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#21 MAMBA24ILL

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Posted May 28, 2015 - 12:46 PM

I guess since Kobe leads in this pointless stat that there needs to be a post about it.

Well it is the offseason around here..
 
 

I'm surprised that the media is actually bashing their golden child, Lebron James..

How is that even bashing?

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Posted May 28, 2015 - 03:17 PM


I'm surprised to see this stat on an ESPN network.

As am I. I just hope whoever did it didn't get fired.

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Posted May 28, 2015 - 03:18 PM

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Posted May 28, 2015 - 03:27 PM

i always felt this was the case, but have never seen it represented...good to know my suspicions were correct

 

I'm curious about the eliminations as well, i wonder if there's one for all playoff series' that a player has been in and the competition...the years we lost in the finals, or were eliminated early were pretty brutal...boston, phoenix, dallas...san anotonio and utah in the late 90s, pistons...the list goes on


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Posted May 28, 2015 - 09:21 PM

Glad someone made a thread. It's crazy how underrated Kobe is these days. Hopefully once he retires people will look back and celebrate his career like Magic, Kareem, Jordan and Bird's. Lebron too.



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Posted May 28, 2015 - 10:51 PM

LBJs 3 losses in 5 attempts during the Finals reflect this.

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Posted May 28, 2015 - 11:58 PM

97/98

(WCSF) Seattle Supersonics (61-21)

99/00

(WCSF) Phoenix Suns (53-29) ----------------- 21 ppg 3.8 rpg 3.4 apg

(WCF) Portland Trailblazers (59-23) --------- 20.4 ppg 4.9 rpg 5.6 apg

(Final) Indiana Pacers (56-26) ----------------- 15.6 ppg 4.6 rpg 4.2 apg

00/01

(WCQF) Portland Trailblazers (50-32) ------- 25 ppg 4.3 rpg 7.7 apg

(WCSF) Sacramento Kings (55-27) ---------- 35 ppg 9 rpg 4.3 apg

(WCF) San Antonio Spurs (58-24) ------------ 33.3 ppg 7 rpg 7 apg

(Final) Philadelphia 76ers (56-26) ----------- 24.6 ppg 7.8 rpg 5.8 apg

01/02

(WCSF) San Antonio Spurs (58-24) --------- 26.2 ppg 5.4 rpg 4.8 apg

(WCF) Sacramento Kings (61-21) ----------- 27.1 ppg 6.3 rpg 3.9 apg

(Final) New Jersey Nets (52-30) ------------- 26.8 ppg 5.8 rpg 5.3 apg

02/03

(WCQF) Minnesota Timberwolves (51-31) - 31.8 ppg 5.2 rpg 6.7 apg

03/04

(WCSF) San Antonio Spurs (57-25) ---------- 26.3 ppg 6.3 rpg 5.8 apg

(WCF) Minnesota Timberwolves (58-24) --- 22.6 ppg 2.8 rpg 4.4 apg

07/08

(WCQF) Denver Nuggets (50-32) ------------- 33.5 ppg 5.3 rpg 6.3 apg

(WCSF) Utah Jazz (54-24) ---------------------- 33.2 ppg 7 rpg 7.2 apg

(WCF) San Antonio Spurs (56-26) ------------ 29.2 ppg 5.6 rpg 3.8 apg

08/09

(WCSF) Houston Rockets (53-29) ------------ 27.4 ppg 5 rpg 3.7 apg

(WCF) Denver Nuggets (54-24) --------------- 34 ppg 5.8 rpg 5.8 apg

(Final) Orlando Magic (59-23) ----------------- 32.4 ppg 5.6 rpg 7.4 apg

09/10

(WCQF) Oklahoma City Thunder (50-32) --- 23.5 ppg 4 rpg 4.3 apg

(WCSF) Utah Jazz (53-29) ---------------------- 32 ppg 3.8 rpg 5.8 apg

(WCF) Phoenix Suns (54-28) ------------------ 33.7 ppg 7.2 rpg 8.3 apg

(Final) Boston Celtics (50-32) ----------------- 28.6 ppg 8 rpg 3.9 apg

 

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06/07

(ECF) Detroit Pistons (54-24) ------------------ 25.2 ppg 9.2 rpg 8.5 apg

10/11

(ECSF) Boston Celtics (56-26) ---------------- 28 ppg 8.2 rpg 3.6 apg

(ECF) Chicago Bulls (62-20) ------------------ 25.8 ppg 7.8 rpg 6.6 apg

12/13

(Final) San Antonio Spurs (58-24) ----------- 25.3 ppg 10.9 rpg 7 apg

13/14

(ECF) Indiana Pacers (54-28) ---------------- 22.8 ppg 6.3 rpg 5.5 apg

14/15

(ECSF) Chicago Bulls (50-32) --------------- 26.2 ppg 11 rpg 8.8 apg

(ECF) Atlanta Hawks (60-22) ---------------- 30.3 ppg 11 rpg 9.3 apg

 

 

 

I guess this is self explanatory lol.


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 04:06 AM

^ DAMN. That disparity is just downright staggering.
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Posted May 29, 2015 - 04:29 AM

Good god, he didn't play a single 50-win team in the east in 2013... This has to be taken into consideration when weighing his greatness lol, he's getting a free pass to the conference finals almost every season!

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Posted May 29, 2015 - 04:47 AM

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Posted May 29, 2015 - 05:09 AM

Updated that list with their respective stats in each series.

 

 

To think ESPN provided us the stats to shut the [expletive] up Lebron supporters once and for all... I hope they argue again that Shaq carried Kobe, and Lebron was this amazing player in playoffs.

 

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Posted May 29, 2015 - 05:41 AM

Well to be fair, he was still amazing, but just not as much as they made it out to be when you weigh all factors and facts. This is not just some for nothing stat. This really speaks directly to legacy when regarding and comparing some of the greats. It DOES have to matter at least to some extent how tough your road was compared to the other greats. That's a measure of greatness in its own right.

That's why I've always felt had LeBron come to the West, I would've respected and elevated his greatness so much more.
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#33 Tensai

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Posted May 29, 2015 - 06:00 AM

Well nobody is saying Lebron is [expletive]. We are essentially making a relative evaluation. Right after his 2nd ring, people were already putting him in Top 5 and [expletive]. Like, why? Jordan basically became who he is by winning in playoffs. Nobody gave [expletive] before his first ring when he was averaging triple doubles for a month or 37ppg for a season. His legacy was cemented with that 6/6. Lebron could possibly perform similarly in West as well, but he couldn't capitalize on his chances in '09 and '10 when he had 60+ win teams and that's where his career gets outshined. He didn't help himself when he jumped the ship to form big 3, and start spouting bs like they could win 8. Clearly it ain't that easy, even playing in a weaker conference.


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 06:11 AM

Even though Lebron had it easy with the Heat out East what do we say to him beating the best the West had to to offer in 2 Finals and the fact the Heat had a high % of wins vs Western teams during that run? Just a thought. 


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 06:14 AM

Heat were the best team in NBA. But even then, he should thank to basketball gods (or Ray Allen) that they managed to turn it around in last seconds of Game 6 in 2013.


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 06:15 AM

Even though Lebron had it easy with the Heat out East what do we say to him beating the best the West had to to offer in 2 Finals and the fact the Heat had a high % of wins vs Western teams during that run? Just a thought. 

 

They were a good team that ended up winning two chips, they beat  the Thunder convincingly and the first win against the Spurs they ended up stealing the series at the end.

 

Looking at the other two series though, Lebron had the worst series ever for a star against the Mavs, and the second time around with the spurs I believe it was the highest average margin of victory for a team in the finals ever. 


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Posted May 29, 2015 - 07:13 AM

Not surprising at all lol



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Posted May 29, 2015 - 08:50 AM

Man, Kobe stats in semis and conference finals are just crazy. I don't know how can anybody say he was a sidekick.

 

 00/01

(WCSF) Sacramento Kings (55-27) ---------- 35 ppg 9 rpg 4.3 apg

(WCF) San Antonio Spurs (58-24) ------------ 33.3 ppg 7 rpg 7 apg

 

And my personal favorite Kobe series:

 

09/10

(WCF) Phoenix Suns (54-28) ------------------ 33.7 ppg 7.2 rpg 8.3 apg


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Posted May 30, 2015 - 06:39 PM

Heat were the best team in NBA. But even then, he should thank to basketball gods (or Ray Allen) that they managed to turn it around in last seconds of Game 6 in 2013.



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Posted May 30, 2015 - 06:41 PM

They were a good team that ended up winning two chips, they beat  the Thunder convincingly and the first win against the Spurs they ended up stealing the series at the end.

 

Looking at the other two series though, Lebron had the worst series ever for a star against the Mavs, and the second time around with the spurs I believe it was the highest average margin of victory for a team in the finals ever. 

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