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#1 GCMD

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Posted May 31, 2016 - 06:31 PM

Since every thread turns into a "does Julius Randle fit" thread at some point, I decided to start a thread just for that...

 

 

Does Randle fit the roster?

Does Randle fit the offense?

 

Can Randle change?

 

Did Byron cause Randle's tendencies?

 

Here are some videos to get us started...

 

 

This is the offense people want to try to shoehorn Randle in...

 

This is the guy people want to TRANSFORM Randle into:

 

 

 

Discuss...

 

 


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#2 Jody Smokes

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Posted May 31, 2016 - 06:41 PM

Anyone that thinks Randle can be transform into an LO or Simmons type of players should probably not enter this thread


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Posted May 31, 2016 - 06:41 PM

Has it really come to this? Haha

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Posted May 31, 2016 - 06:48 PM

Anyone that thinks Randle can be transform into an LO or Simmons type of players should probably not enter this thread

 

 

Danish

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These guys are diehards...they think Randle can LEARN to play like Green and Simmons...real talk.

 

Clutch is close...but I think he is just afraid of getting rid of him, not delusional about his potential and game. 


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#5 BasketballIQ

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Posted May 31, 2016 - 06:48 PM

Smh.


Randle had a triple double already.

Of course he is not as deferential as Lamar, or as fluid as Simmons but he can be an effective ball moving forward in this league

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Posted May 31, 2016 - 06:50 PM

In a vacuum,

Randle deserves one more season under a competent coach in a decent offense before the Lakers make any decisions on moving him. He's coming off his rookie season, basically, so that makes things somewhat unfair.

Even so, his value is not high at the moment. It's in the best interest of the franchise to see how Walton can use him, and at the same time let him add some sort of value to his name in case things don't go the way they'd like.
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Posted May 31, 2016 - 06:57 PM

Randle is a bully ball player to me. Just seems like that's what he is and will be.
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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:01 PM

A year is not even enough time.

Look at Paul George who broke his leg.

He didn't play quite as good as he did before the injury.
You look at Randle who started the summer league with restrictions and his age , lack of experience.
This is year 1 of evaluating. Sure if you get a great offer, you listen but we are very much in evaluation mode

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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:03 PM

Randle is a bully ball player to me. Just seems like that's what he is and will be.


His whole career?

No growth?

So basically out of the league soon right? What bully ball player at that size is in the league right now?

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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:05 PM

Smh.


Randle had a triple double already.

Of course he is not as deferential as Lamar, or as fluid as Simmons but he can be an effective ball moving forward in this league

 

I call shenanigans...

 

In a vacuum,

Randle deserves one more season under a competent coach in a decent offense before the Lakers make any decisions on moving him. He's coming off his rookie season, basically, so that makes things somewhat unfair.

Even so, his value is not high at the moment. It's in the best interest of the franchise to see how Walton can use him, and at the same time let him add some sort of value to his name in case things don't go the way they'd like.

 

Vacuum...yes.  But we are talking about his affect on the rest of the team.  This offense will do the OPPOSITE of showcasing Randle's talents or raising his trade value.  His value won't get higher by him struggling in an offense that does NOT feature him...and NO ONE expects him to pick this offense up quickly...

 

If you had an offense that revolved around back-to-the-basket scoring, would you have Lamar Odom as your #1 post option?  No...doesn't make sense.  You COULD make a case for LO bulking up and getting stronger but do you think that you could change LO into a bruiser?

 

No...just like you're not going to change Randle into system guy who plays off the ball, sets picks for everyone else and doesn't worry about taking over the game by himself...it doesn't work that way.

 

Kobe and Phil tried to turn Pau into a bruiser...LOL...


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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:06 PM

They turned Pau into a champion.

Bynum was the bruiser. Pau got tougher.

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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:07 PM

Haha I was waiting for you to make this thread, GCMD. I'll post more comprehensive thoughts in a few days when I get time. 

 

One obvious thing though -- Randle will never transform into Simmons/LO as they're entirely different players. Randle's tendency to attack the paint and play his bully-ball style won't go away. But I do think it can be controlled and part of a more holistic game. And we'll see some more off-ball movement and screens. 


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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:08 PM

How can you say Randle won't play for his teammates... This is his first year.

JR Smith is playing both sides of the ball effectively, after a decade in the league.

Stop trolling

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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:08 PM

You definitely haven't talked about this subject enough GCMD. Thank the lord you made a thread. I can't wait to read what more you have to say.
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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:09 PM

Haha I was waiting for you to make this thread, GCMD. I'll post more comprehensive thoughts in a few days when I get time.

One obvious thing though -- Randle will never transform into Simmons/LO as they're entirely different players. Randle's tendency to attack the paint and play his bully-ball style won't go away. But I do think it can be controlled and part of a more holistic game. And we'll see some more off-ball movement and screens.




He'll never be LeBron. Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is a score first POWER FORWARD!!!

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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:09 PM

Randle is a bully ball player to me. Just seems like that's what he is and will be.

 

 

This is how Randle should be used...it's where he'd be most efficient and help the TEAM.  It's also not what this offense is about:

 


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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:21 PM

He'll never be LeBron. Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is a score first POWER FORWARD!!!

 

 

That's the problem.  We don't need that for this offense...

 


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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:23 PM

His whole career?

No growth?

So basically out of the league soon right? What bully ball player at that size is in the league right now?

 

See Z-Bo...and he was an AllStar...borderline Franchise player also.


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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:29 PM

He deserves a year or two of completely ruining our offense before we can determine if he is a good fit or not lol
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Posted May 31, 2016 - 07:31 PM

He deserves a year or two of completely ruining our offense before we can determine if he is a good fit or not lol

 

 

Yep...if you want to drive his trade value lower, sure.


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