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#61 GCMD

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Posted November 08, 2017 - 05:18 AM

Randle's max is 5yrs, 150M. But he's not getting that much.

 

Not from us or anyone else, because they can't offer the 5 years. 

 

IMO Randle is worth right around 15M/yr.

 

I could see a team with cap space offering him a short-term max - e.g. 2yrs, 50M - which would make it tough for Lakers to match.

 

We can't offer 15M unless we miss out on 2 max contracts.

If Randle continues to play the way he has, he will get no less than 15M/yr as an offer...and I don't think he turns it down unless we land LBJ and LBJ personally recruits Randle to stay...not likely.

 

IMHO, Randle is headed to somewhere in Texas or ATL.  Not sure how it happens but it feels that way right now.


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Posted November 08, 2017 - 05:26 AM

Can Bron play the type of D Randle has shown recently.

If he continues this play... i rather add Avery Bradley .

nice troll bait. Lmao randle over lebron
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Posted November 08, 2017 - 09:32 AM

It's called Amnesty

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Posted November 08, 2017 - 09:38 AM

Lakers, just give up, use your amnesty provision, foot the bill, learn from this lesson, watch Luol Deng get a massive lump sum Tor nothing, and never pull this [expletive] again.

If Cleveland won't give us Crowder and a pick, if Philly won't give us Okafor and a pick for Deng and Randle, foot the [expletive]ing bill and amnesty Deng and sign Randle to a short term extension.

It's not rocket science Pelinka.

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Posted November 08, 2017 - 09:51 AM

We don't have an amnesty clause though....


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Posted November 08, 2017 - 10:26 AM

We can't offer 15M unless we miss out on 2 max contracts.

If Randle continues to play the way he has, he will get no less than 15M/yr as an offer...and I don't think he turns it down unless we land LBJ and LBJ personally recruits Randle to stay...not likely.

 

IMHO, Randle is headed to somewhere in Texas or ATL.  Not sure how it happens but it feels that way right now.

Sure. I wasn't really arguing what Lakers should do, but rather what he was worth.


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Posted November 08, 2017 - 10:35 AM

And by the way, we can afford Randle's short term contract.

After we get rid of Deng's contract somehow, Jordan Clarkson is the only player under contract.

"For the 2017–18 season, the latest projection is $99 million for the salary cap and $113 million for the luxury tax limit."

Teams can also go over the cap but would have to pay $1 into the luxury tax for everything dollar they go over, and that goes up the higher into the luxury tax they go, and it gets even higher for repeat offenders.

So J.C. is making 12.5-14M per season currently. We can still afford 2 max players which will put us at $65M let's say, and another $15M guy which puts us at $90M. We probably will need enough room for 2 more $15M players in addition to that, and in the short term go into the luxury tax to make payments until we figure things out.

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Posted November 08, 2017 - 10:35 AM

It's called Amnesty

 

No amnesty in the last CBA because of the cap rise.  But yea if there was one that would obviously be the easiest solution.  But then again that would mean every other team would have one as well so there would be a lot more teams with max cap space this summer.  Kind of a wash.   



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Posted November 08, 2017 - 10:37 AM

And by the way, we can afford Randle's short term contract.

After we get rid of Deng's contract somehow, Jordan Clarkson is the only player under contract.

"For the 2017–18 season, the latest projection is $99 million for the salary cap and $113 million for the luxury tax limit."

Teams can also go over the cap but would have to pay $1 into the luxury tax for everything dollar they go over, and that goes up the higher into the luxury tax they go, and it gets even higher for repeat offenders.

So J.C. is making 12.5-14M per season currently. We can still afford 2 max players which will put us at $65M let's say, and another $15M guy which puts us at $90M. We probably will need enough room for 2 more $15M players in addition to that, and in the short term go into the luxury tax to make payments until we figure things out.

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Huh?



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Posted November 08, 2017 - 10:37 AM

No amnesty provision in the new CBA...


[expletive] it, pay his contract outright

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Posted November 08, 2017 - 10:40 AM

Jordan Clarkson signed a 4 year / $50,000,000 contract with the Los Angeles Lakers, including $50,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $12,500,000.

I do think Philly might bite on Deng if we throw in Randle and a pick, and we still get Okafor out of it.

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Posted November 08, 2017 - 10:40 AM

No amnesty provision in the new CBA...


[expletive] it, pay his contract outright

 

Waive him you mean?  Salary doesn't come off the books in that case.  



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Posted November 08, 2017 - 10:41 AM

JC other than Deng is the only Lakers with a significant long term contract is what I meant.
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Posted November 08, 2017 - 10:42 AM

Bundle him with Randle throw in a pick and send him to Cleveland or Philly for Crowder or Okafor.

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Posted November 08, 2017 - 10:44 AM

Jordan Clarkson signed a 4 year / $50,000,000 contract with the Los Angeles Lakers, including $50,000,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $12,500,000.

I do think Philly might bite on Deng if we throw in Randle and a pick, and we still get Okafor out of it.

 

Yes Clarkson is under contract for next season.  As well as Ingram, Ball, Nance, Kuzma, and Hart.  Ennis, Zubac, and Bryant also have team options.  And also Randle's cap hold.  



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Posted November 08, 2017 - 10:57 AM

I understand except Clarkson's is a lot higher

Let Deng's contract be a lesson to the Lakers and the league about signing stupid contracts.

Just pay the luxury tax if there isn't a single team that will take him from us regardless of what it's bundled in with, altho Randle and a pick is the absolute most that should it should be bundled in with.

Don't worry kiddos, it'll work out

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Posted November 08, 2017 - 11:28 AM

No amnesty provision in the new CBA...


[expletive] it, pay his contract outright

 

That's going to happen regardless, with no improvement on the cap hit of his contract. The only way the Lakers can change the cap hit is by stretching the contract out by five years, reducing the per year cap hit to about $8 million per over five years


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Posted November 08, 2017 - 12:36 PM

And by the way, we can afford Randle's short term contract.

After we get rid of Deng's contract somehow, Jordan Clarkson is the only player under contract.

"For the 2017–18 season, the latest projection is $99 million for the salary cap and $113 million for the luxury tax limit."

Teams can also go over the cap but would have to pay $1 into the luxury tax for everything dollar they go over, and that goes up the higher into the luxury tax they go, and it gets even higher for repeat offenders.

So J.C. is making 12.5-14M per season currently. We can still afford 2 max players which will put us at $65M let's say, and another $15M guy which puts us at $90M. We probably will need enough room for 2 more $15M players in addition to that, and in the short term go into the luxury tax to make payments until we figure things out.

Sorry Jeanie Bus, owning sports teams is expensive. Use that sponsorship money from Wish and Time Warner and Nike to offset these costs.

 

Randle's cap hold is $12.4M

 

If the FO wants to keep him we'll have $38.5M to spend. Not enough for 2 max contracts

If we renounce Randle cap space for free agents goes up to $50.5M. Still not enough to max out PG and Lebron

 

All this assuming of course that Zubac, Bryant, KCP & Lopez are gone


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Posted November 08, 2017 - 01:21 PM

Bundle him with Randle throw in a pick and send him to Cleveland or Philly for Crowder or Okafor.

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So they pay 18 mil for a pick, a guy who can’t get off the bench and the opportunity to pay randle... AND give up a player... I don’t see it ... it’s gonna be a stretch

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Posted November 08, 2017 - 01:24 PM

Randle's cap hold is $12.4M

If the FO wants to keep him we'll have $38.5M to spend. Not enough for 2 max contracts
If we renounce Randle cap space for free agents goes up to $50.5M. Still not enough to max out PG and Lebron

All this assuming of course that Zubac, Bryant, KCP & Lopez are gone


At this point... I say keep randle, stretch Deng ... go after 1 max player.

For the moment ... I think we may overachieve.

My thinking is our natural progression will match up with golden states natural decline.

of course it’s still early and I could be singing a different tune come feb




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