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#541 DanishLakerFan

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Posted March 06, 2017 - 12:22 AM

 

 

Sophomore, coming out of a successful program. Has length, smooth jumper, can handle the ball, has high IQ. Has no apparent weakness. Perfect compliment to D'Angelo in backcourt. Why not go with this kid? I can see him being successful in NBA.

I dont know much about this kid, but he seems like a good gamble if we can get him in the 2nd round. Wouldn't draft him with the Houston pick though.



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Posted March 06, 2017 - 01:24 PM

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Posted March 06, 2017 - 01:27 PM

Dillon Brooks might be on there Radar

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Posted March 06, 2017 - 10:46 PM

Harry Giles have fallen to 25th on Draftexpress. If he's there with the Houston pick, i think he's the guy to take. Much like Skal Labissiere in 2016 this guy has a super high ceiling and a low floor.



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Posted March 07, 2017 - 01:11 AM

Harry Giles have fallen to 25th on Draftexpress. If he's there with the Houston pick, i think he's the guy to take. Much like Skal Labissiere in 2016 this guy has a super high ceiling and a low floor.

We must be watching different players... Giles isn't going to translate well and will be your run of the mill 4 that will likely struggle to find minutes in the NBA.

His game is very limited offensively (has nothing beyond 10 feet), his defense is subpar, and he can't hit free throws.

 

To top it all off, he's had a history of knee issues and has already partially tore his ACL... 

 

Caleb Swanigan (if we go big)

Dillon Brooks (if we're looking for a guard)


 


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Posted March 07, 2017 - 06:17 AM

We must be watching different players... Giles isn't going to translate well and will be your run of the mill 4 that will likely struggle to find minutes in the NBA.

His game is very limited offensively (has nothing beyond 10 feet), his defense is subpar, and he can't hit free throws.

 

To top it all off, he's had a history of knee issues and has already partially tore his ACL... 

 

Caleb Swanigan (if we go big)

Dillon Brooks (if we're looking for a guard)

 

 

I think those guys are somewhat interesting options and between those two i’d lean towards Dillon Brooks. Picking a PF like Swanigan doesn’t make too much sense with Randle and Nance (and Deng) on the team and he cant defend at all.

 

Harry Giles was projected to go in the top 5 – or even #1 – heading into the season. His stock has taken a dive of course which basically takes him out of the lottery, but the physical profile and raw talent is there, which is why i think he is worth a gamble late in the 1st round.



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Posted March 07, 2017 - 08:11 AM

Harry Giles was projected to go in the top 5 – or even #1 – heading into the season. His stock has taken a dive of course which basically takes him out of the lottery, but the physical profile and raw talent is there, which is why i think he is worth a gamble late in the 1st round.

Agreed, if we keep the pick (we dont trade it) and Giles is there, I would gamble on him, he was a considered a top 5 prospect until the injuries.... his knees however are a concern.



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Posted March 07, 2017 - 08:46 AM

Giles would be worth the gamble late.  His injury history is super concerning but healthy that dude was supposed to be a monster. 


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Posted March 07, 2017 - 09:21 AM

 

 

Sophomore, coming out of a successful program. Has length, smooth jumper, can handle the ball, has high IQ. Has no apparent weakness. Perfect compliment to D'Angelo in backcourt. Why not go with this kid? I can see him being successful in NBA.

 

 

 

He lacks any semblance of polished guard skills.  

 

He has trouble displaying advanced ball handling skills, perimeter footwork, change of direction and shot creation off the dribble.  He's a catch and shoot player on offense.  His guard skills are basically Randle level in the body of Nick Young.

 

Unless he shows a LOT of improvement in the next 3 months, he's going undrafted.


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Posted March 07, 2017 - 11:03 AM

I think those guys are somewhat interesting options and between those two i’d lean towards Dillon Brooks. Picking a PF like Swanigan doesn’t make too much sense with Randle and Nance (and Deng) on the team and he cant defend at all.

Harry Giles was projected to go in the top 5 – or even #1 – heading into the season. His stock has taken a dive of course which basically takes him out of the lottery, but the physical profile and raw talent is there, which is why i think he is worth a gamble late in the 1st round.

Swanigan actually has a jumpshot
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Posted March 07, 2017 - 12:14 PM

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Posted March 07, 2017 - 12:16 PM

Swanigan actually has a jumpshot

That's exactly why I would take him.  He's the only big within that range with a dependable jumper.  His weight is a slight concern but I'm sure with the proper nutrition, he has the chance to be pretty solid.

 

Giles makes no sense with Randle and Nance in the rotation already.



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Posted March 07, 2017 - 12:54 PM

Wouldn't mind Giles with the Houston pick.

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Posted March 07, 2017 - 03:41 PM

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Posted March 07, 2017 - 10:39 PM

Swanigan actually has a jumpshot

Sure, but he doesn't defend.

 

That's exactly why I would take him.  He's the only big within that range with a dependable jumper.  His weight is a slight concern but I'm sure with the proper nutrition, he has the chance to be pretty solid.

 

Giles makes no sense with Randle and Nance in the rotation already.

This is a good example of how we clearly have different drafting philosophies.

 

Towards the top you always go with BPA before addressing needs. Later in the draft you either fill specific needs or gamble on guys with upside.

 

Swanigan really doesn't have much upside and doesn't really fill a positional need with Randle, Nance and Deng at the 4.


Edited by DanishLakerFan, March 07, 2017 - 11:06 PM.


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Posted March 08, 2017 - 06:26 AM

Sure, but he doesn't defend.
 

This is a good example of how we clearly have different drafting philosophies.
 
Towards the top you always go with BPA before addressing needs. Later in the draft you either fill specific needs or gamble on guys with upside.
 
Swanigan really doesn't have much upside and doesn't really fill a positional need with Randle, Nance and Deng at the 4.

His jumpshot separates him from Randle and Nance. Why doesn't he have much upside? He has a chance to be a quality stretch 4 coming off the bench. This is something we really need.

Giles has potential but he's either gonna be a steal or out the league in a couple of years. We don't need to fish for stars with every draft pick. That is what our top 3 pick is for! We need to give Russell and Ingram a roster that makes sense. We have a direction now, unlike past years. You go BPA with the top 3 and fit with the others.

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Posted March 08, 2017 - 07:39 AM

His jumpshot separates him from Randle and Nance. Why doesn't he have much upside? He has a chance to be a quality stretch 4 coming off the bench. This is something we really need.

Giles has potential but he's either gonna be a steal or out the league in a couple of years. We don't need to fish for stars with every draft pick. That is what our top 3 pick is for! We need to give Russell and Ingram a roster that makes sense. We have a direction now, unlike past years. You go BPA with the top 3 and fit with the others.

I might be wrong with regards to Swanigan, who very well could be a fine stretch-4. I have major concerns with his ability to defend though and i think if we go by fit there are better options since the PF position is our deepest position.

 

Giles has potential and could either be a steal or a bust, that's true. But if he reach his potential, he's going to have a major impact on the future on the Lakers, whereas Swanigan's ceiling is... Troy Murphy? You can find that guy in free agency (Illyasova, Patrick Patterson, Ingles etc.)



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Posted March 08, 2017 - 07:47 AM

Free agency requires bigger contracts.  Late 1st round salary is like 1.1M.  You aren't getting those guys for less than 7-8M this offseason

 

I might be wrong with regards to Swanigan, who very well could be a fine stretch-4. I have major concerns with his ability to defend though and i think if we go by fit there are better options since the PF position is our deepest position.

 

Giles has potential and could either be a steal or a bust, that's true. But if he reach his potential, he's going to have a major impact on the future on the Lakers, whereas Swanigan's ceiling is... Troy Murphy? You can find that guy in free agency (Illyasova, Patrick Patterson, Ingles etc.)


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Posted March 08, 2017 - 08:29 AM

Free agency requires bigger contracts.  Late 1st round salary is like 1.1M.  You aren't getting those guys for less than 7-8M this offseason

this is true. the average joe will make 7-8 million while players like Crowder, Ezili and others will make double that. it is the new market



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Posted March 08, 2017 - 11:20 AM

Free agency requires bigger contracts.  Late 1st round salary is like 1.1M.  You aren't getting those guys for less than 7-8M this offseason

What im saying is that it is better to gamble on someone like Giles whose upside might make a real difference, rather than to settle for someone that most likely wont.

 

And if we are drafting based on need i think the PF spot is the least of our worries. Randle, Nance and Deng all are capable PFs. Ingram also has seen minutes at the 4 and Brewer could probably play the 4 in certain small ball lineups. In other words, the PF position is pretty much covered. Even if we trade Randle, we are covered.

 

My pick - if we drafting based on need - would perhaps be someone like Josh Hart. 3s/D SG/SF who can do a little bit of everything.


Edited by DanishLakerFan, March 08, 2017 - 11:21 AM.





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