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#281 kball

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Posted August 09, 2017 - 06:53 AM

Pau and McHale is a pretty close comparison imo.

I'd give Gasol a slight edge for less injury prone and a longer run. Much more willing passer. Had a left hand too. McHale didnt

 

I think any list would have to have Elvin Hayes and Elgin Baylor in the top 6.

Baylor being similar in size to barkley


Edited by kball, August 09, 2017 - 06:54 AM.

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Posted August 09, 2017 - 06:57 AM

Pau and McHale is a pretty close comparison imo.
I'd give Gasol a slight edge for less injury prone and a longer run. Much more willing passer. Had a left hand too. McHale didnt
 
I think any list would have to have Elvin Hayes and Elgin Baylor in the top 6.
Baylor being similar in size to barkley

I think McHale was better but just my opinion.
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#283 kball

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Posted August 09, 2017 - 06:57 AM

Draymond? No. Not yet.

And since when did Robinson and Hakeem become PF's?

Kevin Love?

Wtf is going on in here lmao.

Apparently since the around the same time Unseld and Jerry Lucas did.

 

Trivia note: Unseld won ROTY and MVP in his rookie year i think.

Thats a pretty tough double win there. Think the last guy to do that


Edited by kball, August 09, 2017 - 07:00 AM.

Praying for  1. Youngsters Ballin (Didn't really happen on a consistent basis at all) 2. Miracle Trade (Also didn't happen. And we traded our best player for chump change) 3. Kick Ass Rooks (Zubac exceeded, Ingram tried but disappointed overall)

READY FOR SEASON TO BE OVER!!!

 

 


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Posted August 09, 2017 - 09:33 AM

Pau and McHale is a pretty close comparison imo.

I'd give Gasol a slight edge for less injury prone and a longer run. Much more willing passer. Had a left hand too. McHale didnt

 

I think any list would have to have Elvin Hayes and Elgin Baylor in the top 6.

Baylor being similar in size to barkley

 

McHale played on a broken foot in '87 because he wanted to win a title.

 

Pau fell apart in the 2011 play-offs due to emotional difficulties.

 

Pau is highly-skilled, but McHale had superior low-post moves over-all.

 

I'm giving McHale the advantage and saying that like many guys, he'd have a much longer career if he played in the modern era. 


Edited by UKUGA, August 10, 2017 - 04:17 AM.

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Posted August 09, 2017 - 09:49 AM

I'll never understand why Lakers fans act like Pau wasn't something serious.  08-10 Pau was an ELITE nba player.  

 

It's kind of funny in the midst of all the Lebron/Kyrie ish the same rules apply.  Guys like Shaq, Kobe, MJ and Lebron have been so good individually that people downplay how good their teammates were.  Shaq had this effect on Kobe, Lebron had this effect on Bosh and now Kyrie and Kobe to some extent Pau.  

 

You swap out Pau with anybody less than KG or Tim Duncan in 08-10 the Lakers do not win rings.  Pau may have only avg 18/10 but he made that offense elite.  

 

Respect that man.  He didn't/doesnt have to be KG, Tim Duncan or even Dirk to be considered all time.  He's every bit as good or better than Kevin McHale, James Worthy was.  


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Posted August 09, 2017 - 08:01 PM

I'll never understand why Lakers fans act like Pau wasn't something serious.  08-10 Pau was an ELITE nba player.  

 

It's kind of funny in the midst of all the Lebron/Kyrie ish the same rules apply.  Guys like Shaq, Kobe, MJ and Lebron have been so good individually that people downplay how good their teammates were.  Shaq had this effect on Kobe, Lebron had this effect on Bosh and now Kyrie and Kobe to some extent Pau.  

 

You swap out Pau with anybody less than KG or Tim Duncan in 08-10 the Lakers do not win rings.  Pau may have only avg 18/10 but he made that offense elite.  

 

Respect that man.  He didn't/doesnt have to be KG, Tim Duncan or even Dirk to be considered all time.  He's every bit as good or better than Kevin McHale, James Worthy was.  

 

 

I'm a Pau FAN.  Loved his game and wish he didn't leave.

 

That said, top 10 PF All Time?  We can discuss it but it's far from being a sure-thing.


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Posted August 10, 2017 - 07:42 PM

Honestly Zach Randolph is very comparable with Pau IMO, I'm really big on how players perform as alpha dogs on their team. Randolph led his team to the western conference finals with the Grizzlies, Webber was the best player on one of the greatest non champions of all time, come on now. Even McHale won a game in the playoffs on his last legs the year Bird gets injured. Pau was a skilled player but if he never played with Kobe there wouldn't be much discussion
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Posted August 11, 2017 - 04:26 AM

Honestly Zach Randolph is very comparable with Pau IMO, I'm really big on how players perform as alpha dogs on their team. Randolph led his team to the western conference finals with the Grizzlies, Webber was the best player on one of the greatest non champions of all time, come on now. Even McHale won a game in the playoffs on his last legs the year Bird gets injured. Pau was a skilled player but if he never played with Kobe there wouldn't be much discussion

 

 

Exactly...some of the kids here (younger than 35) don't remember Webber, Z-Bo and McHale in their primes.  IMHO, Webber is one of the greatest PFs to never win a ring...in their primes, Webber was clearly a better player than Pau - same skills (handles, shooting, passing) and basketball IQ with more athleticism, speed and toughness.


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Posted August 11, 2017 - 05:12 AM

Bron calling LA home...


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Posted August 11, 2017 - 10:01 AM

Webber made the single most boneheaded play in a championship game of all time, one that ended up costing his team a national championship. I'd lay off the high basketball IQ take.

Exactly...some of the kids here (younger than 35) don't remember Webber, Z-Bo and McHale in their primes. IMHO, Webber is one of the greatest PFs to never win a ring...in their primes, Webber was clearly a better player than Pau - same skills (handles, shooting, passing) and basketball IQ with more athleticism, speed and toughness.


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Posted August 12, 2017 - 05:20 AM

Webber made the single most boneheaded play in a championship game of all time, one that ended up costing his team a national championship. I'd lay off the high basketball IQ take.
 

 

Meh.

 

Let's hold one error a guy made at 19 against him for the rest of his life. Classy.  

 

There was an assistant coach on the bench signaling for time out, as well.  

 

I was impressed at the way he owned up to his mistake.  


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Posted August 12, 2017 - 10:00 AM

Poor C Webb.

He was also the one lunging at Horry for that game winning 3 Vlade assisted on


Edited by kball, August 12, 2017 - 10:00 AM.

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Praying for  1. Youngsters Ballin (Didn't really happen on a consistent basis at all) 2. Miracle Trade (Also didn't happen. And we traded our best player for chump change) 3. Kick Ass Rooks (Zubac exceeded, Ingram tried but disappointed overall)

READY FOR SEASON TO BE OVER!!!

 

 


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Posted August 13, 2017 - 01:02 PM

Webber made the single most boneheaded play in a championship game of all time, one that ended up costing his team a national championship. I'd lay off the high basketball IQ take.
 

 

 

Yes because if you make a mistake in the National Championship in college, you can NEVER have high basketball IQ...NE-VER...

 

LOL...get outta here, breh...one play in college doesn't define a player's aptitude.  This is another example of someone fishing for an excuse to disagree.


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Posted August 14, 2017 - 01:19 PM

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Happy birthday @MagicJohnson!! One of the few that's always showed love from day 1 to me! Thank you. Enjoy your day!!

Don't wanna jump to conclusions, but I think we just signed LeBron.
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#295 kball

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Posted August 14, 2017 - 02:52 PM

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Happy birthday @MagicJohnson!! One of the few that's always showed love from day 1 to me! Thank you. Enjoy your day!!

Don't wanna jump to conclusions, but I think we just signed LeBron to a multi year contract.

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Praying for  1. Youngsters Ballin (Didn't really happen on a consistent basis at all) 2. Miracle Trade (Also didn't happen. And we traded our best player for chump change) 3. Kick Ass Rooks (Zubac exceeded, Ingram tried but disappointed overall)

READY FOR SEASON TO BE OVER!!!

 

 


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Posted August 15, 2017 - 07:04 AM

As much as I would love to see it I just cant see LeBron leaving again



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Posted August 15, 2017 - 07:55 AM

As much as I would love to see it I just cant see LeBron leaving again

I can...however, he could likely compete if he stays in Cleveland. Get rid of Love and take a pay cut to bring in another star. Meanwhile, Klay probably leaves GS making them easier to beat. People underrate Klay's impact imo.
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Posted August 15, 2017 - 08:41 AM

Ehh he's still the most replaceable of the bunch though.  They'd still have the best PG, KD and arguably best defensive player in the league with pieces that fit them.  Getting rid of Klay just allows them to balance the team out more financially and may give way to a cheaper option to impact as well. 

 

I can...however, he could likely compete if he stays in Cleveland. Get rid of Love and take a pay cut to bring in another star. Meanwhile, Klay probably leaves GS making them easier to beat. People underrate Klay's impact imo.


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Posted August 15, 2017 - 08:47 AM

Ehh he's still the most replaceable of the bunch though.  They'd still have the best PG, KD and arguably best defensive player in the league with pieces that fit them.  Getting rid of Klay just allows them to balance the team out more financially and may give way to a cheaper option to impact as well.

He's certainly the most replaceable but his D and 3pt ability will still be hard to replace.
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Posted August 15, 2017 - 09:03 AM

People underrate Klay's impact imo.

Agreed... Klay is one of the most underrated players in the game; he gets overlooked playing alongside Curry, KD and Dray...I don't think people understand Klay's importance to GS. Klay doesn't need the ball or the spotlight, the dude is a straight sniper whose solid D helps hide Curry's nonexistent D. Klay on almost any other team would average 25+ ppg.

 

Come on down Klay, all damn day.

 

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