A Sac Bee columnist speculates? Or perhaps hints to us that the Kings might be open to Artest + Shelden Williams + Quincy Douby for Lamar Odom. The article is titled “The other Lakers-Kings trade that would work.” Would you do the trade now? Sound off!

Sacramento Bee: This is the potential compromise. Kenny Thomas out, Shelden Williams and Quincy Douby in. No difference to the Kings in lineup impact, big difference to the Lakers in money.

It’s still Ron Artest for Lamar Odom at the bottom line, except the salary-cap ballast has changed and the Lakers, in this version that will undoubtedly be discussed between the teams, if it hasn’t been already, get away from Thomas and his $17.3375 million due the next two seasons. For a team paying the dollar-for-dollar luxury tax, as L.A. is, that’s actually a $34.675-million hit for Thomas. You can see the hesitation.

Williams is on the books for $3.4 million in 2008-09 and Douby for $1.43, along with Artest’s $7.4 to match up under the cap rules to Odom’s $14.15 million. Nearly 5 mil combined for a power forward that never plays and a guard that never plays is a bad thing. But Williams and Douby have guaranteed money next season only while Thomas is down for two more and, specifically, $8.775 million in the second one. That’s the key.

Taking Artest, Williams and Douby, the Lakers are bringing on $12.23 million ($24.46 including the luxury tax) for 2008-09 and nothing after. Total commitment: $24.46 million.

Taking Artest and Thomas, the Lakers are bringing on $16 million ($32 mil) for 2008-09 and $8.775 ($17.55 mil). Total commitment: $49.55.

Obviously a massive difference.

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  • lakerschamps09

    man this is good stufff… but i wanna keep LO

  • lakers24

    The Lakers Should Do This Trade
    - http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=25~3000~2755~849~3040~617~1016~2027&teams=13~13~13~13~13~23~23~23&te=&cash=13:23

    by the end of 2008-09 season they will have lots of cap room.

  • Geloman

    in a heart beat. we get a big in return to replace turiaf and scorer in douby to replace sashe if he leaves. do this mitch.

  • http://deleted Unstoppable423

    man this is a sweet trade but i love havin LO and i would hate to give him up for artest that is crazy n can just leave our team next season as a free agent

  • DCLAKER

    KEEP LO! KEEP LO! KEEP LO! Trade Vlad,PLEASE(I DON’T CARE WHAT HIS CONTRACT IS)!

  • The Cougar

    that would be almost as a good as kwame and crit for Gasol! id do it in a heartbeat

  • gspence001

    this is such a steal for artest..if this article is valid artest might just fall into our lap

  • xtro

    do it!! shelden williams will be so happy to play in L.A. he is candace parker’s significant other i believe. pull the trigger mitch!!!

  • e

    this would be a great trade

  • Kobe2k9

    I’d also do this in a heartbeat, but Rasheed would be nice too, but i need to vent because im kinda getting sick of it so here i go: i dont understand why people like LO, they need to stop listening to what writers and so-called basketball analyst, just watch the video of his games, he’s mentally weak, no jumpshot, ballhandling skills way overrated, a liability in crunch time, remember him airballing a game winning jumpshot, and all this versatility stuff like makes me laugh, Tayshaun Prince is versatile, not LO. LO is what he is now, he’s not going to change, we need a different mindset in our team, no more “SOFTIES”. I understand he’s a nice person, and people might feel sorry for him, but his game doesn’t fit with what we need, and real Laker team fans not LO fans understand that we need to do what’s best for our team,”nobody’s untouchable besides Kobe” and he’s not in our best interest, and I am also getting tired of people suggesting trades or things that will never happen nor can’t like waiving players LUKE AND VLADE, or just trading them two for one good player even though I would love for this to happen in my lifetime, but if you understand basketball and how the NBA works that will never happen ever! Go LAKERS!

  • LAKing

    Hell yeah, I would do this trade in a heartbeat, MAKE IT HAPPEN MITCH!!!!

  • LAKing

    BYE BYE ODOM!!!!!!

  • lakerferlife7

    wat makes everyone think that lamars not gnna leave at the end of the season??????we all thought that there was no way turiaf would leave..and look what happened…everyone keeps sayin that lamar will take a pay cut….how the fuuck would anybody no that…

  • Short Diezel

    please tell me why some people are stuck on keeping lamar? Artest can do EVERYTHING lamar can do and better!

    this is as close as we are going to get to a perfect trade for Lamar without giving up too much money and/or players.. we get a quality small forward on both sides of the court, and a decent back-up power forward to take Turiaf’s position…

    if it were up to me, Lamar would be packing his bags

  • lakerfan81

    What about reboudning? If they Lakers trade Odom, they lose their best rebounder. No guarantee that Bynum comes back strong, and able to play significant minutes. If you trade Odom, that leaves the front court depth as Gasol (who is playing in the Olympics and has been injury prone for the last few season), Bynum (who is 20, coming back from a knee injury, and has only played well in 30 NBA games, Mihm (who hasn’t been able tp play in 2 1/2 seasons) and (Sheldon Williams who couldn’t even get off the bench on a bad Sac team) not exactly the kind of front court depth that intimidates anyone.

  • http://- Kobefan11

    DO IT MITCH!!!

  • BringDFishBack

    Ok, there’s quite a few reasons why this will never go down and why it should never. First of all, the Kings would have to be morons. They’re in a rebuilding process and they are going to trade 2 of their best prospects? No, never gonna happen. Second, the Lakers have no use for another young point guard. They are set at that position. When Fish’s contract is up in 2 years, Farmar will be completely ready to fulfill the starting role. Not only that, but they have Sun Yue waiting to come in as soon as they need him, so there is no use in getting Douby. Third, the Lakers will not and should not trade Odom. What happens when Bynum has a set back to start the season? What happens when he is slow coming back? What happens when he can’t play 30-35 minutes right away? Who is going to play power foward? Odom is extremely valuable to this team at this point. He can play PF if needed, which is likely, but can also play SF once Bynum is fully healthy. There’s only a few other guys in the league that can do that, but Odom knows and understands the triangle and all the guys on the team. More importantly, taking such a major component off the team would completely screw up the chemistry and it would have to be completely rebuilt. Don’t do it.

  • BringDFishBack

    [Comment ID #46080 Will Be Quoted Here]

    What the hell are you on? Artest can grab 20 boards in a game? He can average 10 rebounds for a season? He can play point well in the triangle? He can play PF and guard guys who are 7-0? Get real. Sorry, but Artest is not a PF. For now, the Lakers need someone who can play both the PF and SF positions and be flexible around how Bynum returns.

  • Kevin Garnett

    You guys should keep Sasha and Lamar. Move Luke Walton and Radmanovich into the starting line up too!!! You don’t need Artest either.

    “I love L.A.”

    Hahahaha!!!

    You Laker fans kill me.

  • dom3983

    I keep hearing this “What about our rebounding?”. I didnt see much rebounding from LO in the finals. he was no factor. he is a nice player, but he is the only piece they can trade to make themselves tougher. plus it looks like they arent gonna resign him. this day of him be trading was coming ever since he got traded here. yea we lose some size but bostons bigs werent that big when you compare perkins and pj to LO and Pau and they pushed the lakers around. they are more physical, big difference between bigger and physical. they even push bynum around in the regular season. artest will add toughness and defense. plus he is a good scorer, strong driver, good outside shooter and makes plays as well with passing.

  • Freshh


    Hmm

  • http://myspace.com/brittnay678 Brittnay

    Ever wonder why all the Artest rumors are coming from the SAC BEE!?!?!?! Because everyone in Sacramento wants this trade to happen. They are a loosing team with a star who has a loosing attitude (as of right now anyway). The Kings FO isn’t stupid. They know with a Bynum, Gasol and Odom front court the Lakers will be the best interior defensive and def and off rebounding team in the league and they will be more than glad to take that away from us. We have a starting lineup of Fisher, Kobe, Odom, Gasol, and Bynum. Tell me how many GM’s would kill for that starting 5? FOR THE LAST TIME, WE DO NOT NEED TO TRADE LO, STOP POSTING THESE TRADE RUMORS FOR SACRAMENTO AND STOP WANTING A TRADE ONLY BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SHOW OFF A NEW JERSEY RATHER THEN CARE FOR WHATS BEST FOR THE TEAM. Hope I put a rest to the rumors for good so we can concentrate on team USA and winning a title with the team we already have. LOL, glad I got that of my chest.

    -Brittnay :]

  • DCLAKER

    Forget’em,check this dude out,

  • Short Diezel

    [Comment ID #46086 Will Be Quoted Here]

    What am I on? I think you should be asking yourself that question..

    Lamar will NOT be playing power forward anymore so his boards will be limited.. he will be playing small forward.. think about it unless it hurts you too much..

    Lamar can NOT play small forward.. why? cause he has no mid-range jumpshot, can’t drive to the left, can’t drive to the right without causing a charge, inconsistent at the free throw line, mediocre passing skills, he will have to chase guys smaller than him exerting his energy on the offensive end and causing unnecessary fouls which will put him and the team in foul trouble.. his mental state is fragile to say the least..etc. etc..

    Artest can play 3 positions if need be (shooting guard, small and power forward).. obviously he is most effective as a small forward but he is capable of playing all of them.. he can play with his back to the basket or straight up.. sweet mid-range jumpshot.. can hit from beyond the arc.. consistent free throw %, HUGE defensive presence which is obviously what we were missing last season.. brings INTENSITY into the game.. is NOT afraid of anyone..he is a threat on boths sides of the court

    and even if it takes Bynum a little time to come back, I can guarantee that the Lakers will be a more well rounded and successful team with Artest in the line-up.. I’ll take Kobe/ARTEST/Pau/Bynum before Kobe/Lamar/Pau/Bynum anyday of the week…

  • http://myspace.com/thaonlyrhom RD

    DONT DO IT! wherever artest goes, trouble follows. this guy is a poison. i dont have faith in this nutcase any damn bit!

    FISH/KB/LO/PAU/BYNUM

    FTW! FTNBA!

    thats UNSTOPPABLE!

    just re-sign sasha, and add a vet PF/C to replace ronny, and try to trade away fluke or raddamnovic!!!

  • daboss1849

    [Comment ID #46094 Will Be Quoted Here]

    Why don’t you go shopping and put something sexy on for me…

  • LakersFirst

    Financially for the Lakers, this is the best they are going to get from Sac. The Lakers will only trade LO for expiring contracts, and this one does that. Artest is an unrestricted free agent after next year, but the Lakers will probably want to resign him after next season somehow.

    Taking on Kenny Thomas and the $8.5M he is owed in the 09/10 season would hurt the Lakers financial flexibility going in to the 09/10 season. Replacing Thomas with Sheldon Williams and Quincy Douby is better financially because both Willians and Douby are restricted free agents after next year (Williams has qualifying offer of $4.5M after next season and Douby has qualifying offer of $2.1M), so the Lakers could technically not extend the qualifying offers to them and let them walk after next season, thus allowing the Lakers to make a better offer to Artest’ contract extension.

  • Smush Walton

    FINALLY SOME INTELILGENT COMMENTS ABOUT LAMAR!
    Thank you Kobe2k9 – I couldn’t have said it better myself:

    “I dont understand why people like LO, they need to stop listening to what writers and so-called basketball analyst, just watch the video of his games, he’s mentally weak, no jumpshot, ballhandling skills way overrated, a liability in crunch time, remember him airballing a game winning jumpshot, and all this versatility stuff like makes me laugh, Tayshaun Prince is versatile, not LO. LO is what he is now, he’s not going to change, we need a different mindset in our team, no more “SOFTIES”. I understand he’s a nice person, and people might feel sorry for him, but his game doesn’t fit with what we need, and real Laker team fans not LO fans understand that we need to do what’s best for our team,”nobody’s untouchable besides Kobe” and he’s not in our best interest.”

    We have to understand Lamar had been with us now for FOUR YEARS now! Next year is his TENTH season as a pro! He’s been learning and studying, and we’ve been talking about his “potential” and waiting for him to become the star everyone claims he can be, but sorry folks, it ain’t happening! This guy would be a worthwhile reserve at best, but he’s way over paid for what we are getting.

    Time to try to get someone who would better fill our needs. Let’s get this done Mitch before this deal dies on the vine.

  • Laker Man

    isn’t there a way that the lakers can trade luke and vlad?

  • Short Diezel

    [Comment ID #46103 Will Be Quoted Here]

    AMEN!!

  • MILO

    no im not intereted in trading for Artest!!!

  • DCLAKER

    Yeah! Call Chi-Town and hope for the best,

  • lafanfromindiana

    The more I think about trading Odom, the less I want to do it. I think Pau is pretty soft and I’m not sold on Bynum like the rest of the world is. Bynum had 1 good half of a season and everyone thinks he’s a superstar. Yes, I was very impressed by Bynum at the beginning of the season before the injury but thats all I have seen from the guy. I hope we keep Sasha and trade Farmar.

  • ab4sure

    If this is true we know the kings want to move artest and probably really want LO. Kings have shown more of their cards. I think they want to do a trade quickly before the season. They don’t want Artest to be a distraction and therefore make his value go down. Longer we wait the better price we get for Artest. IMO

  • DCLAKER
  • DCLAKER
  • http://www.myspace.com/guszo gus26

    this is the trade we should do.. it makes sense for both teams.. honestly we are giving up 2 very young and talented guys.. i really hate to have to give up farmar.. but i think this is the trade the kings say yes to.. just take a look.. promise its not a stupid one..

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2426~3002~1016~25~3000&teams=23~23~23~13~13&te=&cash=

  • Geloman

    [Comment ID #46082 Will Be Quoted Here]

    I’d rather lose a bit on the rebounding side then have a soft player who can only go in one direction and cannot hit a jumpshot. Bynum, 100% or not is going to give us good rebounding as well as Pau. Throw in a big like Williams who used to be a lottery pick if I recall and a quality shooter and scorer like Douby.

    Not to mention they all come cheaper then Artest and Thomas or Odom alone. I really think Williams and Douby can add and strengthen our bench even more than last year.

  • DubG87

    haha

  • http://www.myspace.com/guszo gus26

    if we do the trade that i suggested we have a line up that looks like this…

    Fisher/ Douby
    Kobe/
    Artest/ Luke
    LO/
    Gasol/ Bynum/ Mihm

    sign Sasha and Garbajosa.. and we are set..
    plus if we do the trade we save about 2 million off the current salary.. we are still in the luxury tax area but 2 mill is 2 mill.. right?..

  • yellowpurplefever

    LAKERFIRST AND SHORT DIESEL
    I am with you guys on this trade. Makes total sense. Hope this happens soon.

  • colinbeme123

    That farmar-ariza trade is just stupid…i dont mind giving farmar, but not ariza! I think imma go talk to Lamar and report back to you guys, he lives in my city about 3 minutes away from my house

  • David
  • lskerfan567

    [Comment ID #46095 Will Be Quoted Here]

    do a trade with the bulls and the lakers

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3032~2027&teams=13~4&te=&cash=4:13

    and we can trade vlad to the clips for a second round pick

  • lskerfan567

    we should start sending scouts to chinese town cause the chinks can play

  • goodfella

    anyboydy else watching the darkk knight tonight?

  • http://kb24.com Ed2424

    ESPN is reporting that Walton had successful ankle surgery and that he should be ready to go in 6 weeks.

  • Rpoc

    Two disappointing prospects, especially Williams. That’s better than the ish that was Thomas.

    Keep upping the offer Sac media! Entertaining.

  • Shaq786

    if Lamar goes down for sheldan williamf, douby and artest… that would be freaking AWESOME for us

    i would get GSW invilved and swing, douby and mihm… for Kelenna Azubuki (i spelled it wrong) and a furture second round pick… KA is an awesome defender and can drive to the hoop… he is freaking a strong SG!.. I mean he causes Kobe some difficulty, which is extremely difficult!

    SIGN KWAME BROWN , DAMMIT!!!

    LINE UP:

    D-fish/farmar/yue
    kobe/KA
    Artest/Ariza/Walton
    Gasol/V.rad/Williams
    Bynum/Kwame/Williams

  • Rpoc

    Omfg, Kwame and Williams. One is big man who plays soft and the other is a doofus. That’s intimidation right there!

  • Shaq786

    Kwame is worth every penny if under 3 million/year… plays great defense, and anyone who argues that doesn’t know BBALL.. he sucks on offense, and we don’t need that from him anymore, with gasol and bynum down low!

  • Freshh

    Why don’t you go shopping and put something sexy on for me…

    ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
    i was dyin, almost spit the sprite on the laptop too
    HAHA, step ya game up BOSS!!

    HAHA.
    Anyways in the words of Malcolm X
    “By any means Necessary” get artest
    {not really}
    but lets get a good deal goiN!!

  • Smush Walton

    “What the hell are you on? Artest can grab 20 boards in a game? He can average 10 rebounds for a season? He can play point well in the triangle? He can play PF and guard guys who are 7-0?”

    What the hell are you on?
    And Lamar can do these things?
    Seems to me he played ONE good quarted against the SuckDics.
    His defense? – Please, it sucks!
    His ability to play “point” – that’s a joke!

    His outside shooting is ATROCIOUS!

    Any time he dribbles more than ONCE he is a charge foul waiting to happen or he ends up flinging up a goofy shot as he’s falling to the ground.

    His Defense? You mean standing there waving his arms as someone drives right by him? You call that defense?
    Good God! He can barely move his feet!

    This guy is a RESERVE at best. What on earth do you fools see in this clown? He’s a 10 year pro who’s still struggling to figure out his game! And the amount of money we pay for this guy is beyond reason. If someone is willing to give us a quality player WE MUST DEAL THIS GUY!

    WAKE UP PEOPLE! OPEN YOUR EYES!

  • Smush Walton

    Sure we want to trade Smush Walton, Vlad Moronovich, and Mihm. Just getting rid of these three would be a HUGE improvement. Unfortunately, not to many teams are interested in picking up these three rags.

    Lame-O is our most tradeable piece.

    Oh, and I forgot to add above he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer (if you’ve ever heard him interviewed).
    And the fact that he was ARRIVING at a night club after midnight the night before they flew back to Boston for game 6 says a lot about his dedication and work ethic.

  • west213

    IM JUST FUKIN TIRED OF THIS RUMORS AND ARTICLES WAIT AND SEE WAT WILL HAPPEN

    my suggestions: KEEP LO FO SHO

  • http://lakers.com TRADE_WALTON_VAD

    TRADE THOSE TWO SORRY AZZZ PLAYERSSS LUKE WALTON N RADMOVONICH>>>KEEEP LO….

    SHIP THoSe 2 oUT…LUKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEE??????? CmON KNOW LUKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • lskerfan567

    [Comment ID #46100 Will Be Quoted Here]

    lmfao, somebody got told!!

    that was very sexus……

  • lskerfan567

    why in every pic that you guys post of artest looks like he just finsh smokingillegal substances(by that i’m say that hes a pothead)

  • lskerfan567
  • Odom the worst player

    Smush Walton,thank you so much for pointing out how bad this Odom is. These people who want to keep this clown just don’t know basketball. Let me add a few comments to your article. What makes me so mad at this idiot is he doesn’t even try to block shots. Instead he rather stand there and hold his hands in the air. To me that’s letting your team down not to even try, but I’m starting to see that we are wasting time trying to get these Odom lovers to see this idiot can’t and wont play. For all the people who knows Odom sucks I hope this trade goes through. Keep your fingers crossed.

  • Edward

    If Odom somehow miraculously got Turiaf’s aggressiveness and humbled himself to Bynum’s willingness to learn, he’d be good. Same thing with Kwame. Enough said. I play ball and some days I play like crap. Sometimes I tell myself its because I lifted before playing. I’m 6’4″ and am considered pretty tall in the local gyms. All I have to say is when I play some days… and want the ball. I’ve grabbed 6 offensive boards in one possession, gotten steals, put backs, blocks… I was a hustle player. Kwame Brown and Odom have the bodies to be amazing basketball players… they just need discipline and some experience with them breaking habits and finding out that things that they usually don’t do can help. I recently practiced my left handed shot, and using my pivot foot in the post… amazing how open it gets you. As far as Artests… the only thing I can forsee as a potential downfall of the trade is another point guard (hopefully we can get rid of him) and a lineup variability loss. Keep in mind… LO Bynum and Gasol give for some VERY intricate combinations at the 4 and 5. Gasol/Bynum, Odom/Bynum, Odom/Gasol, all leads to getting lots of rest, and having constant quality size in there.

  • MILO

    [Comment ID #46115 Will Be Quoted Here]

    IM GLAD THEY TOOK OUT THOMAS (16MILL) OUT OF THE PAKAGE AS WELL,BUT I STILL WANA WAIT TILL ARTEST IS A FREE AGENT…

  • Shaq786

    how to get artest with out taking on kenny thomas’s contract!!!

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=549~617~25~849~788~831&teams=23~5~13~5~13~23&te=&cash=

    Lakers trade: Lamar Odom, Joe Crawford and Chris Mihm
    Lakers get: Artest, JJ Hickson, and Joe Smith

    CLE trade: Wally Szczerbiak, JJ Hickson, and Joe Smith
    CLE get: Lamar Odom, Joe Crawford, and Kenny thomas

    SAC trade: Artest and Kenny Thomas
    SAC get: Wally Szczerbiak, Chris Mihm

    *** If cleveland is interested in taking on another contract with a a young PG prospect in exchange for one more of their expiring contracts… we can trade V.RAD and farmar for eric snow!

    SIGN KWAME BROWN!!!

    LINE UP:

    D-fish/*(farmar)/Sasha
    kobe/Sasha/Ariza
    Artest/Ariza/Walton
    Gasol/Smith/*(V.rad)/Hickson
    Bynum/Kwame/Smith

  • gus26

    Fisher/ Farmar/ Douby
    Kobe/ Sasha/
    Artest/ Ariza/ Vlad/ Luke
    Gasol/ Williams
    Bynum/ Mihm

    it actually doesn’t look that bad.. i think i like it.. if you know bball you can look at all the different line ups.. sliding artest to the 4 if gasol is in foul trouble with kobe to the 3 and farmar at the 2 or sasha at the 2.. with the guys on this team we could actually have a big get in foul trouble and bring in a guard.. doesn’t look bad at all..

    by the way.. did anyone realize that douby dropped 32 point on us the final game of the season.. 32!!!..

  • 2inthepink1inthestink

    [Comment ID #46100 Will Be Quoted Here]

    You do know that Brittany’s name and pic is probably someone else. You probably just hit on a 300lb. hairy guy that lives with his mom…

  • pjt

    I think to get Artest Sac may be asking for Odom and Farmar…Since PJ always wants tall guards in the triangle…I say Farmar would be better in Sac. IF we get Artest…

  • Gelo

    [Comment ID #46085 Will Be Quoted Here]

    This comment doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. Drew was out all of the second half of the season and the playoffs and finals and we fell short with Odom at PF. Clearly Odom has been with the Lakers for 4 years and the experiment has only proven that Odom is only consistent and being inconsistent even with a major piece out of the lineup. Granted, Odom improved with Pau next to him, it wasn’t at the level that we all have expected day in and day out. He had flashes of brilliance at times, but dissapeared when it counted most. He had one great series in the playoffs, and that was it.

    If this deal happens, and it’s a big IF, we not only get a proven allstar and one of the top 5 defenders in the league, we get 2 young quality prospects. Also, we get a true SF who can spread the floor with his shooting (which Odom can’t do consistently) and demands double teams which opens things up even more for Pau and Drew. And all we lose is an inconsistent softy in Odom. Artest is a higher level player than Odom and we get 2 quality bench players on top of that. One of which was a top 10 pick in the draft in Shelden Williams. It’s almost like the Kings are begging us to take Ron Ron.

    We need to do this if it comes to fruition. With Turiaf gone and the health of Drew up in there, we can’t go wrong with this trade.

    Do it Mitch!!

  • pr0mega

    I love how you all call Odom inconsistent as if Artest IS consistent…

    If we do get Artest, you’ll all end up bashing him too for clogging the offense, being a glory hog, and caring more about himself than the team. Odom puts the Lakers over himself and is a team player. Look how he played along Pau… Amazing at times. Now image him as the THIRD biggest guy on the court, he’d dominate more often and make incredible plays for the other bigs… All artest can do is Defend a little better than Kobe and Ariza… Waste of time and money.

  • SEAN

    i dont want artest keep the team how it is it will work we will get to the promise land again and we will win a championship. just because boston beat us that does not mean Sh*t. i dont want to sound like im making excuses but they had there full roster in which they were healthy. rember BYNUM was not there. ariza was still rusty, d-fish ahd a messed up leg, and the mvp had a f*cked up finger on his shooting hand. now imagine all these players healthy just like the boston squad and it would have been a diffrent outcome! so keep the damn squad

  • SEAN

    i dont want artest keep the team how it is it will work we will get to the promise land again and we will win a championship. just because boston beat us that does not mean Sh*t. i dont want to sound like im making excuses but they had there full roster in which they were healthy. rember BYNUM was not there. ariza was still rusty, d-fish ahd a messed up leg, and the mvp had a f*cked up finger on his shooting hand. now imagine all these players healthy just like the boston squad and it would have been a diffrent outcome! so keep the damn squad

  • Smush Walton

    Artest would have to really work to match what Lamar brings us;

    Numerous charge fouls, atrocious outside shooting, clumsy drives to the hoop leading to awkwardly thrown up shots hopelessly flung up while clumsily falling down, always driving only one way into a waiting defender who is parked there waiting on his left side, oh yes any those brilliant dribbling exhibitions with his goofy jerking around then firing up an airball. Yes it will certainly be hard for Artest to match Lame-ar.

  • Smush Walton

    Gosh I forget to mention how difficult it will be for Artest to match Lame-O’s defense – standing straight up, waving his arms like a scarcrow as someone drives by him, picking up STUPID fouls and then laughing MINDLESSLY when called for them. Yes, it will sure be hard for Artest to match all that Lame-O brings to the table.

  • SEAN

    ok lets see ur super hero artest guard someone like kevin garnett. artest would have got sh*tted on by KG. so forget this guy and keep lamar!

  • RoCa24

    SW you’re right when you say that LO likes to do that, however this is the same guy that brings a double-double every night, a 6-10 PF with the mentality of a PG, why do you think the Kings would make this trade? Do you know that the combination of LO, Bynum and Pau could avg almost 30 rpg,5 bpg not to mention the perfect guys to play the triangle offense. Yes the guy needs to work on his defense and if he can do that, 2008-09 will be our year.

  • RoCa24

    The first thing that Mitch should do is sign Sasha then look for players like K.Thomas to replace Ronny; Mo Evans to replace Newble, B. Bass to replace Mbenga and a PG’s like J. Pargo or K.Rush, guys who know how to run the triangle offense cause they’ve been here before. About the defense issue he should hire a defensive coach. This is a cheapest solution to our problems and we don’t have to take chances bringing a troublemaker to mess with our chemistry.

  • http://myspace.com/brittnay678 Brittnay

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    LOL, Omg you made me laugh so hard I almost cried. You couldn’t have described yourself more better :]

  • ab4sure

    Britt got the last laugh.

  • daboss1848

    for clarification purposes, 9′s sexist and chauvinistic views do not reflect the views of the true boss(8) in the nation

  • Edward

    Lets stop the foolishness… this talk should be about baskettball.

  • DCLAKER

    ….and speaking of Basketball,I’m in the mood to talk…..TRADE VLAD!

    bYnUm and tHoMaS would be A MONSTA COMBO FOR YEARS!!!

  • lskerfan567

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    ay what bout sebastion telafair

  • Lakers24

    The Lakers Should Do This Trade
    - http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=25~3000~2755~849~3040~617~1016~2027&teams=13~13~13~13~13~23~23~23&te=&cash=13:23

    by the end of 2008-09 season they will have lots of cap room.

  • Shaq786

    i got the perfect trade where we can get young talent, get 2 big expiring contracts, and dump v.lad’s contract

    3-way trade (LAL/SAC/CLE):

    lakers trade: Odom, v.lad, Mihm, coby karl, rights to Joe Crawford, and trevor ariza
    Lakers recieve: Wally, Artest, and J.J. Hickson

    Sac trades: Artest and a ’09 second round pick
    Sac Recieves: Joe Smith and Trevor Ariza

    Clevland trades: Wally, Joe Smith, J.J. Hickson
    Clevland Recieves: Lamar Odom, Mihm, rights to Joe Crawford, a ’09 second round pick (from SAC) and Vlad.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=788~831~25~2426~549~617~1016&teams=23~13~13~23~5~5~5&te=&cash=

    Sign: Spend most of our MLE on Kelenna Azubukie (2.75 mil/year) and Kwame (2.5 mil/year) and veteran’s minimum on DJ Mbenga

    Line Up:
    D-fish/farmar/Yue
    Kobe/Wally
    Artest/Walton/
    Gasol/Hickson/Kwame
    Bynum/Kwame/DJ Mbenga

  • Shaq786

    i got the perfect trade where we can get young talent, get 2 big expiring contracts, and dump v.lad’s contract

    3-way trade (LAL/SAC/CLE):

    lakers trade: Odom, v.lad, Mihm, coby karl, rights to Joe Crawford, and trevor ariza
    Lakers recieve: Wally, Artest, and J.J. Hickson

    Sac trades: Artest and a ‘09 second round pick
    Sac Recieves: Joe Smith and Trevor Ariza

    Clevland trades: Wally, Joe Smith, J.J. Hickson
    Clevland Recieves: Lamar Odom, Mihm, rights to Joe Crawford, a ‘09 second round pick (from SAC) and Vlad.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=788~831~25~2426~549~617~1016&teams=23~13~13~23~5~5~5&te=&cash=

    Sign: Spend most of our MLE on Kelenna Azubukie (2.75 mil/year) and Kwame (2.5 mil/year) and veteran’s minimum on DJ Mbenga

    Line Up:
    D-fish/farmar/Yue
    Kobe/Wally/K.A
    Artest/Wally/Walton
    Gasol/Hickson/Kwame
    Bynum/Kwame/DJ Mbenga

  • pjt

    If we can trade Odom and Farmar, to Sac or a third team…and we get Artest and a 2nd player(maybe a “D” phsical 6’5-6’6 point guard, to come off the bench), and (Sun, is he going to be in this camp???)…make the trade…

    Is there any word from Sac, how long they are going to leave Artest hanging this summer???????

    Kobe & Artest & Gasol & Bynum & Fisher…