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#1181 MAMBA24ILL

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Posted May 18, 2015 - 12:15 PM

Well these past 2 fights post MayPac were pretty good. Not bad for a sport that died 2 weeks ago..

Right.....?

Really wish Canelo would fight GGG instead of waiting on Cotto.

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Posted May 21, 2015 - 12:34 PM


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Posted July 30, 2015 - 11:45 AM

This weekends bout of Danny Garcia vs Paulie Malignaggi could be a good one. 


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#1184 Majesty

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Posted July 31, 2015 - 04:37 PM

Paulie Malignaggi 2004-2012 maybe.  But 2013-2015 not so much 


Edited by Majesty, July 31, 2015 - 04:38 PM.

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Posted August 03, 2015 - 12:26 PM

Paulie was game but outgunned. Danny just too much for him. 
Sergio Mora had it tough with his ankle going out & the 2nd fight of that card was a nasty KO. IDK who them dudes were. 


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Posted August 05, 2015 - 01:52 PM

Andre berto....

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Posted August 05, 2015 - 02:42 PM

^ Pretty much all that needs to be said.

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Posted August 31, 2015 - 11:59 AM

Leo Santa Cruz & Abner Mares was a war. 

LOL at Mayorga getting stopped by Sugar Shane. Shouldn't have slapped his wifes rear. 


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Posted September 10, 2015 - 11:46 AM

Ain't no one talking about this weekends Floyd Mayweather fight. 


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Posted October 21, 2015 - 04:14 PM

He Ain't Lyin'


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#1191 Majesty

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Posted October 24, 2015 - 12:41 AM

He Ain't Lyin'


Boxing will be dead without Floyd. 

Floyd is the only thing that's watched in boxing nowadays in the mainstream and no one else is carrying the torch and no one else would be able to sell a PPV. 


People can hate and talk all they want, but Floyd is all that's keeping boxing relevant right now.  

Oscar is trying to hype up his Golden Boy Promotions stuff and saying what Arum would say. 

But realistically and financially, Floyd Mayweather was/is all that's keeping boxing alive.  And Pacquiao retiring soon will soon follow.


Want proof?   

name me the last boxing and relevant PPV that didn't involve Floyd Mayweather Jr. without looking anything up...

Don't worry I'll wait..... 


The next boxing PPV is next month and no one is saying jack squat about it, and it's Cotto vs ALvarez (two guys Floyd has already beat) but no one's talking about it.   

Why? Because if Floyd isn't the end game for the winner, it doesn't matter in the mainstream eye.    Till another character comes along that captivates the audience like Floyd and is good enough to back it up without losing for as long as he did, boxing won't be doing anything relevant for a while. 


Edited by Majesty, October 24, 2015 - 12:42 AM.

"Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen." 


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Posted October 24, 2015 - 09:26 AM

People will take actual boxing all day over watching just to see a points fighter being taken down.

Boxing will be dead without Floyd? LMAO Like did people forget just how great boxing was BEFORE Floyd rose to the top? When Floyd was on top, boxing was at its WORST. He feasted on a pretty barren talent pool for a while and even dodged what should have been one the better fights in years once Pac was primed and ready to go. That helped kill the sport even more.

Boxing will be better without Floyd scamming people for $50-$75 on Saturday nights just so he can hold his way to a points win.

If people aren't talking about Cotto-Alvarez than they're casual observers of boxing, much like those who only watch football on Super bowl Sunday. Boxing isn't what it was in its best days, but it will still be relevant after Floyd, who only pumped up interest because people wanted to see him get knocked out, not because he was this captivating figure. I'll take the Sugar Ray Leonard's over Mayweather any day, because those are the types of boxers the sport needs to stay alive.

If Floyd was truly keeping the sport alive, it would have built a lasting interest after he hung them up, at least for a little while. Now? Not a chirp of boxing from the media because Floyd didn't have the influence to do it. People aren't looking for the next Floyd because that's not what they want.

I feel sorry for anyone thinking boxing needs Floyd. Boxing needs boxers, rivalries, real captivating personas, not Floyd.
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Posted October 24, 2015 - 02:35 PM

People will take actual boxing all day over watching just to see a points fighter being taken down.

 


"Actual Boxing" 

You mean the art of hitting and not getting hit?   


If you want to see a war just admit it.  But "actual" boxing is the art of hitting and not getting hit, that's what it is officially. 


People tune in because they want to see Floyd getting beat, that and the character he plays is what has kept boxing interesting over the past few years and boxing has done a shoddy job in creating anyone that's going to fill that void.  

And "casual observers" of boxing are the guys that make up about 90% of the 'big numbers' of the PPV buys.  When only the hardcore boxing fans care PPV's never sell well. They're in the minority and they don't make the money and that is what boxing needs to remain relevant.  They need all those 'casual observers' to take interest if boxing is going to reach popular heights again.   Without them, they are nothing.  The special snowflakes called the 'hardcore boxing fans' that frequent forums make up about 10-15% of an actual crowd.  The majority of them are there to see one person or are there because they are fans of one boxer or another but could care less about most other boxers. 

Floyd was truly all that kept the sport of live because he WAS the lasting interest.  It's up to boxing to create and hype someone else to fill that void, it's not up to Floyd to tell you to "keep watching boxing for a few years after I'm gone."  it was up to him to ensure everyone watched when he was active, and they did.   It's up to boxing to keep itself up after he's retired, and they've done a shoddy job of hyping anyone else up. 


You can say "People aren't looking for the next Floyd!"  and try to act like "People don't care to see a boxer get a points win"  but the fact of the matter is Floyd Mayweather Jr is one of the highest grossing boxer of all time and for the past 13 years has been THE PPV guy that has sold the most and broken records and the only 'little' guy to be as box office as he's been in a monolopy and money that was once held by only Heavyweights and Oscar De La Hoya.     

Floyd's been boxings biggest seller over the past 13 years and the numbers do not lie. He's been the cash cow regardless of what you may feel about him, you obviously do not speak for the majority, because the majority are the people that have put his fights and PPV events number 1 over the past 13 years.   


So as I said, Floyd was all that kept boxing relevant.  Pacquiao on his end too till his popularity waned and for Pacquiao a lot the mainstream attention came because of the probability of fighting who?  Floyd Mayweather Jr. 

After JMM sparked him out though the hyped for it died down a bit.  Till the fight was made eventhough we knew that Pacquiao didn't stand a chance. 

 



So love him or hate him, Floyd has kept boxing relevant.  Say what you will about his style, or the character he plays on TV, but he's the reason, like it or hate it.    And when he's retired, boxing is more or less dead.   Till another person like him comes along and captivates the audience in the same way.    

But I don't see anyone going on a 20 year unbeaten streak while winning titles in 5 different weight classes and holding a world title of some kind for 18 straight years for a long long time. 


Edited by Majesty, October 24, 2015 - 02:35 PM.

"Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen." 


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Posted October 24, 2015 - 08:04 PM

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Posted October 25, 2015 - 10:29 PM

GGG


He's 33 and taking advantage of a weak middleweight division.  Cool story and all but he'll never sell a PPV.  Eventually he's going to have to fight real competition and that's gonna either be at 168 or at 154. 


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Posted November 16, 2015 - 12:43 PM

Anyone else hyped up for Saturday nights fight?

 

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Posted November 20, 2015 - 06:50 PM

Hell yeah can't wait to see cotto vs canelo fight and def happy that Rigo is back fighting and can't wait see him in the ring again

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Posted November 21, 2015 - 07:40 AM

going to watch it a friend's house, expecting a good fight


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Posted November 21, 2015 - 05:20 PM

any reliable link for the fight?



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Posted November 21, 2015 - 09:37 PM

Back and forth fight.

Was really expecting Cotto to test Canelo's body more than he has.  


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