive supporting cast around him and you don't even need to look at the guys who protect the rim first. Yes, that's right. Rip has the versatility to defend those quicker PGs. What does this mean for our team? Well, it means, for stretches, we would have an answer, besides Kobe, for those previously indomitable little guys who got into the paint at will against Farmar and Fisher.

3. Improved Spacing
Having a perimeter compromised of Rip, Kobe, and Fisher would result in excellent spacing because all three of these players are extremely proficient jump shooters from all areas of the court. The spacing here is much, much better than it would be with Lamar at the 3.

4. Creating shots and a Consistent second option
In addition, Rip FINALLY would give us a dependable second option when Kobe sits down on the bench. He can create his own shot at anytime off the bounce or in the post which makes him an ideal triangle player.

5. Experience matters on a young team
Rip is a veteran with championship experience; he has the type of poise we lacked against the Celtics (Sasha/Farmar). Does anyone think Ray Allen would have waltzed to the cup in the same fashion he did against Sasha going one on one against Rip Hamilton?

6. Rip negates the need for Sasha
Rip can play 40 minutes a game. We wouldn't need to pay Sasha for duplicate skill sets. There wouldn't be playing time for him in this scenario anyway.

Examining the impacts on the front-court:
There are numerous ways in which this deal would improve our front-court:
1. Kobe in the front-court
Tex has always advocated Kobe at the wing stating he is a better and more efficient scorer at this position. The numbers back this up.

Per 48 Minutes:
This year, at SG: 26.9 PER, 49.8 eFG%, and 34.4 points. 
This year, at SF: 28.4 PER, 51.7 eFG%, and 36.0 points. 
Last year, at SG: 25.7 PER, 50.1 eFG%, and 33.7 points.
Last year, at SF: 31.4 PER, 50.8 eFG%, and 42.2 points.

2. More post-ups for Kobe
In addition, because Odom can play the triangle 2 while still defending 4s (Pau can't play the perimeter at all), Kobe would be allowed to spend all of his time in the pinch post, mid-wing, and the wing. He can split all his time at the 3 and 4 spots in the triangle (offensively). Kobe is the most unstoppable high post player in basketball. He is close enough, from this 12-15ft distance, to raise up and hit the jumper well over 50% and he has enough space to use ONE dribble to get to the rim for the finish. With the array of moves he possesses, and due to the fact he has no weak hand or foot, Kobe cannot be stopped in the pinch post. Period. With Odom, Pau, Bynum, Kobe doesn't even get to sniff the post unless either Pau or Bynum sits. When both are on the court, neither can play any of the perimeter triangle slots. This leaves Bryant relegated strictly to working from the top of the key and from the furthest reaches of the wing offensively. He is simply less efficient from this distance.

3. Pau is a soft rebounder regardless of position
A lot of people claim that Pau is suddenly going to be fixed when he moves to the four spot. Well, granted, he isn't going to get abused quite as bad on the boards, but guess what? He still loses the battle.

The Break Down:
10/10 Samples of Gasol at C have him getting less rebounds than his opponent.
4/7 Samples of Gasol at PF have him getting less rebounds than his opponent.
3/3 Samples of Gasol at C in the playoffs have him getting less rebounds than his opponent.
1/3 Samples of Gasol at PF in the playoffs have him getting less rebounds than his opponent.
1/7 Samples of Gasol have him getting a superior rebounding differential at C versus PF.
Gasol's Average Differential at C from all Data: -3.04
Gasol's Average Differential at PF from all Data: -0.33

Conclusion: While he gets out-rebounded at both post positions on average, Gasol is a much better rebounder at the 4 and does not hurt a team's rebounding ability nearly as much when he plays that position. However, he still loses the battle.

The Data:
Rebounding differential per 48 minutes:
C: -4.4
C: -2.4

C: -1.2

PF: -1.3
C: -1.7

2005-2006 Playoffs:
PF: +0.4
C: -6.4

PF: -2.3
C: -1.6

2004-2005 Playoffs:
PF: +4.6
C: -3.7

PF: +0.1
C: -0.4

2003-2004 Playoffs:
PF: -3.3
C: -7.2

PF: -0.5
C: -1.4

As we can see, the grandiose ideas of LO, Pau and Bynum snatching every board away are far-fetched. Pau is going to get beat on the boards even at the 4 spot. In fact, he was matched up with KG very, very frequently in the Finals and got beat soundly on the boards. Also, LO is going to be headed the other direction, getting back on defense, as all SFs do, while Pau and Bynum board. He's not even going to be responsible for rebounding duties when he plays SF much of the time.

4. Pau won't be better defensively against 4s
Now, let's address the claim that Pau will be better defensively against 4s. Do people honestly believe that Pau has the foot-speed to stay with David West, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Garnett, Amare Stoudemire, and the like out on the perimeter? If KG would have made anywhere NEAR his regular percentages on his jumpers, like the usual %s he put up against Gasol while the two played elsewhere, KG would have averaged somewhere near 24ppg and 50% shooting with 13 rebounds a game. We cannot count on people like Garnett to miss a higher % of their jumpers when history suggests they are good shooters. Pau is not a terrible man defender in the post; he is actually very underrated. Out on the perimeter against some of today's 4s? I see big time trouble in store for him and, consequently, the Lakers.

Let's check the numbers on this issue:
Regular Seasons (PER given up PF vs C:
2006-2007: No time at PF
2005-2006: 17.1 vs 15.1 -- PF defense was worse
2004-2005: 17.0 vs. 19.0 -- PF defense was better, but played bad defensively at both positions
2003-2004: 17.6 vs. 13.3 -- PF defense was FAR worse
2002-2003: No PER available, but 55.4 eFG% and 23.7 points at PF versus 48.8 eFG% and 19.4 points at C

What have we learned?: Pau is a WORSE defender at the four. Not better, WORSE.

5. Pau is anti-clutch
Simply put, we relied on Pau for second option type offensive production this post-season and he failed us. It is in the scouting reports and it manifested itself in the playoffs; he has a tendency to get caught up in big moments and disappear. In the last 5 minutes of the game when the score is within 5 (playoffs), Pau averaged 17.6 points per 48 minutes. That is far from impressive. However, the important thing here is that when we went to him down low, he shot 40 eFG% on the shots he created. FORTY percent of these shots were BLOCKED. FORTY PERCENT. Oh, and the dunk attempts that were, 2/3 of the time, created by a team mate for him, he only made 60%. Even beyond the numbers, Pau is simply not a clutch offensive player nor a guy who handles the big stage well in general.

Pau's primary contribution to our team, during the regular season, was his POST-SCORING and his ability to be a second option. If he can't do this in the playoffs, ask yourself what he is really bringing to the table and exactly how valuable is he when he doesn't play well offensively?

6. Benefits of LO at the 4
LO, on the other hand? He's proven, defensively, against guys like Dirk, David West, and he theoretically has better tools to slow Amare (though it really hasn't helped in the most recent meetings). Either way, I think most people can agree that, although he's not a stud, LO is simply a better man defender, at the four, than Gasol against most players. In fact, because he won't be relied upon for much offensive out-put, LO can FOCUS on defense and rebounding at the four spot and will do those jobs well in the process. LO will never be dominated on the boards or look like his feet are trapped in cement blocks. We can count on that.

I know it's a sad, old, and oft-played tune, but LO already knows the triangle. He's had several very effective stretches as a facilitating rebounder at the four position. He's solid for us in this role and his versatility allows Kobe to post up which is the single most underrated aspect of LO's game by most CL fans; this is invaluable in my opinion.

7. Why McDyess matters
Antonio McDyess gives us some of the veteran experience and leadership we desperately need. He is tough as nails and assume the enforcer role we never had this past season. Yes, he's had injury troubles, but he's played all 82 for the last two seasons. When LO is hurting the offense with his jump shot or lack thereof, in comes McDyess who shot 41 eFG%, during the regular season and 49 eFG% in the playoffs, on his jump shots. He is a very good mid-range shooter. In addition, he is actually a better defender than Lamar. When we need a defensive boost we can turn to McDyess. Though he doesn't get any credit for it, McDyess actually played center for stretches against the Magic and that means he manned up with Dwight Howard. Against the right opponents, I think he can get burn at center when Bynum is resting.

8. Bynum becomes THE man
By making Bynum the only offensive post option outside of Kobe, there is no question about the big man pecking order. Low block touches go to Andrew. This not only speeds his development, but it pleases him and justifies a maximum level deal (or anything close to it). Pau gave us less and less in terms of one on one, back to the basket offense as the playoffs progressed, if Bynum can do just a little something, we're still improving in that category as well. Even if he doesn't, I believe Kobe is the best post player we have in any case.

Examining the impacts on the future of the team:
1. The Pick
Obviously, a first rounder helps us add prospective talent. That one is easy to understand and very straight forward.

2. Saving $$$
This is just simple math here.
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As you can see, the Lakers save about 8 million dollars over the next two years. Considering where we are luxury tax wise and factoring in the first round pick, That is somewhere between 10-14 million dollars of savings. That is nothing to sneeze at.

3. 2010 Cap Space
Technically, this is part of my last section, but it is so incredibly important to the idea at hand, that it deserves special attention. By decreasing our payroll in 2010 by 25 million dollars, we create enough cap space for a maximum contract slot. No, Rip Hamilton is probably not the guy we are going to go after here. With this money, the Lakers will secure a competitive piece that is also YOUNG enough to be one of Bynum's cohorts once Kobe and Lamar are done playing basketball (which isn't immediately, mind you, because Kobe is only 32 at this point).

Here is what it looks like:

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There is a lot going on here so me list each one of my presumptions:
1. Kobe opts out and takes a paycut for the team. 65mi/4years. 16.25mi average a year.
2. Bynum goes ahead and gets his 80mi/5years.
3. Odom gets a 50mi/5year extension.
4. Farmar needs to be extended but is simply tendered a qualifying offer. We will resign him AFTER we sign a big name with the cap space to prevent him from eating it up.
5. Assuming our picks will be on the high side just to make the money seem more plausible in terms of what those picks cost us.
6a. Assuming the FO doesn't make a mistake signing scrubs for longer than a year without making it a team option. The core team in the 2009-2010 season will be:
PG: Fisher, Farmar
SG: Rip, 1st Rounder
SF: Kobe, Luke
PF: LO, McDyess
C: Bynum

6b. There will only be 9 players on contract in 2009-2010. They could address this during the 2008-2009 season by giving players two year deals in order to appease them. No one likes to take one year deals; they want more job security. The bottom line here is that they need to fill out the 4 roster spots (to get the "13 players" that Mitch said he wants) with veteran minimum contracts or two year deals with a team option for the second year. I don't think this is too unrealistic considering they are all scrubs.

Okay, so, we're sitting there with approximately 47.5 million tied up. The cap this year is 58.6 million. Last year it was about 55.6 million (more like 56.5). The year before that the cap only increased 2.5 million instead of 3. Even with inflation, I'll be conservative and say the cap only increases 5 million in the two years from 2008-2009 to 2010-2011. That leaves us with 61 million as the cap and the Lakers sitting approximately 13.5 million under that number. This is not enough to get LeBron, but it is enough to get Bynum a partner.

Let's take a nice look at the 2010 free agent list(well the ones I like):
Player			 Team		   Free Agent Type
Al Horford		 Atlanta		Restricted F.A.
Al Thornton		L.A. Clippers  Restricted F.A.
Amare Stoudemire   Phoenix		Unrestricted F.A.
Caron Butler	   Washington	 Unrestricted F.A.
Chris Bosh		 Toronto		Unrestricted F.A.
Dwyane Wade		Miami		  Unrestricted F.A.
Greg Oden		  Portland	   Restricted F.A.
Jason Richardson   Charlotte	  Unrestricted F.A.
Josh Howard		Dallas		 Unrestricted F.A.
Kevin Durant	   Seattle		Restricted F.A.
LeBron James	   Cleveland	  Unrestricted F.A.
Michael Redd	   Milwaukee	  Unrestricted F.A.
Ming Yao		   Houston		Unrestricted F.A.
Richard Jefferson  Milwaukee	  Unrestricted F.A.
Sean Williams	  New Jersey	 Restricted F.A.
Thaddeus Young	 Philadelphia   Restricted F.A.
Yi Jianlian		New Jersey	 Restricted F.A.

You don't think one of these guys will be stuck on a bad team looking to skip town for money and a better opportunity elsewhere? Everyone in the league knows there is FA action of enormous importance going down in 2010; the ramifications will be felt for years and years. This puts L.A. right in the thick of it all.

In fact, if the FO can dump Walton, perhaps using the Pistons 1st round pick they acquired, it puts the Lakers in the mix for James, Bosh, and Wade. If the Lakers landed any of these players, there would be no down time from the winning down by Kobe/Rip/LO/Bynum from 2008-2010 (chance for two rings). Kobe would be able to ride off into the sunset. For the last four seasons of his career, he'd have a great chance to win rings in each and every season. The Lakers would keep right on winning once he was gone. A core of Bynum/Any of the big names on that list/Veteran LO is still a very, very good core trio. Worst comes to worst, the FO can bring Rip back at a fair price. From there, the roster could be filled with veterans using the remaining cap space. This would give the Lakers a chance for four more good runs at a title while Kobe was still playing.

Final Thoughts
Remember, as long as you think the team, post-trade, is good enough to win rings, it doesn't matter whether or not you think we'd be even better with Pau. In this variation, we save money, collect talent for the future, and open avenues that could extend our dynasty well into the next decade. Personally, I think there is a strong argument in favor of us also improving on the court. Mainly, I just want people to think and explore new avenues that most Laker fans aren't talking about. Could trading Pau be one such avenue? I think so.

I appreciate any and all feedback as well as criticism.

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