Coach says habits established during the team’s so-so start are unlikely to be broken. Has the Zen Master given up on the Lakers already? Sound-off in the comments and tell us what you think!

L.A. Times: The Lakers probably were not going to win 50 games, but Coach Phil Jackson made it semi-official Saturday.

Following practice, Jackson said he had told his players after a 127-99 win over Denver on Nov. 29 that they were not good enough to win 50 games.

The Lakers will play their 20th game of the season tonight, against Golden State at Staples Center.

As Jackson sees it, that is five games past the fail-safe point for establishing a team’s direction for the season. It is the first 15 games, he said, that set the tone for the season, when teams get into habits that will last for the rest of the season.

That win over the Nuggets came in the Lakers’ 15th game and left them with a 9-6 record. They are now 11-8, and have yet to impress anyone, apparently. Certainly not their coach.

“We haven’t really started to do some of the other structural things we want to do with the team,” said Jackson, who agreed to a two-year contract extension on the day of the Denver game. “We need to open a run again and find a way to win two or three games in a row and get some momentum.”

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  • DoDoBallz

    For one Go Floyd when it comes to trash talking you do back it up and that deserves nothing but respect go retire and live as the greatest.

    Lakers!!!
    Phil being Phil I think that this is a good thing believe it or not.
    Kobe has praised Bynum many times this season and Bynum has done pretty well though he doesn’t get the ball like he should.It means that Bynum has played well but not asserting himself in the post and not becoming another voice on the floor which Shaq was a voice.Phil knows what he has he just wants him to take it instead of it getting it handed to him.

    Demand the damn ball,Get tough,want it so bad that your team wants to look for you more instead of on occasions.SCREAM IM OPEN PASS THE BALL IM RIGHT HERE!!!!.Let them know you want the ball and the game in your hand instead of being satisfied with light double doubles.

    And then if they don’t get to you tell them I was open several times until you are respected on the court because once they see that hes that guy that wants the game and not just happy with a good block here or a nice dunk there force yourself to be more than what you are known for now and thats just an improvement.But when you look to be a star or one of the teams main focuses then thats when Bynum can truly be what everybody sees.I love the kid,But you either own the ball or grow some balls.Peace

  • http://lakers.com k0be da 1 andonly

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!LETS PROVE HIM WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Alvin

    Jedi mind tricks?

    I don’t think we could either but maybe he’s just playing games.

  • keep24

    HE’S NOT PLAYING GAMES AND THIS NO REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY.

    THE ONLY WAY THIS TEAM CAN GET BETTER IS BY HAVING PJ COACH THEM FULL TIME. HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS ROTATION AND RIDE AB AND LO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

  • DeepFrost

    hell no guys… Jedi mind tricks 4 sure lol

  • dave p

    Phil’s right. The only way we become more than a 500 team is to get rid of some of our mediocre players i.e. O-dumb, Kwame, Sasha, and Luke. Package some of these guys and try to get some consistent support for Kobe. Getting rid of Cook was a good first step. Now let’s make some more progress.

  • http://www.myspace.com/halloween_oc Viva Vegas

    Yeah. I believe this to be reverse-reverse pyschology. They can do it if they try and believe in each other all the time, not half the time. Famar is doing great and Bynum is coming along just fine. But when this machine of ours is fine tuned and they dont have to think and just do, then yes this will become an elite team for sure.

    -Viva

    selling Laker tickets and New Years tickets for the Atrium.

  • PHANTOM

    Phil always tells it like it is. we’ll win 42-45 games just like last year and get the 7th seed just like last year and be knocked out in the first round just like last year unless we get kb some help. i’m not knocking the lakers its just we are real young and we have some bad contracts (kwame, odom, vlad).

  • magicbalala245

    no the zen master has not giving up yet!!!!! this is one of his trick to make a mediocre team INTO A CONTENDING TEAM MARK MY WORD IT STARTS TONGIHT…………………………………………………….

  • gugy

    I don’t think PJ is giving up. I think he is been realistic.
    Sure, maybe he my be playing mind games, but for sure this team will not be much more than the last two seeds on the West.
    Hopefully before the deadline we can trade for someone that might put the Lakers on a better seed.

  • LakersFirst (Change) (Close)

    This is Phil challenging the Lakers to prove him wrong. If Phil didn’t think this team was worth a damn, why did he resign for another 2 years.

  • gugy

    I think the main reason for PJ to resign is that Kobe will stay and the Lakres have a deal coming up that will make them a better team, or that Jerry Buss is going to make this a contender next season.
    If not of that happen, is not a bad deal to make 12 million a year. I’ll take that job! :-)

  • Tim-4-Show

    As Seinfeld would say, “the wheels are in motion. things are happening”

    One more week until Dec 15th.

  • http://www.myspace.com/dbricks DBricks

    Maybe a low blow to the front office? Saying we need one more piece in here to be a 50 win team…basically saying a real contender. 50 wins has always been the mark to get to, if you wanna prove your legit!

  • LA Forever

    LakersFirst (Change) (Close)
    Dec 9th, 2007 at 11:10 am
    This is Phil challenging the Lakers to prove him wrong. If Phil didn’t think this team was worth a damn, why did he resign for another 2 years.

    Yea your right, why whould he sign a 2 year contract if he thought this is a not worth tying. Im sure this laker team will get 50 wins. Yea its gonna start today agains Warriors

  • LA Forever

    LakersFirst (Change) (Close)
    Dec 9th, 2007 at 11:10 am
    This is Phil challenging the Lakers to prove him wrong. If Phil didn’t think this team was worth a damn, why did he resign for another 2 years.

    Yea your right, why whould he sign a 2 year contract if he thought this is a not worth tying. Im sure this laker team will get 50 wins. Yea its gonna start today agains Warriors

  • MILO

    We need Kidd, thats what Phil is saying…

  • Flush Odumb

    In order to improve we need to start unloading our inconsistent players and get people that have heart and play with passion. “Cookie” was a good start. Hopefully Odumb, Kwame, Sasha, and Walton are next on the hit parade.

  • ab4sure

    PJ is just being PJ. This is what Phil does. The lakers need to just keep doing what there doing. If a good trade can be made without sacrificing our talented youth then we make it. I think in a way PJ does this to cover his a$$. He wants others to share in the blame if things go bad and to his credit I think he wants others to share in the success.

  • lakerfan81

    LakersFirst (Change) (Close)
    Dec 9th, 2007 at 11:10 am
    This is Phil challenging the Lakers to prove him wrong. If Phil didn’t think this team was worth a damn, why did he resign for another 2 years.

    I can think of 24 million reasons why he would sign a 2 year extension.

  • Rpoc

    [Comment ID #19040 Will Be Quoted Here]
    Damn fraking right. He gets to bang Buss’ daughter too.

    Why did Buss sign Phil? Keeping the ticket holders in their seats by giving them a sense of stability.

    It’s as simple as that. If the Lakers manage to have a few things swing their way during this period, then that’s gravy. The above reasons are the primary ones.

  • gspence001

    he is clearly trying to give the team motivation and more importantly give kobe motivation

  • LakersFirst (Change) (Close)

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    I don’t think Phil would resign a contract with a team that is going to negatively affect his coaching record. Phil could have easily not resigned with the Lakers and definitely get a job elsewhere (i.e. NY Knicks). Phil wants to win, everyone knows that. I don’t think money was his primary motivation here.

  • 187 ON BOSTON

    I fuc king hate the celtics

  • DCLAKER

    I still say one more piece to the puzzle will put the Lakers over 50.

  • 24allup inya

    I too think that this is Phil’s way off motivating the team, basicly calling them out like Kobe did…

  • 24allup inya