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#21 Jackson

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Posted June 24, 2016 - 02:33 AM

The question here is why did the Magic do this trade. What's it in for them?

Don't understand these EC teams.

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Posted June 24, 2016 - 03:00 AM

they have a good frontcourt now

 

ibaka and vucevic is pretty nice !


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Posted June 24, 2016 - 06:22 AM

Feel like OKC got the much better end of this deal.

 

I hope Ibaka succeeds in Orlando though. He hasn't been the same lately.



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Posted June 24, 2016 - 10:30 AM

Solid front court, consolidated the backcourt talent and they have money to spend.  Makes a lot of sense for a team pushing for the playoffs next season. 

 

The question here is why did the Magic do this trade. What's it in for them?

Don't understand these EC teams.


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Posted June 24, 2016 - 10:45 AM

Solid front court, consolidated the backcourt talent and they have money to spend.  Makes a lot of sense for a team pushing for the playoffs next season. 

 

Yea the Harris and Ibaka trades were both win now moves.  Has Orlando been to the playoffs since Dwight left?

 

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Posted June 24, 2016 - 12:16 PM

OKC's loss, in this scenario, is the floor spacing at the 4.  Sure Ibaka's 3 has fallen off but he's likely more reliable there than Kanter. 

Also Kanter's defense is some of the worst in the league, so they will count on Steven Adams to be a primary anchor by himself instead of next to Ibaka.  

It's the little things like that. 

They do however replace Roberson with Oladipo. 


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Posted June 24, 2016 - 12:20 PM

They could play Ilyasova at the 4, who is a much better 3-point shooter. Your 1-3 in Russ, Oladipo, and KD are all already solid defenders. Adams is a competent defender at the 5. 

 

With that lineup, they literally add more floor spacing with Oladipo and Ilyasova. Many other combinations too. They could be looking to make other moves as well.



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Posted June 24, 2016 - 04:27 PM

I really hope they start playing KD at the four, it seems like they really started testing it against the Warriors more and it looked so frightening.

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Posted June 24, 2016 - 06:14 PM

Scott Skiles ruined Hezonja's rookie year, so Magic is trying to make up for it. They are still a good team, maybe even more organized now.

Payton
Hezonja
Gordon
Ibaka
Vucevic

Balanced team on offense and defense. They will push for playoffs this year.

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Posted June 24, 2016 - 09:58 PM

Yup. I expect a lot of KD at the 4.


Who is the 3 though?

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Posted June 25, 2016 - 06:24 AM

The question now is if KD is basing his desicion largely on basketball reasons, who is the more attractive team? Did OKC improve their team and chances of retaining KD?

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Posted June 25, 2016 - 08:01 AM

OKC has done what they always have done. Cut bait so they won't spend too much money. To me, they lost KD. Yes Adams and Kanter are good pieces, Serge stretched that floor though.

Because they didn't want to pay
Harden traded
Jackson traded
Serge traded

But hey, as long as they sniff the chance at a championship it keeps saying.... ALMOST AND NEXT YEAR
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Posted June 25, 2016 - 09:06 AM

Serge stretched the floor and was solid switching out and defending the perimeter during pick and rolls.

 

Adding Oladipo, while a very solid addition as a shot creator, wing defender, and great athlete is never a bad move.  However, it definitely alters the dynamic of the team being that there is now another player that is highly ball dominant.  Ibaka fit perfectly because he provided solid post/perimeter defense, stretched the floor, and didn't need the ball to be effective.

 

It'll be very interesting to see how this all plays out.



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Posted June 25, 2016 - 11:48 AM

They figure to have a third guy who if not defended intensely can break down the defense on the other side of the floor.



I'm thinking the Thunder play small next season if they retain KD, which I think they will.

Adams
KD
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Oladipo
Westbrook

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Posted June 25, 2016 - 01:36 PM

Serge stretched the floor and was solid switching out and defending the perimeter during pick and rolls.

Adding Oladipo, while a very solid addition as a shot creator, wing defender, and great athlete is never a bad move. However, it definitely alters the dynamic of the team being that there is now another player that is highly ball dominant. Ibaka fit perfectly because he provided solid post/perimeter defense, stretched the floor, and didn't need the ball to be effective.

It'll be very interesting to see how this all plays out.


And now they will ask the worst defending big in the game to do both..

And Oladipo is a 33% three point shooter.

Someone said ilyasova could stretch the floor? He mat also be a worse defender than Kanter...

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Posted June 25, 2016 - 04:29 PM

Who is to say they have stopped making moves.


Oladipo is 33% and trending up. Much better than Roberson.

And more than a three point shooter, they need a point scorer.

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Posted June 25, 2016 - 08:16 PM

Then they should get a point guard and let Russell play 2

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Posted June 26, 2016 - 04:51 AM

Idk if Trevor Ariza is a free agent but if he is OKC could be a good spot for him to play as the SF in that small ball lineup.

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Posted June 26, 2016 - 06:51 AM

He's not a free agent. I trade him for cash though. Lol

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Posted June 27, 2016 - 11:02 AM

And now they will ask the worst defending big in the game to do both..

And Oladipo is a 33% three point shooter.

Someone said ilyasova could stretch the floor? He mat also be a worse defender than Kanter...

It wouldn't make any sense to ask Kanter to somehow turn into Ibaka, so obviously they wont do that since they have a lot of alternative options. Durant is awesome at the 5, Illyasova add spacing, and they also have McGary and Collison and even rookie Sabonis could see some minutes. In terms of spacing, i think Oladipo is close to a lateral move from Ibaka. Dipo is right at league average as a shooter, but have improved his first 3 seasons so he may be improve again this season, now that he'll be more open than ever before and Ibaka only shot .326 last season, which isn't all that great.

 

Of course the Thunder will struggle a bit defensively without Ibaka, but this was a move they had to make and it only had two endings with the guy: he walks for nothing next summer, which they couldn't allow, or he gets paid a 5yr, 150m deal which they wouldn't want either since Durant, Westbrook and Adams also would demand max deals.







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