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#81 I Love Lebron

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Posted November 05, 2018 - 06:46 AM

Makes sense to fire him now; especially since the next game is on Wednesday. Lots of time.
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Posted November 05, 2018 - 06:49 AM

i  dont understand until which point the fo is waiting for?


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Posted November 05, 2018 - 07:30 AM

Manaro please just shut up

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Posted November 05, 2018 - 01:43 PM

Manaro please just shut up


First or second time I have agreed with you. Coaching isn’t the problem. Personnel is. LeBron, Javale, Rondo have been playing consistently fairly well, while the young guys have been all over the place.

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Posted November 05, 2018 - 02:25 PM

First or second time I have agreed with you. Coaching isn’t the problem. Personnel is. LeBron, Javale, Rondo have been playing consistently fairly well, while the young guys have been all over the place.

coaching is certainly the problem. Bad use of time outs, poor communication on defense, no offensive identity, etc. the personnel needs a shake up
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Posted November 05, 2018 - 02:31 PM

coaching is certainly the problem. Bad use of time outs, poor communication on defense, no offensive identity, etc. the personnel needs a shake up

Watching the game last night, I have to agree.  There is zero communication going on defense, perimeter guys' effort is sorely lacking.  Maybe that's not entirely Luke's fault, but would they pay better attention to a new messenger?



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Posted November 05, 2018 - 02:40 PM

Luke will start cracking down about game 20. Lebron is the only player he wont absolutely bench.

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Posted November 05, 2018 - 04:26 PM


Someone actually logged the number of set plays we ran. Nine against the Raptors tonight, and 10 against the Blazers last night. League average estimated to be 30-35. Inexcusable even with the higher pace.

Proof: https://docs.google....t#gid=357565944


Murmuys runs the offense according to a lot of folks. Figured this guy was brought in for his work with Toronto, but he’s another U of A guy. Also apparent that the mastermind behind Toronto’s offense was Nurse, not Murmuys.

Not sure who’s available, but it’s clear that the staff needs help on that front. It’s inexcusable to not have an offensive identity outside of rebound and run....which doesn’t work as well when you’re not defending that great.
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Posted November 05, 2018 - 05:57 PM

Fire Luke he sucked as a player and sucks as a coach
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Posted November 07, 2018 - 10:57 PM

Defense aside, I actually saw the Lakers trying out some good stuff on offense tonight. Not all of it paid off, but definitely a step in the right direction. 
 
Don't have time to break down the plays, but I'm sure LFR or someone else will do it.


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Posted November 11, 2018 - 11:57 PM

I think there is basically no chance Luke is still coach next season so really just a matter of when not if imo.

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Posted November 12, 2018 - 12:13 AM

I think there is basically no chance Luke is still coach next season so really just a matter of when not if imo.

 

Maybe.

 

I'd say Luke does do some weird stuff at times, but his greatest strength is handling egos, which may end up being more important than the Xs and Os.

 

Also, we're top 10 in offensive rating which is pretty good considering the turnover on the roster as well as all the egos that has to be handled. 20th in defensive efficiency isn't good, but its already looking better these past couple of games and should improve going forward.

 

It's a bit weird how a guy like Brad Stevens - the expert Xs and Os guy - gets zero criticism for being 7-6 on a team with established veterans, very little turnover and coming off a solid season, but Luke is being bombarded on all fronts despite having the same damn record.


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Posted November 12, 2018 - 12:24 AM

I feel like this is his 3rd year and I haven't seen enough improvement as a coach and offensively I'm not even sure what we run aside from a general philosophy of pushing the ball after every rebound. I agree that his best strength is player / ego management. He really needed to hire better assistants though to cover up his lack of Xs and Os. His college buddies are underperforming in that regard imo.

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Posted November 12, 2018 - 12:28 AM

I feel like this is his 3rd year and I haven't seen enough improvement as a coach and offensively I'm not even sure what we run aside from a general philosophy of pushing the ball after every rebound. I agree that his best strength is player / ego management. He really needed to hire better assistants though to cover up his lack of Xs and Os. Shaw and his college buddies are underperforming in that regard imo.

 

I agree with that and i think there is a lot of wasted potential when he struggle with the Xs and Os. A few new assistant coaches would do wonders.

 

Generally i just think team record depend so damn much on the players and team chemistry. Just look at Minnesota, Washington and even the Rockets.



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Posted December 12, 2018 - 01:53 PM

Phil Jackson in the building (Lakers practice facility) today. First time in 2 years lol.


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Posted December 12, 2018 - 01:59 PM

but phil wont coach man.. lakers are off road trip so i think he did not even met lebron etc


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Posted December 12, 2018 - 05:08 PM

I hope Phil returns in a "Tex Winters" type offensive consultant role for Luke and the Lakers.  I don't LeBron would let past mis-statements by Phil, who is a notorious gaffe machine, get in the way of basketball advice.

 

LeBron in the Triple Option Offense (Triangle) could become even more efficient.



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Posted December 14, 2018 - 11:09 AM

I hope Phil returns in a "Tex Winters" type offensive consultant role for Luke and the Lakers. I don't LeBron would let past mis-statements by Phil, who is a notorious gaffe machine, get in the way of basketball advice.

LeBron in the Triple Option Offense (Triangle) could become even more efficient.


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Posted December 15, 2018 - 02:07 PM

Man these comments about Luke not being in the mold of a coach Magic wants and him wanting to bring in a fiery old school guy kinda scares the [expletive] outta me lol. I haven't been Luke's biggest fan or critic but I'll be rooting extra hard for him now. If the alternative is a guy like Scott, Worthy, Rambis, etc. I'm on Team Luke all the way haha. Magic and Rob haven't let us down so far so I'll hold off judgement until the summer.
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Posted December 15, 2018 - 06:59 PM

Man these comments about Luke not being in the mold of a coach Magic wants and him wanting to bring in a fiery old school guy kinda scares the [expletive] outta me lol. I haven't been Luke's biggest fan or critic but I'll be rooting extra hard for him now. If the alternative is a guy like Scott, Worthy, Rambis, etc. I'm on Team Luke all the way haha. Magic and Rob haven't let us down so far so I'll hold off judgement until the summer.

 

Agreed, the rhetoric of Magic wanting an old-school tough guy mold of coach definitely scares me, haha. I'm not sure how accurate these reports are, but I really hope we go on a large losing streak soon. 

 

I don't agree with some of Luke's lineups and decisions in the final minutes of the games (as well as his choices for his assistant staff), but some things are just out of his control. I look at our free throw shooting and often see us shooting around 50-65% from the line and only losing by a few points...factors like that place the onus on the players and not on Luke. 






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