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#1 Ring Chaser

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Posted March 08, 2017 - 02:16 PM

Lakers Were Scrambling To Communicate Internally When Kings Traded Cousins

MAR 8, 2017 10:53 AM

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Magic Johnson fielded a call from Vlade Divac about the Los Angeles Lakers potential interest in trading for DeMarcus Cousins when the Sacramento Kings were looking to deal him.

Johnson said he wasn't empowered to make that type of decision and referred Divac to Mitch Kupchak. Johnson never heard another word from the Lakers' front office even when they engaged in trade talks with the Kings on Sunday, February 19th before Cousins was dealt.

Divac believed he had a narrow window to trade Cousins and had to act quickly. Kings' ownership had given approval for a Cousins' trade involving Buddy Hield and Brandon Ingram.

Divac and the New Orleans Pelicans had met four or five times in person by the time the Lakers got involved. Divac was negotiating over the phone with Jim Buss and Kupchak despite the fact Johnson was in New Orleans that weekend.

Jeanie Buss had previously instructed Kupchak and her brother that she was to be consulted if they discussed trades involving any of the Lakers' three recent lottery picks. 

Jeanie Buss only received work about the talks which involved two of those three lottery picks after Jim Buss called Jess Buss and pressed him for a recommendation. The offer also would quickly expire. Jesse Buss tried to text Jeanie Buss, but the deadline was fast approaching and the Kings finalized the Cousins' deal with the Pelicans before her and Johnson even knew about the Lakers' attempts.

The lack of communication on the Cousins trade reinforced why she had already made her decision to fire Kupchak and Jim Buss.

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#2 kball

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Posted March 08, 2017 - 02:24 PM

Or looked at another way. Sac got squat in return since Lakers weren't in the game.


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Posted March 08, 2017 - 02:38 PM

So it involved two of Russell/Randle/Ingram.

No thanks.
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#4 JGuez

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Posted March 08, 2017 - 03:04 PM

Jeanie said multiple times that basketball decisions were up to Mitch and Jim and that it didn't fall under her.

 

Her wanting to be in the loop contradicts what she would say to the public in terms of letting them do their job.

 

It would have been a bad deal for us anyways. Hield for Cousins is a no brainer, but our young guys hold more value than Hield.



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Posted March 08, 2017 - 07:39 PM

Kings made a crap trade. Lakers could have offered them a really good package that didnt include Russel or Ingram but Kings were dumb. Now they have the "Next Curry" lol. 



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Posted March 08, 2017 - 07:58 PM

Vlade had a very small window of opportunity to make a deal.

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Posted March 08, 2017 - 07:59 PM

I think it actually worked out for the best. Boogie has made a real difference in New Orleans, hasn't he? And we were supposed to give up two pieces of our young core?


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#8 GCMD

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Posted March 08, 2017 - 08:18 PM

What was the ask?  Ingram or Ingram AND?


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#9 MaceWindu

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Posted March 08, 2017 - 09:54 PM

Is this the better offer Divac claimed he had a few days prior?

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Posted March 08, 2017 - 11:00 PM

And the Lakers failed to pull the trigger; shameful. 

 

Another one that got away; very much akin to the Lowry trade. 


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Posted March 08, 2017 - 11:22 PM

I can imagine that it was Ingram AND Randle. No way would they give up both Russell and Ingram for Boogie.

 

This doesn't look good for the Lakers front office at all, but some of it actually does make some sense.

 

Jeanie wants to be consulted in case a major move happens (which makes sense).

Jim wanted Jess' recommendation in order to sell it to Jeanie (also makes sense).

Mitch and Jim not expecting Vlade to pull the trigger so early for [expletive]ing Scrubby Hield and a protected 1st rounder (again, that makes sense, becuase Vlade pulling the trigger made no sense)

 

The only thing that didn't make much sense was that Magic went over Jim and Mitch's head by contacting Vlade on a potential trade without having any authority to do so.



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Posted March 09, 2017 - 01:29 AM

Lmao. We're worse than the Knicks.



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Posted March 09, 2017 - 05:08 AM

 

 

The only thing that didn't make much sense was that Magic went over Jim and Mitch's head by contacting Vlade on a potential trade without having any authority to do so.

Did I misread the article? According to Shelburne, Magic fielded the call from Vlade--as in Vlade called Magic--and Magic referred him to Mitch/Jim because he wasn't empowered to make these type of decisions.


Edited by Piston Honda, March 09, 2017 - 05:08 AM.


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Posted March 09, 2017 - 11:40 AM

Cousins would be a Dwightmare part 2
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Posted March 09, 2017 - 01:22 PM

Love big men but I would have balked at Boogie anyway


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Posted March 09, 2017 - 01:28 PM

We're good, we got Moz.



#17 MaceWindu

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Posted March 10, 2017 - 07:55 AM

We're good, we got Moz.

 

 

 

Mitch with the great sense of urgency. lol



#18 DaSmoothOperator

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Posted March 10, 2017 - 07:55 PM

Lotsa what ifs, glad when June 22nd gets here

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Posted March 10, 2017 - 08:36 PM

Agree a pass on Cousins best for long term otherwise grasping at straws and T's lol

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Posted March 15, 2017 - 05:12 PM

If it got in the way of a Paul George deal, I say no.






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