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#21 bfc1125roy

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Posted April 15, 2017 - 09:45 AM

Guys, relax. Phil is just trying to motivate Porizingis through the media, the same way he's done for years. This is no different, he's just playing his games.



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Posted April 15, 2017 - 10:20 AM

In all my years of watching basketball I don't remember a general manager so publicly opposed to his best player, it's honestly amazing to see. Melo is clearly lacking in key areas for a franchise player and I can definitely understand why gee frustrates Phil so much but the way he's went about this is all wrong. He's killed his trade value for one and he's made Melo want to make it impossible for him to trade him with how obvious Phil is making it in terms of trying to force him out.

Maybe the biggest thing that Phil is doing is alienating potential free agents with how they might be treated and it's probably even spread to some of the young guns on the team like Porzingis.


Its already spread to Porzingis. They said he blew off his exit meetings because he was pissed off with the front office.

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Posted April 15, 2017 - 12:49 PM

The ONLY reason why I'd do it is to get out of Deng's contract.  I dont see Melo being a net positive or any rebuilding team especially not this one.  

 

So heres a question. If Deng for Melo was offered would you take it? I could see Phil possibly making that trade too. 1 less year on Melo's contract and is a much better player. I'm not sure he would fit in that great but it would be a big upgrade to Deng of course. Worse case scenario his contract is one year less.


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Posted April 15, 2017 - 01:03 PM

The ONLY reason why I'd do it is to get out of Deng's contract.  I dont see Melo being a net positive or any rebuilding team especially not this one.  

My plan would be trade deng for melo. Show case melo for most of the season to up his rock bottom trade value right now as much as possible. Then try hard at the deadline to trade him to a contender for expiring contracts. Then we roll into FA with cap room for PG and another max contract. Going into that FA with as much cap space as possible should be the lakers #1 priority. 



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Posted April 15, 2017 - 08:39 PM

My plan would be trade deng for melo. Show case melo for most of the season to up his rock bottom trade value right now as much as possible. Then try hard at the deadline to trade him to a contender for expiring contracts. Then we roll into FA with cap room for PG and another max contract. Going into that FA with as much cap space as possible should be the lakers #1 priority. 

 

Why would the Knicks ever make that deal?



#26 bigfetz

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Posted April 15, 2017 - 09:23 PM

Why would the Knicks ever make that deal?

Well they don't have much leverage. Phil basically announced they intend to trade him and that they don't think he is a good player. Also Melo has a NTC that prevents Knicks from trading anywhere. Really not that many options for Knicks to pick from and I could see phil biting on a player like Deng.



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Posted April 16, 2017 - 07:22 AM

I don't want Melo but in his defense I don't understand why he gets bashed so much.  You'd think he's fallen off or something and he's putting up pretty good numbers.  No different than the last couple years.  Melo has been the same player for a while people just put these unrealistic expectations on him and bash him when he doesn't live up to them.  Sorry, can't all be generational superstars.  People criticize him for never winning but if you give him the supporting cast that Earl Monroe or Paul Pierce had people would be singing a different tune.  Basketball is a team game.   



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Posted April 16, 2017 - 07:49 AM

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Dolan should have cut ties with Phil instead of opting in for the last 2 years of his deal.  Knicks being the Knicks.  



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Posted April 16, 2017 - 03:59 PM

Phil just comitted career suicide

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Posted April 16, 2017 - 05:03 PM

Maybe Melo just needs a change of scenery.  I can't really blame him for everything that has happened with that Knicks franchise.  Sure he has been far from the Melo we saw in his prime with the Nuggets.  However, the Knicks have easily been one of the most poorly ran franchise in basketball for some time now and a change will indeed help Melo in my opinion.



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Posted April 16, 2017 - 09:35 PM

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Would be interesting if Phil gets fined for this. NBA will of course not wasnt to do this becuase it will further the story and cause a lot of head aches but if NBPA doesn't let up you could see a lot more headaches for Phil. 



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Posted April 17, 2017 - 12:03 AM

All of New York is just praying for Dolan to take a wrong step and get outed like Sterling.

Even if Phil is sabotaging his job there in New York and just wants that organization to feel the backlash of making him the scapegoat, what type of owner lets this trash go on for so long?

They have Rose miss out on a game, they have guys like Hardaway and Jennings go and become valuable assets for other teams, and now their only hope in KP is outwardly showing how uncomfortable he is there. Not to mention they bring in a coach with a brilliant basketball mind and limit him to what Phil expects to be done, which confuses everyone.

Sucks for Melo. He was fun to watch in his prime but he's really wasted all his years jacking shots for a trash organization. I actually hope he finds his way to a team that can use him effectively.

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Posted April 17, 2017 - 01:26 PM

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Interesting to note: Today Phil said that Porzingis isn't ready to be "The Man" and he said KP isn't untouchable.

 

Don't know this person at all or how credible that quote is, but if there is some slight truth to that come on over Porzingis. Knicks imploding lol


Edited by Wilt Chamberneezy, April 17, 2017 - 01:28 PM.


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Posted April 19, 2017 - 08:06 AM

This methodology was so successful as a coach but as an executive he's doing the opposite of what he should be doing.  He's done a poor job transitioning.  Should be talking up Melo despite the fact that he intends to move him.  Should be talking up Porzingis even though he may in fact be too young to successfully lead a team right now.  As a GM trolling players and playing mind games in the media is blowing up in his face.  Keeping his mouth shut and not saying anything would be a huge improvement at this point.   


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Posted April 19, 2017 - 01:49 PM

I can't stand the micromanaging. You hired a coach, let the coach do the job.

Stop using the media to look dumb.

#36 MaceWindu

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Posted April 19, 2017 - 08:43 PM

Phillip being Phillip

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Posted April 25, 2017 - 10:08 PM

I've been a huge fan of Phil as a coach, right up until the time when we won that last ring.

 

I think his legacy is taking a major hit based on his actions and comments these past few years.






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