Has nothing to do with size. His production this year happened regardless of size.
That's basically implying that greatness is totally aesthetic
Him not being in the discussion for the greatest is more of the fact that he's 28 and his career really just started because Durant left.
what this season did is put Westbrook in the discussion for best in the league. Kobe was the best perimeter player in basketball from 2003-2010
Lebron was 1b from 2007-2010 and the best from 2011-2015
Westbrook has to perform at this level or close to it and win a few titles before he vaults into all time greatness
But if Westbrook gets help. Which I think he will. I see Blake griffin heading to okc. And he manages to win some titles he'll vault ahead of Durant and curry in this era. And if he does that he'll put himself in the discussion. But his time table is small
One season doesn't put you in the all time greats career wise. But he definitely had an all time great season
Right now he's 2001 iverson. Which is nothing to sniff at. If he does it another 3-4 times then the discussion can start
Greatness is the idea that you dominate whenever you step on the court. That other players are at your will when you have the ball in your hand. That you impact the game to such a degree you must be accounted for one both offense and defense. Like I said go through the best 10 to every play in this league, and you can go by anyone's list. Do you think it is just a coincidence that no one under 6'6 is in that convo? There have been many amazing players that have been shorter than that, but they have never had the ability to dominate at all facets because of their size. If you really believe that size does not matter in basketball you are discounting the greatness that AI was on the court and the amazing play that you are seeing from Isaiah Thomas right now. Someone dropping 30 at 6 foot is much more impressive than dropping 30 at 6'8 don't you agree?
I think part of what makes him so great is how much of a physical marvel he is at his position, him being 6'6 will still have him as a super athlete but we're not talking best athlete ever at his position. If we're talking about just adding height to the skillet he has right now LeBron and KD are still better because they are both more skilled and they both have one skill that's GOAT level (scoring and passing). Westbrook is very good at a lot of stuff but he's not GOAT level in one single thing skillwise. He's an average shooter, a good passer but not amazing and has a very good handle. He is not a great defender, he takes way too many plays off and has never locked in on that end for a full season to an elite level. Post up game is good but mostly because he is just too physically dominant at his position. If you can just break his game down to parts you can see it's not at GOAT level
Westbrook is already arguably the most athletic guy in the league. His speed, quickness, explosion, and strength (for his size) is amazing.
More skilled? You would take Lebron's jumper over Westbrook's? What Lebron you watching? Really cannot compare post games because one is a PG, and learning to operate on the low block at 6'3 doesn't make sense. However, you do not think Westbrook with his speed and skill would not be able to get the footwork down low and operate efficiently on the low block if he was taller and stronger? Not to mention Lebron was a ball dominate point forward most his early career, how many times did he eclipse 10 apg? 0. Again, Lebron has never ever had 10rpg and he is 6'8 250, Westbrook does and he is 6'3 200.
Durant for his career has 7rpg, Westbrook averages 6! He is 6 inches shorter and only grabs one less rebound. Durant has never had a season with more than 5.5 apg in one season, Westbrook has basically doubled that this season. However, I will take Durant's scoring ability over Westbrook because his shooting is silky smooth.
I do not want to derail the topic, but we just watched a 6'3 man average a triple double! He has a sky high usage rate which is the biggest knock on him this season in terms of these stats. I think it is actually the highest ever in a season. To say if we gave this man another 3-5 inches and 30 pounds he wouldn't be even more dominate is pretty crazy to me.
Edited by PhillyLaker24, April 11, 2017 - 04:39 AM.