L.A. Times: LeBron James and Kobe Bryant went back and forth throughout an intense fourth quarter.

James and his Cleveland Cavaliers won out in the end, even surviving a few raindrops at Staples Center.

James scored 14 of his 41 points in the final period, and the Cavaliers beat the short-handed Lakers, 98-95, this afternoon for their 12th win in 15 games.

Bryant scored nine of his 33 points in the fourth quarter, and also had 12 rebounds and six assists, but it wouldn’t be enough to keep the Lakers from losing their third straight to match their longest losing streak of the season.

Zydrunas Ilgauskas had 16 points and 11 rebounds before fouling out with 6:14 to play, and Larry Hughes also scored 16 points for the Cavaliers (24-19), who have beaten the Lakers in their last five meetings.

Lamar Odom had 14 points and nine rebounds for the Lakers (27-15), who have a 2-4 record since center Andrew Bynum injured his left knee. It was their fourth game without Trevor Ariza, who broke his right foot. Neither player is expected to return before the middle of March.

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  • sako

    is anyone else sick of luke?

  • shakobe

    luke is not the problem here, its lamar and butter fingers kwame, expect a trade soon thats all i can say.

  • lalball81

    No, I don’t expect any trades soon. The team is playing fine.

  • kyler_hay

    we r still in shape

  • T-Dub

    This is gonna be a tough 6-8weeks. This is bullsh*t. Even IF we make the playoffs, we will be a low seed looking at a tough 1st rnd. Lets pray we get the Suns…IF we get in.

  • Young

    i thought lamar had a decent game, as did luke. i also thought lamar got shoved on that layup towards the end. but with that, luke passing up that ball was a complete bonehead mistake, esp after the announcers were praising his bball iq. i don’t think its a mistake luke will make again, but he definitely got flustered when he got rid of the ball without thinking about the clock.

    i don’t know why sasha was out there with the quick release he has. it was kobe lamar luke fish and one more (someone help me out). lamar and luke had no business being out there when we needed a three.

    this loss was esp painful to swallow among these last three. though i think we should have never been chasing SA and Dallas that much in the second half, we were in control of this game. this is pretty close to the last Cleveland game, which frustrates me.

    i thought about it, and i feel like it wouldn’t be a far stretch to say that we could fall out of the playoffs without bynum and ariza. one solution to alleviate this dilemma would be to make a trade, obviously. brown and his contract seems like a good first step, but i have a feeling not too many people want him. i don’t think its necessarily a bad thing to not trade him. as of now, we need a big guy, and letting his contract go off the books at the end of the season is not a bad idea, neither. were already straddling the luxury cap as it is.

  • http://thelakersnation.com kb24 4life

    kwame played good, lamar played good, luke was good until the last play , he was scared , doesnt know how to play under preasure, but maybe with kidd wanting out,a trade invloving kwame, critt and vlade may work for the nets, i dont want jo because he is not coming, nor elton brand, but kidd is a viable option…, plus dont give up jordan, give up critt..

  • daboss1848

    - no comments on PJs play call with 9 seconds left?

    – no comment on PJ having to sit KB to teach him a lesson in teamwork after KB went on a personal quest to show that LBJ cannot guard him – which took a 9 point lead down to a 1 point trail?

    – no comment on the fact that KB dribbled out the clock and gave it to a well defended Luke at the last second?

    it also appears that LO is not the only one to miss layups…but on the theKBnation that goes without notice or with a built-in excuse, I guess.

    quite simply Luke’s fault and thats it – a little shortsighted . . .

    The last play is magnified but thats not where the game is won/lost.

  • STEVE

    I hope Kobe and the Lakers get buried on this 9 gamer!

  • LakersOnFire

    its frustrating to watch these games. however, luke and lamar had decent games stats-wise.

    kobe always gets especially competitive playing against lebron and its to the detriment of the team. can’t he see past the one on one dueling and just go for the W? thats not a quality people want to see in an mvp candidate.

  • http://www.mr47.com mr47

    Luke is still off and should have taken that last shot. Tell me this isn’t the play that came out of the timeout? Kobe to Luke Walton? How about putting our shooters (even Radman!) on the floor instead of these guys!? We should have had a lineup of farmar, fish, kobe, lamar (to inbound) and radman. That way just in case the play goes to hell, all of them know to SHOOT THE BALL!

    LBJ was too much for Luke and LO. He blew by Kobe a few times, but LO and Luke just couldn’t do anything against him. It’s hard to lay blame on anyone in this game, a few players didn’t play well.

    My good side: Farmar, Kobe, Fisher, Turiaf
    My bad side: Luke, LO, Kwame

    The rest I’m neutral with. The positive players are there for their production and effort. The negative players are on my bad side because they need to step it up period.

  • mfoznot

    I think that this team is just off all together. I think with the offense we got, it worked well with Bynum. Without that big center down low, on both ends of the court, we are a team without an identity. And I think everyone is trying to figure it out. And failing. Including Kobe, Lamar, Farmar, and most of all Phil. At this point I just hope we get healthy before the playoffs, get in the playoffs, and play at the level we were playing at before Ariza and Bynum were injured.

  • T-Dub

    I can’t believe you Kobe haters trying to put this loss on Kobe. The first half he didn’t even shoot trying to get the bums going…39pts in the first half. He saw that once again, he was alone and had to do it himself just so we could have a chance to win. He shot a good percentage, 33pts/12rebs. What the hell do you want from this guy??? If he doesn’t shoot , he’s pouting. If he shoots too much, he selfish and doesn’t know how to be a leader. THE TEAM IS THE PROBLEM, NOT KOBE. Remember, he won rings before these bums were here. And don’t even try to use the Shaq argument…The Rings were won in the western conference finals where Shaq was neutralized by the Blazers, Spurs and Kings and Kobe DOMINATED! The TRUE MVP…The FINALS were easy!!!!!!

  • magicbalala245

    freakin cav’s got lucky again

  • e

    yeah, blaming kobe for this one is ridiculous…i dont know if you guys realized this or not, lamar and luke come alive for a few seconds and then disappear, kwame is kwame, he can never be looked at as a reliable center, and i dont know about you guys but lebron should have been doubled, no matter how much of an iso lebron wants, hes a fag, u dont let him have it his way..he should have been doubled, and it should have been the job of whoever was guarding larry hughes to slide over and do so

  • Frank

    We had this game and did not execute at the end…..

    NO BIG DEAL….

    I think we have played well despite the last three losses…

    At SA and DAL we lost the 3rd Q which cost us the game but we were in the game at the end!We made the adjustment and dominated the 3rd Q today but petty mistakes cost us the game at the end.

    The last three teams we faced were either fully healthy or playing well, we are still adjusting to Bynum’s absence.

    We are gonna whoop NY and go 9-0 on the road trip!

  • Lakers

    HEY GUYS COMMON ITS NOT ANYONES FAULT. THE TEAM IS PLAYING WELL BUT THEY JUST DONT HAVE ANY LUCK. HONESTLY THEYVE PLAYED GOOD BALL. THEY JUST NEED TO ADJUST ON DEFENSE AND THEY’LL BE FINE. MARK MY WORDS LAKERS WILL DO VERY WELL ON THIS ROAD TRIP

  • E-ROC

    It’ll never be a win-win situation with Kobe. There is never a grey area with him. It’s always black and white.

    Everybody was being aggressive in the first half. Then in the second half, everybody began to watch Kobe be aggressive. They gave him the ball on the iso and stood there watching him. Nobody was cutting to the basket or anything. Kobe wants you to take the ball of out his hands. There was one sequence where Odom had Zydrunas guarding him. Kobe asks for the ball and he gives it him. There is no way in the world that should ever happen. Odom should attacked Zydrunas off the dribble. Instead, he gives it up to Kobe. It’s pathetic. $13 million for this???

    The Lakers need another creative scorer. ASAP! Either via trade or start developing Crittenton at the two guard. Nobody not named Kobe can create their own scoring.

    The Lakers defense was bad, too. No timely rotations. Kwame has the best post defense in the NBA, so they say. Guys leaving Damon Jones open for three. Of all people, you leave open Damon Jones??! He is in the game because he can shoot the three. DuH! Ditto for Boobie.

    Just a terrible ending to the game.

  • LakersFirst (Change) (Close)

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    How the f*ck do you figure the King, Blazers, and Spurs neutralized Shaq??? While in L..A, Shaq averaged 29 points and 13 boards a game during the playoffs, so how do you say the Kings, Blazers and Spurs neutralized Shaq? LOL LOL LOL. Shaq made the game easier for Kobe Bryant just the way he made it easier for Dwayne Wade.

    The reason why the Lakers are struggling now because of the injury mainly to Bynum. Like Shaq, a good center opens the court for everyone!!! This includes the “bums” as you like to call them (big Laker fan you are). When Bynum was playing, the team was so WELL BALANCED (but you obviously didn’t see that). When Bynum was there everyone knew their role and responsibility. When the Lakers lost Bynum they lost their post up game, their high percentage shots, rebounding (both offensive and defense), blocked shots and shot altering. Losing a center disrupts a team more than losing a power forward, a small forward, a shooting guard, or a point guard. Bynum’s injury was such bad luck.

    How come you don’t see that Bynum balanced out the team and when he’s playing (and other players are healthy), that this Laker team is a good team?

  • jack

    could the knicks game come at any better time. let score all the points against this team guys. I am freaked our right now.

  • Kobe08-09

    we will go 9-0 in the road trip mark MY WORDS

  • Roscoe

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    LOL @ the notion that Shaq was “neutralized.” Probably the worst word choice ever.

  • ab4sure

    Whose fault is it??? Well I would have to say it is a team loss so blame could be spread to everyone. Lebron outdueled kobe yesterday. He got the best of him in the 4th quarter. Very few people in the league can create there own shot so it requires that the offense is run. Shaq neutralized??? Some here never saw Shaq play.

    Lets not panic lakernation. Put away your suicide plans. The season is just half way over.

  • T-Dub

    You guys are smokin crack…In those 3 yrs we won rings, everyone knows that they were won in the west. AND, eveyone also knows that Kobe took over games when Shaq was doubled by those teams…he had numerous big games in the western conference finals to get us over the hump. Shaq got 3 finals MVPs because those east teans didn’t have anybody to match up with him. BUT, Kobe was the REAL MVP throuhg the WCF…

  • T-Dub

    Lakersfirst…with Bynum, yes we’re a good team. However, I still dont believe we’re a championship team. Maybe 4th best in the west. Well, thats not good enough. Until we replace Luke or Lamar or both, and get a player who can create his own offense consistantly, we won’t beat those TOP teams.

  • foxxy

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  • foxxy

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    WHAT????? WHO ARE YOU ANYWAY????? WHY ARE YOU POSTED ON LAKERS NATION IF YOU FEEL THAT WAY…GET OFF OUR LAKERS SITE!!!!! ONLY TRUE FAN POST HERE!!!!

  • foxxy

    [Comment ID #23905 Will Be Quoted Here]YES AB…IM WITH YOU…WE CANT PANIC…I REALLY BELIEVE WE’RE GONNA BE ALRIGHT!!! BUT ITS STILL PAINFUL TO WATCH US LOSE,ESPECIALLY WHEN WE LOOK SO GOOD IN THE FIRST HALF….I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SOME AJUSTMENTS IN THE ROTATION!!! WE JUST GOTTA STAY AFLOAT UNTIL BYMUN AND ARIZA GET BACK…WE REALLY NEED LAMAR TO STEP UP….AND STOP WITH THE DISAPPEARING ACT!!!1

  • LakersFirst

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    T-Dub: I hate to break it to you, but other people, not just have I have disagreed with your notion that Shaq was “neutralized”. So EVERYONE knows that Shaq was never “neutrualized”

    In the playoffs, Shaq was still the focal point of the Laker offense (that’s why he averaged 29 points a game in the playoffs as a Laker) and not just in the NBA Finals but throughout the playoffs (this includes going through the West). Yes, Kobe contributed but the fact that the opposition was so focused (and rightfully so) on Shaq made the game easier for Kobe and the other Lakers. At the end of the day, even through the WCF, the Lakers were still centered around Shaq and Kobe would not have gone off the way he did without Shaq.

  • LakersFirst

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    T-Dub: Your entitled to your opinion, but I think you’re wrong. I think with Bynum in the lineup and the other players healthy, the Lakers can win the West (I obviously share this opinion with other NBA analysts). The Lakers with Bynum marched their way to the top of the difficult Western Conference (nobody expected that!!!).

    I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but Kobe even said it, when he didn’t even have to. Kobe saw what the Lakers were with Bynum but for some reason you don’t.

    Now I know you’re getting your jollies because you see the Lakers struggling and you THINK you’re right, however let’s put an asterisk by that because of Bynum’s injury (and injuries to Radman, Ariza, etc, etc). If Bynum did not have this injury, I really think the Lakers would be 30-12 or even 29-13. I think Bynum creates so many mismatches (because of how big he is) that it makes other teams have to change the way the defend the Lakers which opens up the game for ALL Laker players (Odom and Luke included).

    You’re screaming TRADE TRADE TRADE but after an injury that is a trade done out of a reaction and speaks of desperation. That’s not a way to build a team.

  • T-Dub

    Lakersfirst…I was screaming trade before the injury while we were on that 17-3 run and YOU know that. So, when its all said and done, if we even go 4-5 on this 9-game trip, which I don’t think we will. It just may be 2-7 or worse. We will be in the 10th seed still missing Bynum for another month. Then we really start playing all the west teams. By the time we get Bynum back, it very well could be too late for this season anyway. We’ll have a month to go and about 17 games left to make our the losses. AND, what makes you think Bynum will come back at that same level of play. It just make take him 17 games to get back in basketball shape. Are you willing not to take a chance, not make a move and go into the summer as a lottery team. Ok, we’ll get a good draft pick, but what makes you think these often injured players won’t go down again next season?

  • DCLAKER

    I got one question for Bill(I just got slammed on by DR.J,WOW)Walton,WHAT IN THE HELL DID YOU OR UCLA TEACH LUKE ABOUT BASKETBALL,JUST AS I FIGURED,NOT A DAMN THING.Take the shot Luuuuuuke! A friend at work just hit me with something,WHERE ARE THE CHARLES OAKLEY’S AT IN THE NBA NOWADAYS? Nobody has any heart anymore(especially LO,Fluke and Kwame).A Power Formward is called that for a reason,POWER. Somebody is getting TRADED SOON and if I’m LO or Kwame(Luke might be hard get rid because of his contract but if THE FO CAN……SEE YA’).Dalembert(it might be a stretch),JO(I don’t care how hurt he is,Get’em)Wilcox(he wants to win,HE’S FROM MD U.,STRAIGHT WARRIOR)GERALD GREEN(YOUNG ,ATHLETIC AND HUNGRY)and the list goes on…….JAMINSON(THEY TOOK CARON WE TAKE ANTIONE).

  • jack

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    Are you T-Dub or T-Dumb??? We are a championship team definitely with Bynum, and we have a good chance of winning the west.

    The whole month schedule without AB is soft, except for a phoenix game. There is one game against Detroit and look at the Feb schedule:

    @ Toronto 4:00pm
    Sun 03 @ Washington 9:00am
    Tue 05 @ New Jersey 4:30pm
    Wed 06 @ Atlanta 4:00pm
    Fri 08 @ Orlando 4:00pm
    Sun 10 @ Miami 12:30pm
    Mon 11 @ Charlotte 4:00pm
    Wed 13 @ Minnesota 5:00pm
    Tue 19 vs Atlanta 7:30pm
    Wed 20 @ Phoenix 6:00pm
    Sat 23 @ LA Clippers 7:30pm
    Sun 24 @ Seattle 6:00pm
    Tue 26 vs Portland 7:30pm
    Thu 28 vs Miami 7:30pm
    Fri 29 @ Portland 7:30pm

    If I got a chance to choose a schedule for a month going without Bynum, this is what I would have come up with anyway. We are going to make some noise in this month guys. If the celtics can beat these teams and have a great record, so fcking can we. And when we start winning gamessssss in a row, it will be a great welcome for big baby.

    Also, to answer your another question, when Bynum comes back, he will pick up where he left at. His injury is already fixed, the long weeks is to heel. After he feels good to run around, he will get a chance to shoot the ball a lot, before finally being cleared by the docs to play. allright dumb?

  • DCLAKER

    DO NOT TAKE THIS ROAD TRIP LIGHTLY,IDON’T CARE IF THEY’RE PLAYING THE TIMBERWOLVES,PLAY TO WIN!

  • T-Dub

    Jack…first of all, F*CK YOU! Why can’t people state their opinion on this site without attacked by I’m almost certain some PUNKA$$ M*THERF*CKERS. Now, you have just spent all this time typing out a shedule that I have in front of me anyway. We’re will be on the road, and other than Kobe and Bynum, most of the teams we play have better talent. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but other than Kobe and Bynum, and don’t count soft a$$ Lamar and sorry a$$ Kwame, we don’t have any high draft picks on this team! Late 1st rounders and 2nd rounders are what we have, period! You people are more optimistic than realistic. If the Lakers can do well on this trip and for the next 2 months, then great. But I won’t be one you nitwits making all kinds of excuses at the end of the year when we don’t make the playoffs. I’ll be saying “I TOLD YOU SO AND BRACE FOR ANOTHER LONG SUMMER!”.

  • MILO

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    Lamar had 3 fu-ck-en defensive 3 violations and you think he had a decent game this shows he’s not playing good defense you’re not doing much for the team leaving people wide open.In my opinion LO and Phil are responsible for this loss.Phil made a stupid decision taking Kobe out when it counts the most, im tired if his stupid old ass!Go ahead laker nation let me have it for going after Phil…

  • MILO

    I cant beleive that Kobe got prety much the same amounts of trips to the line that James did im shoked! this one we really cant blame on the officials…

  • MILO

    My head was killing me after this game but when Bynum comes back the good times will return.When Bynum gets back the Lakers theme song should be the one im going to paste but who ever is in charged of the Lakers venues is a lame and dont add no music during the game!!!

  • LakersFirst

    [Comment ID #23923 Will Be Quoted Here]

    With this statement you’ve basically communicated you’re in panic mode and want to try to make a trade that will save THIS season…and only THIS season. You’re willing to break up a team that was #1 in the West, and because of injuires are now slipping, to salvage this season? Yes you stated that you wanted to make trades earlier but if Bynum didn’t go down and the Lakers were still winning at the rate that they were, would you, or anyone else here, still be screaming TRADE, TRADE, TRADE???

    I’m all for trades if the TRADES MAKES THE OVERALL TEAM BETTER IN THE LONG RUN…now just a few months. Making moves out of panic/desperation is NOT GOOD!! All that will do is force you to make bad trades that will negatively hurt you in the long term, even though you THINK they are good in the short term .

    Short term planning is NEVER good. Businesses plan for the long run, they DO NOT PLAN for the short term. The same goes for building a team, you build a team that can compete in the long run. Fortunately for the Lakers, they have many young players that can stay and help the Lakers contend in the long run.

    With regards to the Lakers falling out of the playoffs and into the lottery, yes this very well could happen, mainly because of the injuries and because the West is so tight (remember, the west is so tough that if a team loses 2-3 games they are in the 7-8th seed). But at the same time the Lakers could fall out of the playoffs even if a trade is made and backfires (possibly leaving the Lakers in a worse situation).

    Obtaining the #1 lottery pick, as it bad as it sounds, may not be bad because that’s an asset to trade in the offseason that can get the Lakers another possible star (did you ever think of that). For example, would you take a season of getting a lottery pick and using that lottery pick as trade bait (and another Laker) to acquire a player like Chris Wilcox of Seattle (seattle may want draft picks) or Villanueva from Milwaukee (who I really like),etc, to have that player come to the Lakers and help them be a top team for the next 5, 6, or even 7 years???

    With regards to the injured players going down next season, I’m not suggesting that the Lakers stick with this same team in the offseason. Kwame Brown most likely will NOT be resigned, unless the Lakers still haven’t acquired another big man by September (the latest) and he signs for the vets minimum. I always stated that LO’s fate will be decided at the end of this season. He has a $14M contract next year that some team may value. What I have always stated though is that this team was a contender with Bynum in the line up and to break up a team just because of injuries may be too rash of a decision.

  • LakersFirst

    Of course many of the players on this team are late 1st rounders and 2nd rounders. This is because that’s what the Laker season has resulted in the Lakers getting (picking lower in the draft). The Lakers aren’t getting high 1st rounders because that’s what lottery teams get (are only lottery pick this decade is Bynum). The Lakers have only been a lottery team one time since the mid-90’s.

    As much as you hate Mitch he’s drafted some good talent with the picks that the Lakers had, but you won’t give the devil his due. He drafted Turiaf and Farmar, which you’ve admitted you were wrong about and have proven to be good players. Speaking of Farmar, take look at the 2006 draft and you will see that Farmar, picked at #26, is much better than many of the players picked above him. Mitch drafted Java (and the coaching staff is big on him) and some people are even big on Sasha who was picked 27th in the 2004 draft.

    It’s no secret that you don’t like the Laker squad. You’ve never liked the Lakers team, which is why I question you being a Laker fan. Even when they went 17-3, you never liked them. I’m a Laker fan even if they don’t make the playoffs and I won’t be there bashing the team if they don’t make the playoffs like you or many other supposed Laker fans.

    One think is for certain, and this you can’t deny, this season, and last season have asterisks next to them because of the injuries. No one know what this season would really be like because of the injuries and the same goes for last season. You can’t deny that fact!!! You seem so happy and hoping that the Lakers don’t make the playoffs so you’ll be able to gleefully yell “i told you so, i told you so”, making you look so smart, but intelligent fans like me know the truth, at the end of the day, the injuries, especially the length of the injuries, have clouded this season.

  • BEC

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    I agree with for the most part but its NOT Bynums OFFENSE, low post presence, that really made this team go. His inside game only helps a litte, with Kobe on the floor that opens things up for guys enough, scoring has never ever been a problem. ABC showed the stat yesterday for the year with Bynum we avg about 107ppg but post bynum we have averaged 106, not much loss. Its not his low post scoring that matters its his DEFENSE. With Bynum we give up 100ppg but without him we give up 108. That says it all right there. Our interior defense is terrible outside of Bynum, without Bynum we have NO shot blockers outside of Ronny. Thats how bad we are and were not so great on perimeter D, which is why Bynum is so important to this team, its his defense that matters not his offense.

  • LakersFirst

    [Comment ID #23936 Will Be Quoted Here]

    Of course many of the players on this team are late 1st rounders and 2nd rounders. This is because that’s what the Laker season has resulted in the Lakers getting (picking lower in the draft). The Lakers aren’t getting high 1st rounders because that’s what lottery teams get (are only lottery pick this decade is Bynum). The Lakers have only been a lottery team one time since the mid-90’s.

    As much as you hate Mitch he’s drafted some good talent with the picks that the Lakers had, but you won’t give the devil his due. He drafted Turiaf and Farmar, which you’ve admitted you were wrong about and have proven to be good players. Speaking of Farmar, take look at the 2006 draft and you will see that Farmar, picked at #26, is much better than many of the players picked above him. Mitch drafted Java (and the coaching staff is big on him) and some people are even big on Sasha who was picked 27th in the 2004 draft.

    It’s no secret that you don’t like the Laker squad. You’ve never liked the Lakers team, which is why I question you being a Laker fan. Even when they went 17-3, you never liked them. I’m a Laker fan even if they don’t make the playoffs and I won’t be there bashing the team if they don’t make the playoffs like you or many other supposed Laker fans.

    One think is for certain, and this you can’t deny, this season, and last season have asterisks next to them because of the injuries. No one know what this season would really be like because of the injuries and the same goes for last season. You can’t deny that fact!!! You seem so happy and hoping that the Lakers don’t make the playoffs so you’ll be able to gleefully yell “i told you so, i told you so”, making you look so smart, but intelligent fans like me know the truth, at the end of the day, the injuries, especially the length of the injuries, have clouded this season.

  • LakersFirst

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    BEC – You bring up a great point. Bynum defense is greatly missed. Big players are the shot blockers and shot alterers. I can’t tell you how many times I saw in the Phoenix game Barbosa drive in for an uncontested layup or Devin Harris in the Dallas game. With Bynum there, these players would not have easy layups.

  • jrich

    Lamar started 4-4 in the first 5 minutes. The rest of the game he went 1-9. What the hell is wrong with this azz clown? Arggghhhh!!!!!!!

  • T-Dub

    Lakersfirst…how many seasons do we have to go through putting asterisks by them??? I understand what you are saying, this is 2 in a row. Players that stay hurt: Mihm. Kwame, Walton, Odom, Vladrad. SH*T, this is half the squad…we can’t win with these guys! I would much rather be watching these Lakers play in May and June than saying “I told you so”…believe that. And I know making a trade now is not just to salvage this season, but make us better for seasons to come. But hey, the FO will do whatever THEY want so we’re all just wasting our breath! But I will say, we will be lucky just to make the playoffs.

  • DCLAKER

    I’M SCREAMING TRADE ALSO,it’s the only way to stay afloat with the rest of the west. I think we have to ’cause the lakers cannot afford to lose anymore games like this.Kwame can’t help contain Bynum when he’s hurt or just if he’s coming to the bench to rest. Fluke Walton is too busy spending ALL THAT FREE MONEY MITCH GAVE’EM(Mitch’s second worst F@%& UP,the 1st being…..well they have Kwame)and last but not least,LO. He just let Lebron go right at’em(it wasn’t all Kobe’s fault,THAT’S WHAT THE TRIANGLE DEFENSE IS FOR,TO HELP OUT YOUR TEAMMATE). LJ had a field day knowing all I have to do is get past Kobe and BANG! He knew KB wouldn’t have any help ’cause Bynum is out,so why not slash to the rim on nearly every drive,DID ANYONE NOTICE HOW LO AND KWAME JUST RAISED THEIR HANDS INSTEAD OF HACKING THE HELL OUT OF’EM,WHERE’S LAIMBEER OR OAKLEY WHEN YOU NEED’EM. GET JO(I’D RATHER HAVE A HURT JO THAN A HEALTHY KWAME ANYDAY),DALEMBERT(PHI.AIN’T GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS)OR IGLOUDAULA(I HOPE THAT’S HOW YOU SPELL HIS,PLUS HE TURNED DOWN A BIIIIIIIIIIIG CONTRACT FROM PHI.,DOESN’T WANT TO BE THERE)ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO WIN,WIN,WIN.Boston has three ALL-STARS ON THERE TEAM, Lakers have 1,THINK ABOU IT.

  • foxxy

    [Comment ID #23861 Will Be Quoted Here]YES…FO SHO!!!!!!!!

  • e

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    luke sucks!!!

  • T-Dub

    All I’m saying is this the 4th year since Shaq left, since we’ve played in late May. How many times are we gonna have to wait til next year?? I HAVE lost all faith in some of these players on this team, and from the sound of it so have many others. Its time to do something now and WIN NOW!!! And , it can get done without giving the only other surefire future all-star on this team…Bynum.

  • LakersFirst (Change) (Close)

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    You keep saying that “we can’t win with these guys”, but yet they proved last year before the injuries, that they could, and again this year before the injuries that they could (remember where they won 17 or 20 games). I Again, HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THIS SITE WERE SAYING NO TRADES, NO TRADES when they were winning and now that they’re struggling, the tune has changed to a desparate TRADE, TRADE, TRADE!! It’s been proven that this team could compete. I know, I know, you keep saying the Lakers never played anybody earlier this year, this and that, but at the end of the day, the Lakers were competing and winning and multiple people saw it (not just me). If they weren’t competing and winning then how did they get to the best record in the West, when they had one of the harder schedules at the beginning of the year? A team with players that can’t win does not grab the top record in the West, especially with the way the West is this year.

    Injuries are usually the result of bad luck (there’s nothing a team can really do to prevent injuries). You have to admit, teams do have to get a little bit lucky in order to go through an entire season without injuries. The Lakers unfortunatley have not been lucky in the injury department.

    I’m not saying that the Lakers aren’t or shouldn’t make moves, just DON’T MAKE MOVES OUT OF DESPERATION!! Yes, Kidd maybe available but for people to say, let’s trade Odom, Kwame and Farmar for him is ridiculous! Farmar is our top bench player, Odom and Kwame are bigs. We would only get back Kidd with NO BIGS!!! This does not make any sense at all.

    I also don’t think it makes sense to try and make trades in the middle of the season when only the teams that are struggling are looking to make trades whereas in the offseason, ALL teams are looking to make trades. People here don’t realize that when a trade is made, it will most likely hurt your ability to get free agents, unless you are receiving an expiring contract, but the Lakers are the ones with expiring contracts, so the Lakers won’t get expiring contracts in return. Teams that are struggling are the ones looking for expiring contracts, which means they have players that are tied up for 2 or 3 more years that they are looking to trade. If you bring in one of those players, they are going to tie up the salary cap, which hurts the ability to get free agents.

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    T-Dub: See that’s the difference between you and me, I have not lost faith because I’ve seen these guys play, I’ve seen destroy playoff teams like Phoenix, Utah, Denver, New Orleans, etc, and I know that this team is a contender.

    Yes, this the 4th year since the Shaq trade. No one said it was going to be easy when the Lakers traded away the most dominant center in the game in order to keep Kobe Bryant (and yes we all know that the Lakers HAD to trade Shaq). Because of this fact, the Lakers had to take back unequal value for Shaq. On top of that, the Lakers were over the salary cap and they didn’t have high draft picks and look where the team was 2 weeks, #1 in the West.

    I used to be like you and I used to hate on the FO, but then I started really understanding what they were doing and I saw how quickly they became a playoff team after basically rebuilding the team after Shaq’s departure. This is not a feat to be overlooked. I’m sorry but no team who trades away their most dominant player is going to rebuild as quickly as the Lakers did and make it back to the playoffs. NJ is going to be f’d for years after Jason Kidd as will Indiana when they trade JO.

    Remember, when Magic retired from the Lakers, it took them 9 years to get back to the NBA Finals (building a championship team does not happen overnight) and that’s when they had your boy Jerry West as the GM. For the Lakers to have done what they did earlier this season, #1 in the West, after only 3 full years after the Shaq trade and after only have 1 lottery pick (all other players were late 1st rounders and 2nd rounders) is pretty impressive. This is why I am the most frustrated about the injuries. I feel like the Lakers can’t catch a break, but I don’t think you make trades out of desperation.

  • somelakerfan1

    lets hopw we get into 8 or 7 place in the west beacuse we know we could beat phoniex and of course we owned hornets at their house so we automatically go to second round

  • e

    after tomorrow, IF we beat the knicks, we’ll be back in 5th, guys still have hope, we can make a comeback and soon

  • T-Dub

    Lakersfirst…I guess we’ll just have to see what happens. Not having a football team in LA, and not being a baseball fan, this Lakers team is all some of us have sports wise. I know last summer was excruciating, and I hate to go through another like that…listening to that A$$hole Steve Hartman all summer!

  • LakersFirst (Change) (Close)

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    I hear ya, I don’t like baseball but I do enjoy watching the SC Trojans football (I’m more of a college football fan than NFL), but don’t think the FO isn’t doing anything. Three times, four actually if you count the Garnett trade, the Lakers have been trying to better their team.

    Remember back in 2004, there were rumors that LO was offered to Sac for Bobby Jackson and Peja but that didn’t go through. That same year, the Lakers supposedly offered Divac, Caron Butler and Devean George to the Jazz for Boozer – this was when Boozer first got to Utah and was having issues with the Utah owner and didn’t play half of that first year, but Utah backed out.

    Also, don’t you remember this past summer the Lakers were involved in a three way deal that would’ve sent LO to New Jersey, Richard Jefferson to Charlotte and Gerald Wallace to the lakers but Jordan/Charlotte backed out. I remember that too because many Laker fans here were griping that they didn’t like that trade but now those same Laker fans are b*tching about LO. Remember, it takes more than one team to be involved in a trade, and no team in the NBA likes trading with the Lakers.