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#4581 BasketballIQ

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Posted May 18, 2017 - 08:27 PM

Most of those guys at least started out with solid efficiency though. And again, most of those guys aren't stars. Giannis is probably the best argument you have among those players.

I'll admit that a decent case is being made that very good players can blossom later. But stars? That's a rare thing. James Harden is the only good argument I've heard against that.


Star is relative.

Kawhi was seen as below George and Butler as two way threats early.

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Posted May 19, 2017 - 05:08 AM

Star is relative.

Kawhi was seen as below George and Butler as two way threats early.

 

Agreed.



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Posted May 19, 2017 - 01:39 PM

Forgot about this.

 


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Posted May 19, 2017 - 01:48 PM

Hahahahaha



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Posted May 19, 2017 - 11:02 PM

You're bordering on Jay The Great level of posting contributions

Out of all people that post on here your the last person to talk [expletive] about what i post. You contribute close to nothing in a discussion and most the time its hard to understand what you're trying to say. Gtfoh
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#4586 BasketballIQ

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Posted May 19, 2017 - 11:06 PM

Out of all people that post on here your the last person to talk [expletive] about what i post. You contribute close to nothing in a discussion and most the time its hard to understand what you're trying to say. Gtfoh


Lol. Low intelligence

#4587 RobBlake

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Posted May 19, 2017 - 11:21 PM

Lmao

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Posted May 19, 2017 - 11:36 PM

Lol. Low intelligence

Again you contribute nothing just ignore me bro and ill do what most other people do and igore you.
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Posted May 20, 2017 - 03:57 AM

I'm trying to figure out how this Ball / Russell combo is suppose to be so great when the opposing 1 and 2 guards on damn near every team will average a combined 50 or 55 points on our 1 and 2 every game. Unless one of them starts on the bench. Zu Moz Black nor Randle could possibly rim protect that much. Hell; Shaq or Rudy couldn't. This is going to be really interesting to see how this unfolds. I'm lovin it!!!  


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Posted May 20, 2017 - 05:02 AM

I'm trying to figure out how this Ball / Russell combo is suppose to be so great when the opposing 1 and 2 guards on damn near every team will average a combined 50 or 55 points on our 1 and 2 every game. Unless one of them starts on the bench. Zu Moz Black nor Randle could possibly rim protect that much. Hell; Shaq or Rudy couldn't. This is going to be really interesting to see how this unfolds. I'm lovin it!!!  

 

Im not so sure we're keeping both, I have a feeling we'll be moving either the pick or Russ... 



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Posted May 20, 2017 - 05:25 AM

Im not so sure we're keeping both, I have a feeling we'll be moving either the pick or Russ...

Why do you guys think we are trading Russell? He is our best player and this will likely be his breakout year. I think you have to at least try him next to a playmaker before you trade him.

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Posted May 20, 2017 - 05:33 AM

Why do you guys think we are trading Russell? He is our best player and this will likely be his breakout year. I think you have to at least try him next to a playmaker before you trade him.

 

It could be the #2 pick... I just have a feeling this FO is going to make big moves... also if you wait another year and the kids don't progress and produce you now have lost some value... the stock market is tricky.


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Posted May 20, 2017 - 05:45 AM

It could be the #2 pick... I just have a feeling this FO is going to make big moves... also if you wait another year and the kids don't progress and produce you now have lost some value... the stock market is tricky.


On the contrary, what if he gets traded and balls?

I get the sentiment though, I feel the same way. I feel it's gonna be a mistake trading Russell and not the pick. Heck, it might be a mistake trading either.

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Posted May 20, 2017 - 05:56 AM

On the contrary, what if he gets traded and balls?

I get the sentiment though, I feel the same way. I feel it's gonna be a mistake trading Russell and not the pick. Heck, it might be a mistake trading either.

 

S--- happens, it very well could happen, thats the stock market, the nature of the beast... gambling on the unknown.

 

Im truly torn on Russ vs the # 2 if it indeed it comes down to this... our margin for errors is minimal.   


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Posted May 20, 2017 - 06:30 AM

S--- happens, it very well could happen, thats the stock market, the nature of the beast... gambling on the unknown.
 
Im truly torn on Russ vs the # 2 if it indeed it comes down to this... our margin for errors is minimal.

Russ all day!

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Posted May 20, 2017 - 12:24 PM

I actually think the front office is playing it very smart and won't pull the trigger on any deal involving Russell, Ingram, or the 2nd overall pick.

 

Not many GMs tend to show their cards nor specify their future plans regarding offseason transactions.  For Magic to go forward and state that he is planning on saving money this season and focusing on making a splash in 2018 speaks volumes.  

 

I expect (and hope) that Pelinka and Magic will simply develop the young core and allow them to show what they are capable of until the trade deadline.  The guys that are auditioning for their roles moving forward are Jordan Clarkson, Julius Randle, and Larry Nance.  If those guys have shone to make a reasonable leap and elevate their games within the first few months of the season, you hang onto them.  If not, you look to package them with either Mozgov or Deng in order to shed that extra bit of cap space to potentially sign 2 max players or a single max player and complimentary role players to pair with Ball, Ingram, Russell, and likely Zubac.

 

Let's say Randle or Clarkson don't pan out or meet expectations during their Junior campaigns.  I can certainly see the Lakers packaging a deal surrounding one of them with Deng or Moz, as well as other minor pieces (2nd round picks) in order to obtain the expiring contract of Brook Lopez.

 

While many view the 2nd overall pick, Russell, and Ingram as our current trade chips.  I think the actual pieces being shopped are Clarkson, Randle, and Nance.


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Posted May 20, 2017 - 12:48 PM

Why trade a valuable asset to get rid of Mozdeng? 2018 class is not strong..


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Posted May 20, 2017 - 01:51 PM

Watch Randle's portion of this video on screen setters.

 

 

This depends on the guards getting open...this video explains why the offense looked so bad.  And it's why Randle can't operate within this offense without the ball in his hands.


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Posted May 20, 2017 - 08:40 PM

Watch Randle's portion of this video on screen setters.

 


This depends on the guards getting open...this video explains why the offense looked so bad.  And it's why Randle can't operate within this offense without the ball in his hands.

" Randle can be a good screener when he wants to be. "



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Posted May 21, 2017 - 07:01 PM

" Randle can be a good screener when he wants to be. "

 

 

62% of the time, he doesn't...that's very concerning in an offense where there is so many off ball screens and so much movement.  That's means around 2/3rds of the half court plays will FAIL when Randle's on the court...

 

You think we have a CHANCE to win like that?


Edited by GCMD, May 21, 2017 - 07:01 PM.

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