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#1761 DaSmoothOperator

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Posted March 13, 2018 - 06:03 PM

Yo CP3 is not needed we need marksmen that can D not a close to over the hill PG whatcha gonna do with Ball then not well thought out imo.

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#1762 Tensai

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Posted March 13, 2018 - 06:13 PM

If we stretch Deng's contract, sign PG and considering Julius and IT's cap holds, we have about $17.2m in cap space left. Good enough for KCP.

 

Offer Julius whatever his market price is and keep him. Offer IT 2 year deal with player option on the 2nd year, and 3 year deal for KCP with team option.

 

Ball / IT

KCP / Some rookie with CLE pick

Ingram / Hart

George / Kuzma

Randle / Zubac

 

 

Nice rotation IMO.


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Posted March 13, 2018 - 06:26 PM

Lmao fool you’re over analyzing the [expletive] out of this. I don’t desire any response, I literally asked the entire forum who they prefer...pick whoever you want.
I prefer 27 year old AD over 33 year old LeBron. My question is if they both want to come, who do you pick. It’s that simple, make your pick, discuss it if you want and move the hell on lol.
It’s a hypothetical, no [expletive] it’s not realistic.

It's a question designed to force a specific response. All you asked was a 27 year old star vs 33 year old star. Any logical thinking fan would choose a 27 year old star in 2020 over a 33 year old star this offseason given the current age of our roster and current state of the nba.

I didn't over analyze anything. You framed the question so that AD would be the obvious choice.

However, the reality of the situation is that we don't even know if AD will be a free agent in 2020.

The "pass on Bron" thing is getting silly.

Who would you rather have RIGHT NOW...Lebron and it's not even close!

Edited by KidRN, March 13, 2018 - 06:32 PM.


#1764 DeeZee

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Posted March 13, 2018 - 06:36 PM

Paul George (groin) didn't return on Tuesday after leaving with 4:49 remaining in the third quarter, and he'll be re-evaluated in OKC on Wednesday.
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Posted March 13, 2018 - 06:42 PM

AD is the obvious choice. I don’t need to frame it any way for someone logical to see that. You said it yourself. If someone said LeBron, I would’ve been curious to hear their take because I obviously disagree.

I didn’t ask who you’d rather have right now. I asked if you’d rather have LeBron at 33 next season or Davis at 27 in 2020. Your issue is with the facts of the situation and that I presented an avenue for people to “pass on LeBron,” albeit hypothetical.

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Posted March 13, 2018 - 06:44 PM

AD is the obvious choice. I don’t need to frame it any way for someone logical to see that. You said it yourself. If someone said LeBron, I would’ve been curious to hear their take because I obviously disagree.
I didn’t ask who you’d rather have right now. I asked if you’d rather have LeBron at 33 next season or Davis at 27 in 2020. Your issue is with the facts of the situation and that I presented an avenue for people to “pass on LeBron,” albeit hypothetical.

Ok Bron this offseason or AD coming off of breaking every bone in his body in 2020?

It's pretty easy to force a specific response.

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Posted March 13, 2018 - 06:49 PM

Ok Bron this offseason or AD coming off of breaking every bone in his body in 2020?

It's pretty easy to force a specific response.


Except all I stated was their ages...actual facts. Not unlikely scenarios such as AD breaking every bone in his body.

Go watch the game, man. Lol. I’m outta here.

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Posted March 13, 2018 - 07:03 PM

Except all I stated was their ages...actual facts. 

 

Your issue is with the facts of the situation and that I presented an avenue for people to “pass on LeBron,” albeit hypothetical.

 

 

You mean like the FACT that AD may not even be a free agent in 2020 or do FACTS only matter when you present them?

 

 

Not unlikely scenarios such as AD breaking every bone in his body.

Go watch the game, man. Lol. I’m outta here.

 

 

Age of AD/Bron plus our young guys being further in development. It isn't only the age of AD and Bron, there are other factors at play here that have nothing to do with AD and Bron. The development of our youth is actually the biggest factor in this equation.

The "hypothetical" was presented simply to make it seem logical to pass on Bron, which it is not and never will be.


Edited by KidRN, March 13, 2018 - 07:05 PM.


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Posted March 13, 2018 - 07:05 PM

Lol

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Posted March 13, 2018 - 07:27 PM

If AD signs his extension, tough luck, but I see no indication he will and as of today he’ll be a FA in a couple of years. Dude has come out and said he wants to win and doesn’t want to end up like previous stars who haven’t.

It’s impossible for either of us to predict the landscape of the league in 2 years, but right now AD is projected to be a free agent and his recent comments have indicated he is open to testing the market.

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Posted March 13, 2018 - 09:20 PM

HILARIOUS.

To answer your question, I am taking AD in 2020 at 27 years of age.

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Posted March 13, 2018 - 09:34 PM

don't we have IT's bird rights? We can technically have a squad of randle, lebron, pg, ball, it, ingram, kuzma, hart. (IF WE SHED DENG)

 

We'll go over luxury tax and still have MLE.


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Posted March 13, 2018 - 10:06 PM

If we stretch Deng's contract, sign PG and considering Julius and IT's cap holds, we have about $17.2m in cap space left. Good enough for KCP.

Offer Julius whatever his market price is and keep him. Offer IT 2 year deal with player option on the 2nd year, and 3 year deal for KCP with team option.

Ball / IT
KCP / Some rookie with CLE pick
Ingram / Hart
George / Kuzma
Randle / Zubac


Nice rotation IMO.


I don’t see any point to bringing KCP back if we get George. Waste of money and assets. Why resign KCP and play George and Randle out of position

I’d rather sign George, IT, and Randle and save the KCP money

Playing George at PF isn’t sensible long term, and George doesn’t come here if the lakers pitch him starting at PF, he’ll go elsewhere
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Posted March 13, 2018 - 10:13 PM

If we stretch Deng's contract, sign PG and considering Julius and IT's cap holds, we have about $17.2m in cap space left. Good enough for KCP.

 

Offer Julius whatever his market price is and keep him. Offer IT 2 year deal with player option on the 2nd year, and 3 year deal for KCP with team option.

 

Ball / IT

KCP / Some rookie with CLE pick

Ingram / Hart

George / Kuzma

Randle / Zubac

 

 

Nice rotation IMO.

 

I think KCP would take that, but perhaps he's not the ideal target for LA if we "only" get Paul George.

 

Bring back IT, Randle and Lopez on decent deals, then try to turn Deng into something productive.


Edited by DanishLakerFan, March 13, 2018 - 10:14 PM.


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Posted March 13, 2018 - 10:15 PM

I would rather pay brook lopez than kcp, i think were underestimating the importance of a big man even though we play small ball

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Posted March 13, 2018 - 10:26 PM

I would rather pay brook lopez than kcp, i think were underestimating the importance of a big man even though we play small ball

 

I agree, but one doesn't necessarily rule out the other.

 

What kind of contracts are these guys looking for?


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Posted March 13, 2018 - 10:46 PM

I don't agree with you guys. While Lopez is indeed contributing, he is 30, while KCP is only 24 and is same generation as other young Lakers. If I were the Lakers GM, I would have hard time taking a risk for Lopez over taking a risk for KCP.

 

Now, I can understand the hesitation to sign KCP over Lopez due to positional changes, however, to me it seems like Randle will have a career at 5 rather than 4 in this league. I don't believe expecting Randle to develop a consistent 3-point shot is a realistic goal. He is becoming an absolute nightmare in the paint area. Therefore, shifting him to 5 and having PG play 4 could happen. It should be noted that in an offense where the ball moves constantly it doesn't matter if PG is 3 or 4. The defense would be something else but with Ingram, Ball, and KCP we would be switching constantly most of the time so I don't foresee PG getting bruised for playing 4 over long periods of time. And having Kuzma off the bench makes another difference as we would have PG, Ingram, Kuzma that could play 3-4 at any lineup - valuable versatility IMO.


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Posted March 13, 2018 - 11:16 PM

I don't agree with you guys. While Lopez is indeed contributing, he is 30, while KCP is only 24 and is same generation as other young Lakers. If I were the Lakers GM, I would have hard time taking a risk for Lopez over taking a risk for KCP.

 

Now, I can understand the hesitation to sign KCP over Lopez due to positional changes, however, to me it seems like Randle will have a career at 5 rather than 4 in this league. I don't believe expecting Randle to develop a consistent 3-point shot is a realistic goal. He is becoming an absolute nightmare in the paint area. Therefore, shifting him to 5 and having PG play 4 could happen. It should be noted that in an offense where the ball moves constantly it doesn't matter if PG is 3 or 4. The defense would be something else but with Ingram, Ball, and KCP we would be switching constantly most of the time so I don't foresee PG getting bruised for playing 4 over long periods of time. And having Kuzma off the bench makes another difference as we would have PG, Ingram, Kuzma that could play 3-4 at any lineup - valuable versatility IMO.

 

Sure. But if we get Paul George i think Lopez still fills a bigger need than KCP and he's probably a lot more willing to settle into a cap friendly deal given his age and all.

 

Lakers would be able to sign George to a max and sign Brook to a deal starting at about 10M without waiving or trading Deng.

AND they'd be able to bring back Randle and IT.

AND they'd have the room exception worth about 4.4M.

 

Maybe flip Deng and draft considerations for a player that actually can contribute - Wes Matthews or DeMarre Carroll. Could probably flip him for Allen Crabbe for next to nothing. Crabbe isn't the defender that KCP is, but he's an amazing shooter.



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Posted March 13, 2018 - 11:22 PM

Yeah. Probably I'm at minority here. I just like how KCP turned it around last couple of months. He's become a real difference maker.


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Posted March 13, 2018 - 11:43 PM

KCP has been solid lately, but he’s still frustrating at times and i wouldn’t mind giving extra minutes to someone like Hart. Randle and Lopez really fit well together as the 4-5 with Randle moving to the 5 with the second unit and i would hate to break that up. I guess it comes down to what kind of deal Lopez and KCP are wiling to take and what they can do with Deng.  


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