You didn't follow much of what was said.
It's possible i missed some stuff.
Pretty much everybody understands that Ingram cannot be traded for Lebron straight-up. Ingram would be a (center-)piece of the deal.
My contention with this is trading ingram. doesn't matter what pieces are involved. Lebron will be a free agent next year. absolutely no need to trade him when we can sign him and keep a future all-star.
And again, you don't trade Ingram away if you have cap room. I think everyone gets that. And it keeps being said over and over, yet people keep feeling the need to point it out.
What you do consider, however, is trading Ingram if you have other guys coming on board, and hence, your cap room gets used up.
tbh i keep seeing ingram-lbj without any mention of cap space so yeah, i can see why we keep repeating ourselves. also, this makes it seem like ingram is being used for salary cap relief which is beyond dumb. almost impossible to get a player with his upside and production for less than 6 million through 2020. ingram would be the last piece used to make some room, even if we have bonafide all-stars and superstars trying to sign with us.
Whether that is trading Ingram in a deal for Lebron, or for Cousins, or for George, or for Wall, it doesn't matter. Even if you free up cap room to sign 2 max players, if a third guy wants to come and your only option is a sign and trade, then Ingram is on the table.
in a vacuum this makes sense but the reality is no where close to that. Lebron, cousins, George, and Westbrook haven't signed their extensions yet and will all be free agents next year. you could say that one of those players would rather be in a sign and trade so we get their bird rights but no combination of players is worth giving up ingram to get their bird rights. if they want to form that superteam and win in LA, they can't have their cake and eat it too. and if you're going to pick up three all stars from free agency, wouldn't you rather, and wouldn't they also want to play with a fourth all-star in ingram? he's not there yet but the writing is on the wall. it's only a matter of time now. finally, if a third guy comes, how/why would our only option be a sign and trade? do a sign and trade to go over our cap? why not have those three guys take a small paycut to form that superteam like every other super team has done, to get em all in. cap is going up and if we can lose clarkson, deng, that's an additional 28-30 million.
Especially if you are talking about Lebron being one of the pieces.
If is 100% fathomable that a player (through his agent) communicates to LA a willingness to sign with them, if they acquire (whether through a sign and trade, or signing a player outright) certain other players. This stuff happens pretty regularly. It's complicated, which is why it doesn't happen all the time, but it's still discussed.
Even though the history gets distorted, some of you will remember that part of Carmelo's interest in signing with LA, was the prospect that Lebron would come, too. Lebron, though, didn't take a meeting. Melo re-signed with the Knicks.
You do what it takes to bring in the best talent available. true