Taylor: Garnett likes teacher’s role

A teacher? Oh, c’mon! You can be a principal with the Lakers, Kevin! The one principal that can bring another title in the City of Angels. Can’t you see that? You are better then a teacher…

Star Tribune: Last month, before the NBA draft and before Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor traveled to China, he had a talk with Kevin Garnett.

We’re going to go younger, Taylor told his star, which might make it more difficult to become a title contender.

“I thought he might say, ‘Well, if you’re going younger, I guess I don’t want to play here,’ ” Taylor recalled Tuesday. “But he said, ‘I’d be a good teacher. Guys taught me and helped me. I’d like to do that.’ ”

Taylor, who returned over the weekend, talked about a range of subjects Tuesday, including the team’s decision to field offers for Garnett before the June 28 NBA draft. He admitted Boston was the Wolves’ most serious trading partner. And while not ruling out a Garnett trade, Taylor said the team is now focused on altering its roster in other ways.

Taylor also said he doesn’t think any fence-mending is needed between Garnett and the organization.

“It concerned him,” Taylor said of Garnett and the trade talk. “He said to me, ‘I’d always assumed I was going to play here forever and ever.’ ”

Garnett could not be reached for comment.

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  • Fatty

    Fatty
    Jul 18th, 2007 at 7:03 am Quote
    Taylor

    “I told Kevin, alot of young guys are coming in (which means,were rebuilding and will lose almost every night)and Kevin says he his fine with that(He say’s KG loves to lose) he loves to teach young guys” (Makes sense, a 22 million coach on the floor)

    Because Taylor is lying, we are forced to read between the lines. The team is totally rebuilding. Young guys are coming in, no vets to help make Minnie a winner, just rookies which will help make T Wolves a winner in several years.

    The biggest piece to rebuild logically would be trading KG. So let’s get this straight. T Wolves is blowing up the team and replacing all with younger guys. But KG is staying to teach these young guys the NBA game and waste his prime to be a coach? Doesn’t make sense does it, because its not true.

    Taylor wants young guys and expiring contracts. He’s just postering to get more in an offer. He’s acting like he’s prepared to keep KG for another year and have KG opt out. KG opting out would be Minnie suicide. All they get is 22 mil off the books. Sounds like a lot, right? No. There current team salary is 72 mil, Subtract 22 mil, you get 50 mil. With the current cap that would give them only 5 mil to sign someone else. Not too good for a star player in the end, is it?

    All the teams trying to trade with Minnie know this well. Taylor thinks he’s cute and clever, but everyone involved knows what he’s doing.

    KG’s greatest value in trade was just before draft night. This is no exageration. Each day he his not traded his value is going down. Why? Simply, the teams that wanted him initially have become few. Each team has been making other deals and the pool of teams has fallen to maybe a couple, and those teams won’t wait much longer. They have to strengthen themselves while other deals are able to be made.

    Although the trade deadline is in Feb. most teams will not do a major trade late in the season.

    Is it GS or is it the Lakers? Both teams will have to involve a third team.

    Golden State has a major problem. Harrington = 4 years and 45 mil. Minnie absolutely, positively will not take on that bad of a contract for such a one demensional player. GS also has no expiring contracts to offer.

    Lakers has less than a major problem. Odom = 2 years and 13.5 mil per year
    Kwame 9 mil and expiring contract

    GS would need a third team to take on Harrington and send young talent, expirng contracts, to Minnie. Very unlikely.

    Lakers would need a third team to take Odom and send players to Minnie. Much more likely. Larry Brown said “Odom is one of the most desired players in the NBA by coaches”

    GS promises Wright, an NBA hopeful. Not the player Minnie wanted.

    Lakers promising Bynum. A top center hopeful, GM’s coveting. Who would you rather have?

    Lakers are still the front runner. But can’t wait forever. Aug 3rd is a very interesting date to put on your calendars, when Critt can be traded.

  • tim

    i think taylor must give KG incredible hand jobs before everygame.

  • Lakerboy248

    Hope you’re right Fatty. And I just have to ask this, would you give up Critt for Garnett?

  • Ira

    Kevin Garnett silence in regards to this article is key, Kevin wants to win, he can go teach at a high school or something when he retires.

    Kobe and KG can serve lessons to the league together if Kevin likes teaching the NBA players so much!!!

  • nate

    old article. read it over 2 hours ago

  • showtime88

    As much as I would love garnett to play here…the question begs to be answered again and again and again.

    JUST HOW MUCH DOES HE VALUE WINNING?!

    probably not much, although he cries and says he does…he is wayyyyy too loyal.

    Anyway….I am done with the KG thing.

    I think we need to look elsewhere, it aint happening folks..sorry to be the pessimist in all this.

  • dlakerfanforlife

    [quote comment="8281"]Hope you’re right Fatty. And I just have to ask this, would you give up Critt for Garnett?[/quote]

    Your kidding me!!! IS this MITCH? Come on this is KEVIN FREAKING GARNETT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. SHIP Critts summer “potential super star ass out” Sorry, I like the kid and I wish we could keep him but if you tell me hes a deal breaker, your crazy!!!!

  • Laker8Nate24

    we aint gonna get KG, i wish we wud focus on getting JO without trading both bynum and odom…bynum farmar or w/e for JO!….fish, kobe, luke, odom, JO is a better lineup than if we get KG anyways…odom runs this team, we need him!

  • Lakerboy248

    dlakerfanforlife

    You’re right. I would give up Critt too, but I don’t want it to backfire. Look what happened to the Hornetts when they gave up Kobe…. But in any matter, if minny likes Critt, I would give him up. I think he can be a key guy in a garnett trade. Looking forward to Aug 3rd

  • Justin M.

    Well as far as I can see, Garnett has shown no interest what so ever in becoming a Laker. So I say we go for someone that will get us to the next level and at the same time want to be a Laker. I’m thinking JO, without loosing Odom. At this point getting JO without loosing Odom sounds a lot more realistic than getting KG at all. That’s just me though.

  • Jimmy M.

    lol… kg stop being a fuckin pussy and come out and DEMAND a fuckin trade.

    dont compare kobe and KG in aspects of heart for winning. Kobe isnt happy with his environment and teammates, he comes out and demand a trade. KG cries in an interview and hides behind McHale.

  • Justin M.

    [quote comment="8288"]we aint gonna get KG, i wish we wud focus on getting JO without trading both bynum and odom…bynum

    farmar or w/e for JO!….fish, kobe, luke, odom, JO is a better lineup than if we get KG anyways…odom runs this team, we need him![/quote]

    I agree with you 100%. We’d be a way more dangerous team with Kobe, Odom, and JO than just Kobe and KG. And like I said getting JO without loosing Odom is way more plausible then getting KG period.

  • Fatty

    I would eventually give up Critt, but I would act like at first, no way, to raise his value, so we don’t have to give up too many other people. “You can have Bynum or Critt, which is it?” lol

    Does Minnie even want a point guard? I thought they want some bigs

  • Lakerboy248

    I think minny would like him, even if they don’t need a point guard. Critt can be a good back up.

  • Justin M.

    [quote comment="8287"][quote comment="8281"]Hope you’re right Fatty. And I just have to ask this, would you give up Critt for Garnett?[/quote]

    Your kidding me!!! IS this MITCH? Come on this is KEVIN FREAKING GARNETT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. SHIP Critts summer “potential super star ass out” Sorry, I like the kid and I wish we could keep him but if you tell me hes a deal breaker, your crazy!!!![/quote]

    There is something such as giving up to much for one player. Even though that one player is KG were talking about loosing Odom, Bynum, Farmar, Kwame and maybe even Critt? That my friend is to much even for the great, aging KG. The funny part is that the T wolves will most likely reject that offer any way because they don’t want to deal with us. Go for JO, we wont loose nearly as much and he can get us to that next level.

  • One35

    KG can suck my cock. you become a teacher when you tasted winning you idiot not when you haven’t what are you going to teach? that you never win? stupid silly mother focker.

  • Lakerboy248

    [quote comment="8293"][quote comment="8288"]we aint gonna get KG, i wish we wud focus on getting JO without trading both bynum and odom…bynum

    farmar or w/e for JO!….fish, kobe, luke, odom, JO is a better lineup than if we get KG anyways…odom runs this team, we need him![/quote]

    I agree with you 100%. We’d be a way more dangerous team with Kobe, Odom, and JO than just Kobe and KG. And like I said getting JO without loosing Odom is way more plausible then getting KG period.[/quote]

    But Odom plays his best ball at the 4 spot, and so does JO. I don’t think JO would play well against Amare or Duncan at the 5 spot. Don’t forget these two are very injury prone. If it a sure thing they would play ALL 82 games, then yeah the Lakers should go for that. But if not, Garnett is the BEST option.

  • THeGreatOnekb&kg

    KG its time to move on if the GM is telling u were trying to get younger and not worried about winning right now leave. your getting to old to be waiting on some youngstas to improve. a teacher role is cool but a Championship is better so teamup with the LAKERS and be a contender or be with min. and be a pretender. kb & kg & phil 4sho!!!

  • Justin M.

    Don’t forget that KG is still a BIG injury waiting to happen and I’m pretty sure JO can hold his own against Duncan and Amare.

  • Fatty

    Justin M

    Kwame and Odom satisfy the salary match. It would be who else was needed to make a deal. Farmar and Critt would not both have to go.

    Whether we get KG or not, Minnie is in trouble if KG opts out.

    If the deal is officially over, (which I don’t think it is)we will find out soon enough. Indiana papers will start to talk about a trade again and SAC Town will revisit Artest.

  • dlakerfanforlife

    Critt has the potential to be a super star. So did Kwame and look how thats going. So does Bynum. So does LO. Im tired of building a team on potential. Nine time out of 10 its a false hope. The players you thought could someday become great players never pan out. We dont have the luxury to sit back and wait and see if Critt or Bynum will ever live up to the hype. We need to do something and do it now. We have the best player on the planet and he needs consistent help to get passed the SPUR’S and Phoenix’s of the league. Doesnt anyone get that. You dont win championships with a team built on potential!!!! You build it with proven players like KG. Or we can continue to live in the same fantasy land that Mitch lives in. Were Kwame will become the next KG, and Bynum will become the next Wilt and Jordan F. Will become the next kidd. Come on wake up and smell the Java. Get guys here that can help KOBY and Do it now!!!!!!!!!!

  • Justin M.

    Fatty, no offense, but i dont think there is anyway that the T wolves are just going to take Kwame, Odom, Farmar or Critt. Bynum would have to be in it for sure because they want bigs. So it would most likely be Odom, Kwame, Farmar, and Bynum for KG which will still be most likely rejected because they dont want to deal with us

  • Brett

    Tim has the right idea. ‘Oh kevin,……. oh taylor.’

  • Fatty

    justin m

    No offense, but next time read my post. I didn’t say that. I said Kwame and Odom meet the salary match, but we would have to add other pieces.

    Your point to trade both Critt and Farmar is what made no sense to me.

  • dlakerfanforlife

    Who cares that they dont want to deal with us. Its getting to a point were they wont have a choice. All the other teams are slow dropping out of the KG race. They either deal with us or KG OPTs out and they get nothing for him. At the end of the day this is a business. Taylor will trade KG when push comes to shove even if it is to the Lakers. Like Fatty said “With the current cap that would give them only 5 mil to sign someone else. Not too good for a star player in the end, is it?” Theres still hope. Even if they dont like what were offering its better than 5 mill in cap space. You think we didnt want more for Shaq, then ODOM, Butler and Grant. Of course we did. But at the end of the day we had no choice Maimi wasnt gonna give up Wade. And we had no time or other teams in the Shaq sweepstakes and we had to get rid of him. So we got what we could. Not equal value but the best option at the time. Which is what will happen to the wolves they will eventualy run out of time and options. We just have to be patient and wait.

  • Faith

    Offtopic but OMG…AWESOME banner thingy! I abso love it! Major, major props!

    On topic lol…I think if there ever was a POS in print…that would be it. Why? Cause Kevin Garnett does not love to lose! Who wants to teach, I mean what is he teaching right now…how to lose? And do it consistently cause your front office has the brain capacity of a toad (whom I suspect is smarter than them)?

    Teaching is not just about what you’re teaching, but the environment at which you’re teaching. Sure he could be teaching them loyalty, and integrity, and for that matter,losing gracefully…but it doesn’t breed winners (to win you have to have a basis of winning to learn from…think Clippers), and it teaches them that winnning is secondary.

  • lakersforlife77

    If he truly said that and truly desires to be that then he should just retire right now and become a coach that’s all he will be worth. I can’t imagine him ever taking that stance completely I know he wants to win deep down, he just needs to learn how to set his priorities for god’s sake.

  • http://www.lakerfreak.homestead.com lakerfreak

    wow if this is ture maybe we got this guy all wrong i was under the impression that he actually wanted to win not teach young guys who wont be solid until he is ready to retire

  • Fatty

    The site heading is awsome. My favorite show has been adopted by getgarnett.com

    I forwarded it over to my friends at Fox and they loved it. They were excited and promised to have there legal boys give you a call. jk lol

  • laker2421

    Fatty what up man, listen how you feelin today after reading some of these articles?

  • Lakers305

    I officially out of the Garnett bandwagon. This guy is delirious and seems to me like he likes losing. “i want to be a teacher…”, are u kiddin me??

  • Fatty

    laker 2421

    This road to Garnett is going to be harder than I thought. Too many bumps and potholes. argh!!

    Like I said, wait to see if rumors start from Indiana about a trade with them. That may tell us if the deal is done.

  • G-Up

    Laker FAns give up on garnett, he is a typical NBA player whose goal is to get paid! He can force a trade if he wanted too, I dont buy this loyal to a fault, promise Garnett another 100 mil extension to come to LA and I’ll bet he will march to Mchales office and asked to be traded! Face it money matters!!!!!!!!!

  • G-Up

    We need to concentrate our focus towards other players more attainable like artest, face it garnett is not a SAVIOR, we already have Kobe and we can advance deep in the playoffs, we need a better overall and balance team, not gut our team up for one GUY!

  • lakerfan81

    I want KG to be in a Laker uniform. But here is my problem with doing a KG trade. Wouldn’t it be overpaying. Now I know that KG is a great player but a trade of KWame, Bynum, Oneal, Crittenton and a 2008 draft pick is a bit excessive. The lakers would be trading their entire front court for a PF. IF your traded all of our Front court then KG would be forced to play center. In the triangle that would mean he would be posting up all the time. That is not his strength (though I do think he should do that more often). You would basically be putting in a position that is not suitable for him. That is what the Lakers are doing with Odom, and what Indiana is doing with O’neal and neither of those are working out too great right now. Besides that we would have the thinnest front line in the NBA. Who would start next to Garnett? Turiaf (not a starter)? Mihm (hasn’t played in 1 1/2 yrs)? The Lakers could try to sign PJ Brown or Chris Webber but neither have shown interest in LA and both will likely join a team within a week or two. I want to see KG in LA playing with Kobe, it would be fun to watch, but I don’t know if it makes the Lakers that much better. Then we would not have any money to sign free Agents the following year (when KG will be making 24M). The Lakers would stil have the MLE but it is difficult to pay a player 3-5M when you are over the luxury tax because you would basically be paying twice that for a player that is probably barely worth the 3-5M to begin with. Also if you did not win a championship the Lakers financial situation (which is already bad) will be horrible for another 5 to 6 years. I think Jerry Buss or whoever owned the team in 4 or 5 years would be lynched by then because LA is used to winning.

    I don’t want to burst anyones bubble about getting Garnett. I am just trying to point out that it may be better for the Lakers to be patient until the right trade comes along. Even if that means sticking with the team from last year Mihm. Remember at one point the Lakers were 26-13 and in 5th place in the West. I think with the same team we will be marginally better, not at a contending level but better, plus with Odom and Brown recovered from surgery it makes them more valuable in a trade.

    If you could find a way to do a Garnett trade that did not include Brown (very very unlikely at least right now, might not be closer to february) then at least the Lakers would have someone to play center.

    The other alternative would be to trade for O’neal. Two possible trades there. One would be getting O’neal without giving up odom. The Problem with that is for that lineup to work the Lakers would still have to find a center. PJ Brown maybe if he does not sign anywhere else. You can not play O’neal at center and Odom at PF. Neither is back to basket post player and they would both be playing out of position. if you signed PJ Brown and traded for O’neal w/out Odom then you start a line up of

    PG: Fish/farmar
    SG: Kobe/Evans
    SF: Odom/Walton/Radmon
    PF: O’neal/Turiaf/Radmon
    C: Brown/Mihm

    The problem with that is you have a shallow bench (up front) and your line up is injury prone. You would probably have to include either Farmar or Crittenton in the trade as well. But I think barring any injuries that line up could contend but is it worth the risk?

    Alternatively the Lakers could do Bynum/Odom 2008 pick (nothing more except maybe sasha for expiring contract purposes) for O’neal. That would be a great defensive line up. But I think the Lakers would be losing alot offensively because O’neal is not a good passer.

    All three of these trades are very risky. The lakers would be trashing their fiscal future (and future talent) for many years to come for a 1-3 yr window chance to win a championship. IF you accept the fact that Kobe is not going anywhere for at least two years (no matter how much he bitches about it). And that the Lakers started the season at 26-13, and that their young talent Farmar, Crittenton, Bynum will at least get a little better. Then is it worth the Risk? Maybe.

    I’m not convinced that the West has gotten that much better. Porland is better but they are a yr or two away from making the playoffs (maybe in 8th before then). The clippers do not have a PG and Cassell 100 yrs old now (that might be exaggerating). Seattle is not any better than they were a year ago, they might be in a few years but not right now. Don Nelson maximized his talent last year and now they are missing Richardson so I do not think they are any better. Houston will probably be a little better with the addition of Scola and any other PF they might be able to add. Memphis is only marginally better. I think as things stand now, if Mihm comes back strong from injury the lakers are 5th seed in the West.

    Wishful thinking? Maybe.

    The point is if a good trade does not materialize then just stay with the team as it is now. Maybe make some smaller moves. Like Trading cook for someone better (anyone that can grab a rebound and at least try to play defense). I thought about a Cook 2nd round pick for Sheldon Williams but because of base year compensation the salaries do not match. Or tyring to pick up Posey in a sign and trade. Not sure if we have anything that Miami would be interested in except Javaris Crittenton and I would not trade him for Posey.

    Kobe is not going anywhere for at least two years, and in two years the team might be able to contend so he might not want to go anywhere especially since he would be making a lot less money if he left.

  • showtime88

    [quote comment="8288"]we aint gonna get KG, i wish we wud focus on getting JO without trading both bynum and odom…bynum

    farmar or w/e for JO!….fish, kobe, luke, odom, JO is a better lineup than if we get KG anyways…odom runs this team, we need him![/quote]
    exactly…i am sick of telling people this JO LO dfish kobe walton=way greater than kb and kg with gutted team.

    i wish people would listen.

  • Ted

    [quote comment="8288"]we aint gonna get KG, i wish we wud focus on getting JO without trading both bynum and odom…bynum

    farmar or w/e for JO!….fish, kobe, luke, odom, JO is a better lineup than if we get KG anyways…odom runs this team, we need him![/quote] You are an idiot Lakers8nate24. Odom has proven time after time he can’t play. All he does is go left and not play defense. I guess people like you never learn. We need KG, we can get role players, so why don’t you just shut up since you don’t know what you are talking about. Odom sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • lakerfan81

    Fatty you are wrong in your cap calculations for minnesota next year. Their salary next season is 64M with Garnetts 24M if he chooses to stay. So if he opts out that gives them a salary of 40M, but with only 9 players under contract. But that is still 15M in cap space to sign rookies (except Boston has their 1st rnd pick) and fill in roster spots or resign players. Its even even more cap space if Howard opts out.

    But this is not a good position to be in. 15M in cap space (probably more than that if the cap goes up which it probably will) is not a lot of money when you only have 9 players under contract and need at least 4 more for a league minimum of 13. That is why they want draft picks, young talent and expiring contracts. That way they have cap space and more contracts. So any cap space can go towards better players because they will have less spots to fill.

  • Fatty

    lakerfan

    I’m absolutely correct (source realgm.com) your adding in another players salary to get your figures. Just use KG’s without someone elses to be correct. That puts them at 50 mil after KG. They have another sal. coming off the books with howard, but we are talking only KG here and what they get for him.

  • Cyrus

    Fatty,

    Again, we are on the same page and I agree.

    There is one fact here that not many of you have paid attention to: Why is Glen Taylor giving all these interviews? A day after he returns from his Honeymoon?!?!

    My take: Taylor sees the clock is ticking and as you pointed out; KG’s trade value is declining as time passes. Glen ain’t gonna go out and say; Hey, anybody, please come and take KG. He’s a billionaire and knows how to sell, and that’s why he is trying to REVIVE KG trade talks with his media tour.

    The other puzzling fact is that there is total radio silence from KG camp. He’s not saying a word!!!, why?

    If all of this recent talk turn out to be true (I have reasonable doubt) and KG wants to stay in Minn forever, than I really don’t think KG is the suitable partner for Kobe. Taylor is speaking of KG, like he’s speaking of a 12 years old “daddy’s boy” who wants to stay with dad until he’s gray and old, and if that’s true (I seriously doubt it), we are after the wrong guy. It takes desire and determination to win as Kobe has exhibited his will. KG might be one the top players in this league, but that’s not enough to win.

    And finally, the notion of wanting to become a TEACHER to the younger guys, is the most stupid statement I’ve heard in basketball community. This is pure hypocrisy.

  • Fatty

    sorry if Fatty seems a little grumpy today, I have a bad headache and will take the rest of the day off. Again I apologize if sounded sharp with any of you.

    see you later

  • Cyrus

    LakerFan81 and Fatty,

    Go to this link to solve your salary issues:

    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/minnesota.htm

    07-08 salary=71.7 mil
    08-09 salary=61.3 mil (because 3 players contracts ends)

    Sorry, I didn’t mean to get involved in your discussion

  • lakerfan81

    I was adding up salaries for next year. Next year their salary is only 64M with Garnett. This year there salary is 71M but Davis’s contract is expiring, Griffin’s is expiring and so is Craig smith’s. This is assuming that they do not use sign any additional players this year.

    I am getting my numbers from http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries.htm
    It shows the full contract salaries of all signed players. But I added up the numbers wrong with Garnett Minnesota’s salary for the 2008/09 salary is 66.8M so if Garnett opts out it is 42.8M. But again they would only have 9 contracts so that is not a good position to be in especially when you do not have a 1st round draft pick.

  • KBisDarthVader

    we are all tired an frustrated with the situation. doesnt look like a deal will get done before the season starts. but despite all the let downs and the negativity of these haters, there is reason for hope.

    given that LA is one of the few places kg would be willing to sign an extension with, if minni does decide to try and move him at the deadline, we have a good shot at landing him shot. even though minni doesnt like what we have to offer, they may be looking at loosing kg for nothing or taking what we can give them…they dont want Lamars contract, so it might be possible for us to swing a deal with bynum, kwame, and filler at the deadline. probably not before that though, minni would have to be pretty desperate (which they probably will be at that point).

    despite all the bs from taylor, i think its a safe bet kg opts out after the comming season if no trade happens. assuming we dont make a major trade before then, we will have the money from kwame’s expiring contract to make kg an offer with. we would have to be one of the favorites to land kg if he becomes a free agent.

    even if we end up moving bynums contract to indy for jo (with bynum and filler…or even odom), JO has said he intends to opt out no matter where he is next year. would he really? if so its the best case scenario for us, we would get a shot at contending next season, and if it doesnt work out, JO opts out and we have that 20 mil to work with (kg another player probably)

    PATIENCE! the best thing for us to do might be to wait this situation out…one way or the other, odds are kg will be in a new jersey when the season after next starts. now that kobe has shut up (knock on wood), i am comfortable moving forward with out roster as-is for the comming season and making the best of it. no need to make a rash manuever right now, as much as I would like to see a big name come to LA this summer i would rather play it safe and smart

  • http://www.getgarnett.com Fred A.

    Someone needs to change this web site to GetJ/ONEAL.COM.
    The reason is KG is a loser and he still wants to be a loser
    so I say leave him alone. He wants to continue to lose.
    We do not want losers we want winners and someone who loves
    playing as a laker. That person is J. O’NEAL. We need to find some way some how how to get him without sending
    Odom/Sasha/Mihm/and Kwame. If we give away Kwame we need to get a big that could be Jeff Foster. The can have Bynum.
    Bynum did not show me anything or any signs of dominace.
    Line-up:
    PG:Fisher/Crittenton/Parker/Francis
    SG:Bryant/Evans/Vujuvic
    SF:Odom/Walton/Cook
    PF:J.O’Neal/Tariaf
    C: Mihm/Foster

    I love this!!!!!!!!!!

  • steve

    TO ALL MY FELLOW BLOGGERS….I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU..WHY HAVE THE CHICARGO BULLS NOT SIGNED NOAH YET?The wolves want him really bad.Something has to be going on with that…

  • dlakerfanforlife

    On a different note:
    Is Farmar expendable?
    http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22813.shtml

  • http://WWW.ALLSOUNDMUSIC.COM JCOTA

    [quote comment="8298"][quote comment="8287"][quote comment="8281"]Hope you’re right Fatty. And I just have to ask this, would you give up Critt for Garnett?[/quote]

    Your kidding me!!! IS this MITCH? Come on this is KEVIN FREAKING GARNETT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. SHIP Critts summer “potential super star ass out” Sorry, I like the kid and I wish we could keep him but if you tell me hes a deal breaker, your crazy!!!![/quote]

    There is something such as giving up to much for one player. Even though that one player is KG were talking about loosing Odom, Bynum, Farmar, Kwame and maybe even Critt? That my friend is to much even for the great, aging KG. The funny part is that the T wolves will most likely reject that offer any way because they don’t want to deal with us. Go for JO, we wont loose nearly as much and he can get us to that next level.[/quote]
    YEAH….HELL YEAH…THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT…JO MEANS WE MAY BE ABLE TO WORK ON A DEAL AND KEEP L.O.

  • Lakerboy248

    -trade Noah, Bynum, Famar/Critt, and Kwame to Minny
    -Trade Odom to the Bulls
    -Trade Garnett to the Lakers

  • dlakerfanforlife

    JO is a broken horse. Hes always hurt. KG has only missed like 11 games his entire career. Jo’s numbers also suck agains western opponents. I would much rather go after Paul Gasol. We can’t make a trade just for the sake of makeing a trade. It has to help the team.

  • dlakerfanforlife

    Lakerboy248

    [quote post="556"]-trade Noaha, Bynum, Famar/Critt, and Kwame to Minny
    -Trade Odom to the Bulls
    -Trade Garnett to the Lakers[/quote]

    Great trade now if only everyone would get on the same page and get it done.

  • Lakerboy248

    But the problem is that the Bulls didn’t sign Noah yet

  • dlakerfanforlife

    They dont need to sign him they can trade away his rights. Cant they?

  • Lakerboy248

    I dunno, ask fatty or cyrus

  • LAKERS4 LIFE

    didnt i tell all of u that kg isnt gonna come to la. im losing encouragement and feel like we should not ask FATTY for her opinion anymore

  • steve

    If they sign him they have to wait 30 days if not they can trade his rights

  • LAKERS4 LIFE

    By the way:

    Fatty should really consider changing his/her name.

  • dlakerfanforlife

    Lakerboy248
    Found this online.
    “Only players, draft-picks for the upcoming year, rights on players and GM points can be traded.”

  • LAKERS4 LIFE

    The laker nation is damn greedy and doesnt want to give up anything. Mitch should be flexible and start making resonable offers.

  • http://myspace.com/crunklilgangsta Kenny

    BOOoooooo

  • Lakerboy248

    we should really contact mitch about this, i think this could work

  • dlakerfanforlife

    Chicago would have to give up more players or it doesnt work under the salary cap. Odom is making 15 mil and Noakim is max at 4 mil. because he is a top 10 pick. The Bulls would have to send out another 8 to 10 mil in contracts to make this work. Cap rules suck!!!!!!

  • kb2481

    garnett come teach the lakers (expect kobe)

  • Q WUOR

    AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS GETTING J.O WILL PUT US OVER THE TOP? MAAN J.O IS NOT THAT FAR OFF FROM KG; BARRING INJURY OFCOURSE. LET ME ASK YOU GUYS A QUESTION

    1)WHICH PF ON THE TOP TEAMS CAN GUARD J.O?
    DIRK?NO..J.O TOO FAST AND STRONG FOR HIM
    AMARE? NO…AMARE IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH A DEFENDER TO GUARD JO
    BOOZER? 6’9 BOOZER WILL NOT EFFECTIVELY GUARD J.O
    HAYES? HOUSTON HAYES IS 2 SHORT..DON’T TELL ME YAO
    NENE? MAYBE BUT I LIKE J.O’S CHANCES
    BRAND? 6’8 BRAND GOOD HELP DEFENDER BUT TOO SHORT TO GUARD 6’11 J.O
    ONLY DUNCAN..PLUS I LIKE KOBE/J.O CHANCES VS SPURS..KOBE OWNS SPURS SO I THINK W. J.O WE WILL HANDLE SPURS PRETTY WELL.

    LETS GET J.O…ALL HIS MISSES GETS PUT BACK BY MIHM..MIHM’S HOOK IS NOT BAD EITHER..MIHM IS A DECENT SHOT BLOCKER WITH A JUMPER. IF BOTH MIHM AND J.O POST UP ON EACH SIDE ON OFFENSE LEAVING VLAD, KOBE, FISHER TO PLAY PERIMETER WE ARE GONNA BE UNSTOPPABLE..

    GET J.O EVEN IF IT COST US INJURY PRONE-LAMAR & I’M-NOT-SURE-IF-I’M-GONNA-BE-GOOD-BYNUM..
    I’M NOT SURE HOW GOOD WE BECOME WITH J.O BUT I KNOW WE DON’T GET OUT OF THE 1ST ROUND WITH BYNUM AS OUR ONLY CONSISTENT BACK TO THE BASKET GUY.

    GET J.O

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=AEIj41qHjuQ&mode=related&search=

  • Lakerboy248

    [quote comment="8349"]Chicago would have to give up more players or it doesnt work under the salary cap. Odom is making 15 mil and Noakim is max at 4 mil. because he is a top 10 pick. The Bulls would have to send out another 8 to 10 mil in contracts to make this work. Cap rules suck!!!!!![/quote]

    Oh well, it was a thought….

  • two0one7

    Interesting tidbit I read. Take it for what it’s worth.

    Garnett in L.A.

    The Daily News’ Matt Kredell reports that Kevin Garnett was at UCLA yesterday, watching some tennis. Garnett told Matt that he’s friends with Mardy Fish, who was playing a match against Sam Querrey. Garnett wouldn’t give up any information about whether he might be staying in L.A. on a longer-term basis…

    Also, Kredell stayed to watch James Blake. Blake said he is friends with Garnett’s agent and that Fish is friendds with Garnett’s wife. Professional sports is a small world…

    http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/

  • GOD

    we got enough youngens for Garnett to teach! shit, we even have old players who could have a lesson or 2. Even Mitch is learning…

  • GOD

    Let me get this straight. They pretty much told Garnett, “we trynna move in a different direction” and Garnett said ” oh me too, were we goin?” SMH!!!!

  • LAalltheway

    [quote comment="8352"][quote comment="8349"]Chicago would have to give up more players or it doesnt work under the salary cap. Odom is making 15 mil and Noakim is max at 4 mil. because he is a top 10 pick. The Bulls would have to send out another 8 to 10 mil in contracts to make this work. Cap rules suck!!!!!![/quote]

    Oh well, it was a thought….[/quote]

    They talk about this trade in the hoopsworld.com Farmar article. They propose a Farmar and Odom for Noah and PJ Brown trade that would work out quite nicely. Keep your fingers crossed.

  • Cyrus

    ***FRESH FROM THE OVEN****
    This Article just popped out on Hoopsworld.com

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22813.shtml

    It talks about Farmar in a trade, it also talks about a possible 3 way trade between Bulls, Wolves and Lakers!

  • dlakerfanforlife

    This things been out over an hour and half. Look at the post weve been talking about this trade since about 2:00pm

  • lakerfan81

    I do not think chicago will go for that trade. I also do not think that PJ brown would agree to a sign and trade to Minnesota.

  • Cyrus

    As Steve pointed out; why isn’t Joakim Noah signed yet. Are Bulls planing a sign-and -trade? If so, it must be a blockbuster trade because, in my personal opinion, Noah has a very bright future in this league, not only because of his skills, he’s also very determined.

  • Cyrus

    Correction:
    I know a sign-and-trade with a draft pick must go through the 30-days NBA mandatory wait period. Now, I don’t know if Bulls could simply send Noah to another team without signing him first. I will research that. But if you know the answer, please post.

  • dlakerfanforlife

    You can trade his rights without signing him.

  • ray

    yes..you can trade w/o signing first. thats what the celts did on draft day…remember?

  • KBisDarthVader

    trade would be great for everyone, but…

    as the hoopsworld article points out, the trade would elminate the posibility of chicago getting kb or kg in the next few years. chi town is under no pressure to make something happen, so i dont think they would pull the trigger…after all, if kobe resumes his trade-me bullshit next off season chi will be one of the few teams that could get him…same goes for kg, chi has a legit chance to sign him if he opts out

    lamar in chi would put them at the top of the east though, they wouldnt have to give up ish to get him either! do it!

  • lakerfan81

    You can trade his rights without signing him, But then he has no value as far matching salaries is concerned, If you sign him then you have to wait 30 days.

    Cyrus, I disagree with you. I do not think Noah has that much potential. I think he will be a great role player off the bench. A guy that comes in with a lot of energy and gets a few rebounds, maybe a blocked shot, a lot hustle plays, and maybe a few junk baskets off of offensive rebounds but that is all I think he will be. An Verajoa (or however you spell his name) type player.

    I also do not think Farmar is as expendable as Pincus thinks. I rather like our three headed PG right now. I do not think that Fisher will be starting; Farmar will. Fisher will come off the bench and play in the 4th quarter. He will get about 20-25 minutes a game so that Phil can save him for the playoffs where he will get more minutes. I am also not sold on Crittenton being a valuable reserve right away. The kid has the full package to be a star; athleticism, strength, quickness, size, but he still has a long way to come.

    Farmar may be expendable if he is moved in a blockbuster trade, but that leaves the Lakers very thin at the PG position.

  • lakerfollower111

    i think that getting artest will be enough to make the lakers into a contender next year. trade kwame and farmar and a pick for artest and then well have kobe, artest, lamar, bynum, and fisher. plus we still have mo evans, luke walton, radmanovic who has a lot to prove, turiaf on our bench. with artest and kobe well be much better defensively and this will allow kobe to save his energy for offense. artest becomes the #2 option and odom becomes the #3 option that everyone wants him to be. getting artest should do make us instant contenders

  • Cyrus

    Thanks for the clarification on selling the draft rights. I always thought the draft rights could be sold no later than 2:00pm EST on June 28th. I guess I was misinformed.

    Reg. Noah, as I said, it’s just my personal opinion, like everything else, we may differ on how we see the future of a player. And, we won’t know until we see him in action with savvy NBA players.

    I also remember (not that it had any effect on my opinion) Jerry West was talking very highly of Noah. I watched Florida wining 2 titles and I saw this kid playing. I was impressed, at least on my eyes.

  • lakerfan81

    Cyrus I like Noah very much. If I had a team that he is someone I would love to have on my team. As i said he will be a extremely valuable role player, the type of player that any team would want. The type of player that can change the momentum of a game just with his energy. A more athletic and talented Turiaf (with more experience too). I just don’t think he will be a star.

  • Cyrus

    Now, back to Garnett issue and the latest news and owner’s statements. Maybe we’re in denial, or I shall say; I am in denial. Maybe this whole Garnett discussion is just a waste of time. If Taylor’s statements reg. KG are true that he wants to stay, than I have been rooting and hoping for the wrong player. Is doesn’t make sense to me that a 10 or 11 time Allstar player like KG having such a low octane drive to win. I have seen this guy crying with real tears in his eyes, and now he wants to be teacher?

    I don’t know about you guys, but regrettably, I am losing faith in Kevin Garnett. It seems to me that he’s comfortably numb and doesn’t want to make any effort to change the status quo. It seems to me that he’s forgotten that he came to NBA to win not just to get paid $20-Mil plus every year.

    I hope he comes out soon and proves otherwise.

  • laker2421

    [quote comment="8379"]Now, back to Garnett issue and the latest news and owner’s statements. Maybe we’re in denial, or I shall say; I am in denial. Maybe this whole Garnett discussion is just a waste of time. If Taylor’s statements reg. KG are true that he wants to stay, than I have been rooting and hoping for the wrong player. Is doesn’t make sense to me that a 10 or 11 time Allstar player like KG having such a low octane drive to win. I have seen this guy crying with real tears in his eyes, and now he wants to be teacher?

    I don’t know about you guys, but regrettably, I am losing faith in Kevin Garnett. It seems to me that he’s comfortably numb and doesn’t want to make any effort to change the status quo. It seems to me that he’s forgotten that he came to NBA to win not just to get paid $20-Mil plus every year.

    I hope he comes out soon and proves otherwise.[/quote]
    Cyrus Great post and I agree with you 100%. Do I want KG in LA? Hell yeah. Are the Lakers gonna get KG? Hell NO! FO would need a miracle right now, either KG finally mans up and asks to come here(LA)or a 3-4 team trade that actually benefits all teams that every GM signs off on(never gonna happen).Hate to say it LakerNation I think we are Fuctd!