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Poll: Build a contender around youngsters (6 member(s) have cast votes)

Does the young core need veteran help to turn this team into contender? If so, what sort of support they should receive?

  1. No,they don't need veteran help, they just need some time. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Yes, role players that cover their weaknesses would be adequate help. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Yes, an elite player leading this team for a few years would help them the most. (5 votes [83.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 83.33%

  4. Yes, they need multiple elite players to show them how to win. (1 votes [16.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

What are the areas this team needs to be supported most? (Pick only two)

  1. Defense (2 votes [18.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  2. Offense (2 votes [18.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  3. Shooting (3 votes [27.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

  4. Effort / Toughness (1 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  5. Experience (3 votes [27.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

Compared to other young teams, how would you describe the overall level of this current core?

  1. Already better, and have higher potential than other teams. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. About the same, but have higher potential than other teams. (4 votes [66.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  3. Worse, but can be better in future. (2 votes [33.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  4. Worse, and they don't have as much upside. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#61 GCMD

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Posted June 08, 2018 - 09:23 PM

Where did i misquote you?

Where did i say that young players aren't moved.

I made my case for why i like Ingram. I also asked you to make a case as for why he isn't special but you're not giving it.

 

I dont really give a [expletive] if you visited that page or not. Its a simple search on basketball reference, but with the way you're reacting i kinda regret i didn't post a link to some gay porn site.

 

Misquote?  About Randle.

 

You qualified your statement about moving young players (because of fit).  That happens every year also.  Again, stop the madness saying it shouldn't or doesn't.

 

You made a case for Ingram's stats being on a star trajectory and I refuted that by pointing out the flaw.  You see what you want to in those stats and ignore the players who have those stats and are not stars.  You didn't make a case for him being special.  You made a case for him being a good role player.  Versatility?  LOL...Draymond is versatile also.  If you think that's the type of star Ingram will be, that confirms what I've said.  You aren't building a winner around a player that doesn't have a legit special aspect to his game.

 

Take Giannis...he's versatile but he's also 6'10-6'11 with handles of a SG/SF and the passing skills of a combo guard, all while being an ELITE athlete and defender.  That's special.  That's not Ingram.

 

I'm not sure why me not clicking your link triggered anger in you.  I try not to do that anywhere on the web.  That wasn't a personal insult.  I even asked you to post the pic or the list.

 

Understand the difference between insults and terse responses.  If I feel I have something new to add, I will try.  If not, it's useless to post the same things over and over.  If you think I was being insulting, let me know and I will apologize.  I thought we were having a good back and forth but I guess I was wrong.


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#62 DanishLakerFan

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Posted June 08, 2018 - 09:46 PM

Misquote?  About Randle.

 

You qualified your statement about moving young players (because of fit).  That happens every year also.  Again, stop the madness saying it shouldn't or doesn't.

 

You made a case for Ingram's stats being on a star trajectory and I refuted that by pointing out the flaw.  You see what you want to in those stats and ignore the players who have those stats and are not stars.  You didn't make a case for him being special.  You made a case for him being a good role player.  Versatility?  LOL...Draymond is versatile also.  If you think that's the type of star Ingram will be, that confirms what I've said.  You aren't building a winner around a player that doesn't have a legit special aspect to his game.

 

Take Giannis...he's versatile but he's also 6'10-6'11 with handles of a SG/SF and the passing skills of a combo guard, all while being an ELITE athlete and defender.  That's special.  That's not Ingram.

 

I'm not sure why me not clicking your link triggered anger in you.  I try not to do that anywhere on the web.  That wasn't a personal insult.  I even asked you to post the pic or the list.

 

Understand the difference between insults and terse responses.  If I feel I have something new to add, I will try.  If not, it's useless to post the same things over and over.  If you think I was being insulting, let me know and I will apologize.  I thought we were having a good back and forth but I guess I was wrong.

 

Didn't misquote you on Randle.

 

You didn't point up any flaw other than said i was a liar because i said he didn't have any real weaknesses. Its fair i suppose that you aren't a stat-guy, but comparing sophomore BI to current version of Giannis really underline our differences. I strongly believe in player development and normal development trajectories and BI doesn't stand out in a negative way in any area which is why i think he is extremely likely to follow a normal development curve which would make him a really REALLY good player in his 3rd or 4th season. His combination of skills and tools at that age really is extremely rare.



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Posted June 14, 2018 - 02:03 PM

Didn't misquote you on Randle.

 

You didn't point up any flaw other than said i was a liar because i said he didn't have any real weaknesses. Its fair i suppose that you aren't a stat-guy, but comparing sophomore BI to current version of Giannis really underline our differences. I strongly believe in player development and normal development trajectories and BI doesn't stand out in a negative way in any area which is why i think he is extremely likely to follow a normal development curve which would make him a really REALLY good player in his 3rd or 4th season. His combination of skills and tools at that age really is extremely rare.

 

Agree to disagree.


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