Nation Discussion: Ray Allen – can he back up his mouth?

This is an interesting debate. A few years back, Ray Allen opened up his mouth and spoke about Kobe Bryant and his “feud” with Shaq. Allen had some harsh comments and over the years, the two have been known to “not” like eachother.

Here is what Ray had to say…

“He’s going to be very selfish,” Allen said of Bryant. “And he feels like he needs to show this league and the people in this country that he is better without Shaq. He can win championships without Shaq. So offensively, he’s going to jump out and say, ‘I can average 30 points. I can still carry the load on this team.’

Now, perhaps more than ever, Ray will regret his words.. or will he? Bottom line is, it’s ironic that Kobe’s first shot at a title will have to go through Allen and the Celtics! Here is a glimpse of what Kobe does – unlike Allen – Kobe does his talking on the court, not off.

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  • dub824

    ray cant back it up.. kobe has always destroyed him

  • Sako

    He ended up being right, but someone shouldn’t go out and run their mouth like that. It’s like me throwing myself into a Blood vs. Crip fight.

  • http://ld2k.com LD2k

    I wonder what he’s saying now…

    ?

  • ab17

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    he aint saying nothing thats wat it is
    he’s gonna remain ringless haha

  • 123KID

    let him run his mouth and see what happens!

  • laker-nate

    best kobe block ever…stare that piece of sh!t down kobe!!

  • willow

    Let him run his mouth! Punk b!tches like that get busted up in the mouth. He’ll just be putting more fuel into an already massive wildfire burning inside the Black Mamba. I would’ve busted his mouth when he started talkin sh!t like that but that block would be good enough.

  • lakers4life

    wat u mean kobes first shot at a title? he has 3 if u dont remember

  • lakers4life

    and like how kobe doesnt care about the rebound just stares him down..LOVE IT!!
    08 CHAMPS!

  • lakerschamps08

    maybe thats the only way boston is gonna win is if kobe doesnt shoot a lot and just passes a lot cuz if kobe gets going who gonna stop him?????? but watever allen needs to shut up

  • gugy

    F U C K Ray Allen

  • willow

    Why did they ever fire Paul Sunderland? Joel Myers is a former San Antonio Spurs play by play announcer before he got the most prestigious job in the world. Sundy was a SoCal guy if I’m not mistaken and I thought he did a great job calling the game. He was a Laker fan.

    http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/broadcast_team_030612.html

  • KOBEISKING

    fulk allen he doesnt know shit i hope kobe personally embarrases the hore so that he doesnt say shit again. Fuck this asshole. One of my least favorite players ever

  • http://losangelessource.com/lakers/ Lane

    talk is cheap

    Lane
    http://LosAngelesSource.com

  • Realistic Laker Fan

    Ray Allen is typically known throughout the league as one of the classiest players out there. His comments, though rude, ended up having a lot of truth to them (unfortunately). Kobe definetly came out with a chip on his shoulder after Shaq was traded, and Allen was just calling him out on it. Remember guys, Kobe has never been the most popular guy in the league. As talented as he is, a lot of players especially in the past have had beef with Kobe.

    It’s cool though, because now Kobe has the opportunity to shut down Ray Allen and prove why he has evolved into the player that no one, including Allen, predicted he would become: a capable and trusting leader. Kobe’s taken it to a level that Allen will never reach, and it’s up to him to prove it on the centerstage this Thursday.

  • Young

    Also, if I remember correctly, Ray also predicted that Kobe would ask out after reevaluating his situation.

    Although his words did have a lot of truth to them, I’m not sure if it was such a good idea. For one, it doesn’t seem warranted. Secondly, I think Kobe’s the last person I would want to piss off. What, did Ray forget that they both play the same position?

    Another thing unrelated to the feud. I sort of predict Ray playing well. Not that I want him to, but Kobe does have a tendency to cheat off his man to help. A lot. We saw it with Brewer and Bowen. And though I’ve seen Kleenex’s more durable than Ray’s ankles, I still wouldn’t like to give him open looks. I can’t wait for Sasha to give Ray fits. Or Kobe to demolish him.

  • D Lo

    It wasn’t his place to say,,, but he was absolutely right!!

  • rrrr

    ray allen is WAY bette than garbage KOBE. F U C K kobe he sucks all u laker fans ray allen is right.kobe cant get a ring with out shaq. kobe will never get a ring by himself r u crazy.

    BOSTON 2008 CHAMPSSSS. B!TCHS

  • kb_pg

    Celts suck my purple n gold ballz!

  • Sako

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    lol… you’re funny

  • http://mrsfox411@aol.com FOXXY

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  • vintij

    Kobe wont even see or hear about this, he will still come out and shut allen down worse than he has ever been shut down. Thats if he keeps his mind on allen, kobe is the type to help out on D while leaving 3 point shooters open.

  • http://mrsfox411@aol.com FOXXY

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    YOUR IN THE WRONG HOUSE PUNK…THIS THE LAKERS HOUSE…YOU AND RAY ALLEN CAN KISS ALL OUR A$$ES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Fantastic5LAL

    Ray Allen aka Cancer survivor wont do anything in series

  • varsityoptimism

    truth is, ray allen is just a mid-level star. basketball won’t remember him as a great competitor with unmatched skills. he is a shooter with questionable defense and no true career accomplishments. plus he is a giant douche. i hope sash kicks his balls.

  • bryanmn1

    Who cares…. It was a comment made three years ago. Why scrutinize what Ray Allen said three years ago?

  • xtro

    Jesus Shuttlesworth aint’ got game against the Black Mamba.

  • MikeMartin

    It’s to bad LD2k decided to leave out the fact that Ray Allen in the same statement correctly predicted that Kobe would bitch for a trade…

    http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-25-13/Ray-Allen-Predicted-Kobe-Bryant-s-Trade-Demand-in-2004.html

  • Ray20Allen

    Got yaw ass busted! Its Ray Allen or nothing fuck a kobe. Yaw aint got shit wit out Shaq and when yaw lost yaw could tell him how his ass taste! Ray Allen aint much on Dfense I agree but he locked Kobe ass down and broke and tied some records for the L.A fans at home HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! and you weak fucks cheered for him when they announced that he did it i bet lol.

    Bottom line Ray allen is the best and I aint even from Boston. Im CHicago and I know Kobe aint fuckin wit Ray wit or without Shaq. The best player in the league is not stopping the best shooter.

  • THEGODFATHER24

    WELL I USE 2 WORK VALET PARKING DOWN SUNSET AT A BAR CALLD ONE SUNSET AND I SAW ALLEN THER ONES THIS PUNK WONT EVEN SHAKE YOUR HAND HES FULL OF HIM SELF. ALLEN YOUR NOBODY YOU NEED A ALL STAR TEAM 2 WIN THATS SAD.
    AND KOBE DONT NEED FAT ASS SHAQ.
    IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT SHAQ WON THE LAST CHAMPIONSIP BECAUSE OF THE ALL STAR TEAM MIAMI HADE.

    SAY SOMETHING NOW PUNK!
    PS..YOU DAUTHER SUX AT BASKETBALL 2. PZ

  • MANNY

    RAY ALLEN IS GREAT, KOBE IS GREAT, THEY BOTH HAVE DIFFERENT STYLES, PERSONALITY, AND GAMESMANSHIP…….STILL RAY ALLEN IS OVERALL BETTER SO STOP HATING ON THE GUY