Luke Walton Action Face #3645I‘m sure Bill Walton is chilling somewhere in San Diego right now thinking to himself, “This is probably the greatest signing in all of Western civilization.”

ESPN is reporting that Luke Walton has reached a 6 year, 30Mill deal with the Lakers. Seems like we didn’t overpay for young Skywalker afterall. The question now remains, when will he get his daytime Emmy?

ESPN: Luke Walton reached agreement Sunday with the Los Angeles Lakers on a six-year, $30 million contract after general manager Mitch Kupchak placed a call one minute after midnight to express the team’s interest in retaining its best unrestricted free agent.

They called at the earliest possible moment, and we worked on it all day,” agent Lon Babby said. “They wanted him back, and Luke wanted to be there. We wanted to make every effort to get an agreement.before we went out and looked at any other teams.”

  • RC

    Luke “SOFTIE” Walton gets 6 years $30 million, kiss the laker pride away. This is ridiculous, we pass on Artest, we pass on B. Davis, we pass on Boozer, we pass on J. Kidd, but we sign this softie the first minute possible for 6 years $30 million.

    Walton is a bench player at best, a nice 8th or 9th man off the bench. The lakers are going no where. This sucks and if the Lakers think Luke is worth $30 million, we have 0% of landing KG and 0% of going to the playoffs next year.

    I hope Kobe finds another team and I will unload Laker support right after he is gone. The Lakers front office SUCKS, and getting Luke Walton the first day shows we are desperate.

    They take weeks and weeks for players like KG or JO, but they panic and sign a BENCH player (Walton) to $30 million. F*CK the lakers front office, they suck, and always will suck.

    Hey Jerry West, your job at Memphis is over, can someone in L.A. throw all of the lakers front office under 10 busses, they SUCK, and Luke Walton sucks. The lakers are going no where and will not get KG, this SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • cooleo24

    i think this has been one of lakers good decisions that will improve the lakers. A better than descent sign.

  • kobewillnotdie

    yeahhh luke is the man! i like how he plays. He’s smart on the court and he has great chemistry with kobe. He just needs to want to win more that’s all.

  • RC

    Luke “SOFTIE” Walton gets 6 years $30 million, kiss the laker pride away. This is ridiculous, we pass on Artest, we pass on B. Davis, we pass on Boozer, we pass on J. Kidd, but we sign this softie the first minute possible for 6 years $30 million.

    Walton is a bench player at best, a nice 8th or 9th man off the bench. The lakers are going no where. This sucks and if the Lakers think Luke is worth $30 million, we have 0% of landing KG and 0% of going to the playoffs next year.

    I hope Kobe finds another team and I will unload Laker support right after he is gone. The Lakers front office SUCKS, and getting Luke Walton the first day shows we are desperate.

    They take weeks and weeks for players like KG or JO, but they panic and sign a BENCH player (Walton) to $30 million. F*CK the lakers front office, they suck, and always will suck.

    Hey Jerry West, your job at Memphis is over, can someone in L.A. throw all of the lakers front office under 10 busses, they SUCK, and Luke Walton sucks. The lakers are going no where and will not get KG, this SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • kb24

    [quote comment="4429"]Luke “SOFTIE” Walton gets 6 years $30 million, kiss the laker pride away. This is ridiculous, we pass on Artest, we pass on B. Davis, we pass on Boozer, we pass on J. Kidd, but we sign this softie the first minute possible for 6 years $30 million.

    Walton is a bench player at best, a nice 8th or 9th man off the bench. The lakers are going no where. This sucks and if the Lakers think Luke is worth $30 million, we have 0% of landing KG and 0% of going to the playoffs next year.

    I hope Kobe finds another team and I will unload Laker support right after he is gone. The Lakers front office SUCKS, and getting Luke Walton the first day shows we are desperate.

    They take weeks and weeks for players like KG or JO, but they panic and sign a BENCH player (Walton) to $30 million. F*CK the lakers front office, they suck, and always will suck.

    Hey Jerry West, your job at Memphis is over, can someone in L.A. throw all of the lakers front office under 10 busses, they SUCK, and Luke Walton sucks. The lakers are going no where and will not get KG, this SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

    are you a lakers fan?

  • steve

    R.C……what type of laker fan are you…..on board when we win jump off when things times get tough……..go ahead unload your support …im sure they dont need supporters like you

  • lakerfan81

    RC you don’t make any sense whatsoever. Ofcourse the lakers passed on Artest. He has been trouble for every team he has played for. Why would that be any different for the lakers. A bunch of other teams passed on Boozer as well. you don’t think that the CAVS would have loved to have kept this guy. james and Boozer would be pretty good together. Besides that Boozer and his agent said they never considered LA. It’s really easy to say should have gotten Boozer after he develops into the player he has developed into. A bunch of other teams are thinking the same thing. baron Davis was never going to be a laker. He would taken about 5-8M less then what he is getting now. I don’t care what Kobe says he was not going to do that. Yes we passed on J-kidd. There are lots of reasons to question the decision making of the FO about (a lot) but not passing on those players. Get your facts straight.

  • RC

    Damn straight I’m a Laker fan, but Kobe and I think alike.

    Kobe wants Artest not no freakin soft LUKE WALTON. So read it again, Luke Walton SUCKS and is weak. Artest is STRONG and plays great. We signed a bench player idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Luke “SOFTIE” Walton gets 6 years $30 million, kiss the laker pride away. This is ridiculous, we pass on Artest, we pass on B. Davis, we pass on Boozer, we pass on J. Kidd, but we sign this softie the first minute possible for 6 years $30 million.

    Walton is a bench player at best, a nice 8th or 9th man off the bench. The lakers are going no where. This sucks and if the Lakers think Luke is worth $30 million, we have 0% of landing KG and 0% of going to the playoffs next year.

    I hope Kobe finds another team and I will unload Laker support right after he is gone. The Lakers front office SUCKS, and getting Luke Walton the first day shows we are desperate.

    They take weeks and weeks for players like KG or JO, but they panic and sign a BENCH player (Walton) to $30 million. F*CK the lakers front office, they suck, and always will suck.

    Hey Jerry West, your job at Memphis is over, can someone in L.A. throw all of the lakers front office under 10 busses, they SUCK, and Luke Walton sucks. The lakers are going no where and will not get KG, this SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • mitch___kupchak

    i told you guys we would sign him!!!

  • http://Lakers.com Ed24

    I think Luke is descent player, but he could get better.

  • steve

    R.C…this does not count against our salary cap…dude do your home work

  • RC

    This is why Kobe has to be superman every damn game, because we sign bench or role players to $30 million.

    All of you that support Luke are no different than Kupcake and Kobe does NOT like Kupcake.

    Luke Walton as a starter SUCKS. Luke Walton as a bench player is average.

    Now Mitch signing him for $30 million, that is Luke raping the Lakers franchise.

    I will go with Kobe, Kobe tells the truth and yes Jerry Buss is an idiot and the entire Lakers front office are idiots, another idiotic move to sign Luke for $30 million, this SUCKS and you marshmallow fans that like Luke will never understand.

    But if Kobe goes, then and only then will you understand when the Lakers will suck for the next decade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    KG is not coming to an organization that signs a bench player to $30 million. Get a clue fools!!!!!! I have the facts!!!!!

  • lakerfan81

    Ok grow up and stop calling names. I don’t know about you but I was trying to have a mature discussion. Maybe you are not capable of that.

  • http://www.lakerfreak.homestead.com lakerfreak

    good job mitch first thing u have done good with for a while now and what r u talking about the Lakers are way better with Luke then they are without him and when they started losing this year was when he got hurt plus thats 4 to 5 million next year which might be used in a trade

  • RC

    Steve, it DOES count against our salary cap (you do your homework), it does NOT impact our MLE (mid level exception, I’m spelling it out for you since you probably have no clue what MLE is).

    So you are WRONG, the $5 million per year does count against our salary cap and puts us close if not over the salary cap and we are impacted with luxury tax which “idiot” jerry buss hates to pay, so we don’t have the resources to get STARTING talent rather than Bench talent as in Walton. Get a clue, and now you have more homework steve boy wonder!!!!!

  • decade

    alright luke welcome back son! now fix dat ankle

  • RC

    Luke is soft and will always be injured, he will NEVER be factor over 82 games. Whatever he got paid, he got paid twice as much as he deserves. Luke Walton is a soft player and if this is a sign of things to come, you heard it here first, there will be NO KG at all.

    Kiss away any chance of getting KG when you piss $30 million on Luke Walton!!!!

  • mitch___kupchak

    [quote comment="4444"]good job mitch first thing u have done good with for a while now and what r u talking about the Lakers are way better with Luke then they are without him and when they started losing this year was when he got hurt plus thats 4 to 5 million next year which might be used in a trade[/quote]

    your welcome :)

  • RC

    Luke is soft and will always be injured, he will NEVER be factor over 82 games. Whatever he got paid, he got paid twice as much as he deserves. Luke Walton is a soft player and if this is a sign of things to come, you heard it here first, there will be NO KG at all.

    Kiss away any chance of getting KG when you piss $30 million on Luke Walton!!!!

  • mitch___kupchak

    [quote comment="4449"]Luke is soft and will always be injured, he will NEVER be factor over 82 games. Whatever he got paid, he got paid twice as much as he deserves. Luke Walton is a soft player and if this is a sign of things to come, you heard it here first, there will be NO KG at all.

    Kiss away any chance of getting KG when you piss $30 million on Luke Walton!!!![/quote]

    don’t be hatin on what i was able to acomplish!!!

  • lakerfan81

    Signing Luke was a good move. He is good all around player. He is not great at anything but good at everything. Could improve defensively which he has been. But he is a very smart player. he makes the right decisions, and he knows how to run the offense. I think he runs the triangle better than anyone else on the team. 4 yrs at 20M probably would have been better than 6 yrs at 30M. But at least the price was not way too much.

  • Darkblaze

    I have to admit that even though it was a decent signing, Luke just like VLad, isn’t worth 30 mill. If you really need to win now then they should’ve took that proposed deal to send Luke to Sacramento for Ron Artest. Yes I’ve heard that Artest has issues. Phil Jackson put Rodman in his place, what makes you think he can’t with Artest?

  • 2k8kb24

    sorry luke but know its time to trade you….we needed to sign you so we could trade you thanks man!!!!

  • Dynasty

    but keeping luke is better than losing luke and luke is better than that bumm vald!!!vlad aint even worth a fucken dime!

  • RC

    I’m with you Darkblaze and 2K8kb24, Luke will be as Kobe says it “shipped the hell outta here’ for ron ron. Ok, now we are talking, so if that is to occur, then GREAT, because I think us three KNOW that Luke is a WEAK and SOFT bench player at best. And it is time for all these laker fans to get educated and learn.

    The laker fans want a nice slow player for the lakers.

    NO, we real laker fans want players that can play TOUCH like Kobe for all 82 games, we don’t care if the player is nice or not, we want WINS baby, and nothing else.

  • SILO

    Well, i love luke and his style of play. perfect for the triangle and he has gotten much better over this year, especially his shooting has really improved, his three point shooting in general.

    Can we get back to KG now PLEASE!?

  • RC

    Both vlade and luke SUCK, we need some strength at the SF position, not two softies like Vlade and Luke. Luke Walton SUCKS as a starter and would be an average 8th or 9th man off the bench.

  • J-Cool

    Yeah We Need To Figure What Mitch Will Make Next Hopefully Getting KG.

  • “Billy” Kupchak

    Whoever says we’re not getting KG because we signed Luke Walton is a dumbass!

  • RC

    How can we get back to KG, when we just pissed away $30 million on a bench player. I don’t know if you know this SILO, but KG is not requesting a few million, we need every dollar to get KG (all $29 million in the first year, and we just pissed $30 million over 6 years), so we can’t get back to KG until we start doing things correctly and the right way.

    Signing Luke BENCH player Walton to $30 Million is the first of many WRONG moves that will prevent us from acquiring KG, get it!!!!

  • LA-KB24

    this is a good signing.. none of you know anything.. luke is a great fir for our triangle offense.. when the laks didnt have luke they were lost offenively becuase phil could not find someone to replace him.. so everyone realize wut he does!

  • lakersforlife77

    RC there is a reason why rumors are called RUMORS, and the whole Ron Aretst trade was never anything but a RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRR. Luke is one of the most consistent players we have, he can run the offense because he actually uses his brain unlike you before you posted your comments RC. Oh yeah and idiot, you might want to figure out that signing our players with expiring contracts does not effect our MLE. Good day to you sir. :D

  • dakobestopper

    Lukie, He’s a world shaker. Best move in Kupchak era.

  • RC

    Forget that last comment, who cares about the triangle offense when both Jordan and Kobe chuck it when you really need 2 points. The triangle offense is never used in the clutch moments. So the hell with the Luke and the triangle offense. Luke SUCKS!!!

    How can we get back to KG, when we just pissed away $30 million on a bench player. I don’t know if you know this SILO, but KG is not requesting a few million, we need every dollar to get KG (all $29 million in the first year, and we just pissed $30 million over 6 years), so we can’t get back to KG until we start doing things correctly and the right way.

    Signing Luke BENCH player Walton to $30 Million is the first of many WRONG moves that will prevent us from acquiring KG, get it!!!!

  • RC

    Lakerfordeath77 with your foolish comments, get educated boy, read below:

    Steve, it DOES count against our salary cap (you do your homework), it does NOT impact our MLE (mid level exception, I’m spelling it out for you since you probably have no clue what MLE is).

    So you are WRONG, the $5 million per year does count against our salary cap and puts us close if not over the salary cap and we are impacted with luxury tax which “idiot” jerry buss hates to pay, so we don’t have the resources to get STARTING talent rather than Bench talent as in Walton. Get a clue, and now you have more homework steve boy wonder!!!!!

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="4465"]Forget that last comment, who cares about the triangle offense when both Jordan and Kobe chuck it when you really need 2 points. The triangle offense is never used in the clutch moments. So the hell with the Luke and the triangle offense. Luke SUCKS!!!

    How can we get back to KG, when we just pissed away $30 million on a bench player. I don’t know if you know this SILO, but KG is not requesting a few million, we need every dollar to get KG (all $29 million in the first year, and we just pissed $30 million over 6 years), so we can’t get back to KG until we start doing things correctly and the right way.

    Signing Luke BENCH player Walton to $30 Million is the first of many WRONG moves that will prevent us from acquiring KG, get it!!!![/quote]

    Please just stop being a laker fan it’ll be easier on you and the rest of us. Go be a Suns fan or something you bandwagoning pussy.

  • RC

    We’ll see if your Luke boy stays with the team before the 2007-08 season starts. Artest rumor will vomit on your lap!!!!!

  • Sepehr

    RC you need to chill out. I am a huge kobe fan and will follow him wherever he goes. If he stays on the lakers, then luke will be a good addition for only 5M a year. Luke is a good passer and a smart player, he is not aggressive like artest or a great defender like him. However artest’s salary is much higher than luke’s and he is not a reliable player. Look at his past 2-3 years and see how many games he has missed for stupid reasons. Luke walton is a great player for the triangle offense, but the lakers need a point guard who can dribble the ball and makes smart decisions. As for Baron Davis, he is known to be injury prone and requires too much of the ball and therefore would not work with Kobe alongside him.

  • RC

    LakerforDEATH77, you are the worst of lakers fans, you are not allowed to buy any Laker gear or be allowed at staples center. You are unauthorized to be a laker fan, ahhahahahhaahhah!!!

  • LukeWalton

    lol only 5 mill a year dude chill out. even if it is THAT bad…its the lakers, whatd you expecT?

  • lakerfan81

    First of all the lakers can not just trade Walton for Artest. Walton has to agree to a sign and trade which obviously he did not or that would have been reported. You could technically trade him after 60 days ( I believe the earliest he could be traded would be DEC. 15 but I might be wrong). Instead of just saying Luke sucks and calling names (which is both annoying and immature) why don’t you use stats and list reasons to defend your point of view? I would think that 11 pts, 5 boards and 4 assists is better than average for a 8th or 9th man off the bench. I do agree with you that Walton is more of a bench player, but he is the type of player that any team would want. He is smart, always makes the right decision and knows what his role is. A quality role player.

  • mR.beaSt

    i think they re-signed him so that they could trade him with a Bynum package to Minny for Garnett. or maybe they’re going to trade him and a filler to the Kings for Artest…

  • LakerNation1

    LUUUUUUUUUUUKE

    he rules dude, smart move for a smart player.

    and for the boy who cant keep his mouth shut in here….im going to give u the biggest insult ever. you, are a Suns fan.

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="4472"]First of all the lakers can not just trade Walton for Artest. Walton has to agree to a sign and trade which obviously he did not or that would have been reported. You could technically trade him after 60 days ( I believe the earliest he could be traded would be DEC. 15 but I might be wrong). Instead of just saying Luke sucks and calling names (which is both annoying and immature) why don’t you use stats and list reasons to defend your point of view? I would think that 11 pts, 5 boards and 4 assists is better than average for a 8th or 9th man off the bench. I do agree with you that Walton is more of a bench player, but he is the type of player that any team would want. He is smart, always makes the right decision and knows what his role is. A quality role player.[/quote]

    Lol it’s a lost cause to ask him to use reason and logic man, he’s obviously incapable to do that so instead he relies on cheap insults and unintelligent bashing.

  • RC

    First lakerfan81, good points on the trade explanation for potentially Artest.

    Luke only averaging 11pts, 5 boards and 4 assist while starting is very SOFT and WEAK (no better way to describe), because he is doing these stats while starting. If he was doing this while coming off the bench, it would be better than an average 8th or 9th man off the bench.
    So the stats you provided prove my point further.

    As a SF starter, Luke should bring the following MINIMUM 16 points, 8 rebounds and 5 assist.

    He is NOT close (11 points is only 65% of this, 5 boards is only 60% of this, and 4 assist (there he is 80%). So you have a SF starter that is produces BENCH player stats (11 pts, 5 rebounds, 4 asst) while starting.

    This is why we INCORRECTLY OVERPAID for Luke “SOFTIE” Walton, and the stats and facts I provided BACK IT UP!!!!!!

  • ericthaimyshoe

    LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! “Lakersforlife77″ for the win homie.

  • RC

    Trading Luke would be the best thing for the Lakers, luke is an example of the talent (or lack thereof) that the Laker front office has improperly overrated.

    This is why Minny WILL NOT give up KG to the Lakers because the Lakers think Bynum and Odom are special and Minny does NOT think Bynum and Odom is special enough for KG.

    So just like Odom and Bynum, Luke is also OVERRATED by the lakers front office and we just piss away money on bench players!!!!

  • Dan

    what’s this bitching about 30 mil over 6 years? That’s only 5 million per year for a guy who knows his role, is good with his teammates, and popular enough to be greeted by “LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE” every time he touches the ball. If it was 4 years, the price tag would’ve been a little higher. At 5 mil a year I think it’s a good value.

  • TheMagicMan32

    luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke

    whoa,what the hell is steve nash doin in that picture?!?!

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="4466"]Lakerfordeath77 with your foolish comments, get educated boy, read below:

    Steve, it DOES count against our salary cap (you do your homework), it does NOT impact our MLE (mid level exception, I’m spelling it out for you since you probably have no clue what MLE is).

    So you are WRONG, the $5 million per year does count against our salary cap and puts us close if not over the salary cap and we are impacted with luxury tax which “idiot” jerry buss hates to pay, so we don’t have the resources to get STARTING talent rather than Bench talent as in Walton. Get a clue, and now you have more homework steve boy wonder!!!!![/quote]

    HMMMM that’s funny I believe I said it doesn’t effect our MLE you dumb sack of shit I never mentioned the salary cap

  • RC

    Luke sucks and real laker fans will be able to understand this, this is what we say to weak ball players on the courts.

  • RC

    “HMMMM that’s funny I believe I said it doesn’t effect our MLE you dumb sack of shit I never mentioned the salary cap”

    To your fat mother!!!!

  • cldenham23

    Luke is the core of our triangle offense. Without him the offense falters. When he hurt his ankle last season that is exactly when the Lakers went on their losing streak. Other players were hurt at the same time, but none had the same effect on the game as Luke. He sees the whole court and gets the ball movin in the right direction. He adds fluidity to the triangle offense. If he didn’t get hurt last season we would have finished with a much better record. He’s our X FACTOR.
    LA did the right thing not letting him slip away.

  • lakerfan81

    Well I did say that he is more of a bench player. But he is a very solid role player. Stats do not always tell the whole story. There are a lot of things that do not show up on the stat sheets. For example, making the right decision on the floor. Making the right cut to the basket; making sure the ball gets to a player while he is in a a good position; making the correct pass the before th assist; making sure the offense is ran correctly; not being hesitant to take a shot (even if you miss it, in the triangle it is very important that open shooters take the shot they have). These are all things that Walton does. 6 years at 30M maybe a little high but not by much. I said 4 yrs at 20M would be better, but there is only a small difference between the two. Also his contract does not do much to hurt as salary-wise. Grants huge (horrific) contract comes off the books today, as does Shammond’s, Parker’s and Mckie’s. This was a good signing by the lakers.

  • LakerNation1

    ban ban ban ban ban

  • kb24

    ay lakerfan if all those contracts were gone then shudnt we hav more money then a MLE??

  • 2k8kb24

    [quote comment="4456"]I’m with you Darkblaze and 2K8kb24, Luke will be as Kobe says it “shipped the hell outta here’ for ron ron. Ok, now we are talking, so if that is to occur, then GREAT, because I think us three KNOW that Luke is a WEAK and SOFT bench player at best. And it is time for all these laker fans to get educated and learn.

    The laker fans want a nice slow player for the lakers.

    NO, we real laker fans want players that can play TOUCH like Kobe for all 82 games, we don’t care if the player is nice or not, we want WINS baby, and nothing else.[/quote]

    thanks man… the only thing is i think we have a better chance of trading luke cuz his stock is okay cuz he had ak sub-par season but he is to small for the SF position in this day and age…. so he needs to go… if vlad rad can improve he s fine because he will come off the becnh… he can be our kucoc…he has the body maybe his second year int the system will make him better…

  • Darkblaze

    I agree that re-signing Luke was a good signing. Aside from that I feel that signing these types of players with this amount of money, regardless of what role they play on your team, is overpaying. For example, it wouldn’t be overpaying if your team has the pieces to win a title or be contenders. If your team is the LAKERS, then you don’t have the luxury to spend money like that. Yes I know it’s a big priority to sign Luke because he runs the three sides well, but since we are the LAKERS we don’t have the luxury or at least shouldn’t have the luxury to spend money on players that normally wouldn’t start if they were in other teams. We need pieces to solve this puzzle and Luke is one of them. Until we are close to finishing the puzzle, then would be the time to reward players such as Luke. That’s just my opinion so go on and flame -_-

  • kb24

    your an idiot RC. wen luke got injured, our record dropped like 10 games

  • lakerfan81

    No we are still over the salary cap even with all those contracts gone. the salary cap for this year will probably be set around 57M (a 7% increase from last years). We are however under the luxury tax which I believe (though I could be wrong) is about 67M.

  • mR.beaSt

    Walton is not a starter. if we land Gasol, JO, or KG without trading Odom, Walton would be a bench player. the Lakers might not trade Farmar in a KG-JO trade, but the Lakers might trade him and Walton for someone like Artest
    JO scenario (NOT including MLE)—Odom, Bynum, Radman, Cook
    C: Mihm/Gasol
    PF: JO/Ronnie
    SF: Evans/Walton
    SG: Kobe/Sasha/Sun Yue
    PG: Farmar/Crittenton

  • RC

    Again, great points 2k8kb24, you know your basketball very well, Luke is too small and weak for the position. The vast majority of laker fans can get educated by you and I.

    Artest starting and vlade off the bench, is much better than settling for luke walton as our starter. He has to be the weakest SF in the entire NBA, bar none, Luke SUCKS and raped the Lakers for $30 million.

  • mR.beaSt

    we should keep Kwame to relieve our salary cap

  • mR.beaSt

    let me set thing straight. LUKE DOES NOT SUCK. he’s valuable and other teams want him because they know what he’s capable of. he’s good trade bait because he’s talented. people should check the facts before mouthing off on something they don’t know about

  • http://www.youtube.com/darkice18 darkice18
  • Darkblaze

    It’s really hard to swallow for these Luke supporters. Like I said, yes, Luke is a role player the Lakers do need; but since we don’t have the pieces to contend for a title we overpayed. If we had all the pieces to contend for a title I would be happy the Lakers would make such a deal for a player that plays a huge role. But we are nowhere close to contending so let’s hope the FO can start making better decisions than this. Plain and simple fact, we overpayed for a player that is better off the bench.

  • Darkblaze

    mR.beaSt, Luke doesn’t suck, but he isn’t worth this much to a team nowhere close to contending. Yes teams want him, but do you think they want him to start? No way, they know he’s an awesome addition off the bench.

  • RC

    I hear you darkblaze, Luke is no more than a role player that got overpaid today.

    Oh well, this is BAD sign of things to come, well we can all kiss KG goodbye, we make mistakes on Luke, we will certainly make a mistake on NOT bringing KG to L.A., the lakers front office has been severely below average for three years and it will be four years soon.

  • BeRkS_kb24

    is that the big news we’ve been waiting for?oh its good !good to sleep now!and maybe tommorow smush ha ha ha!LAKER FOR LIFE mitch you suck!

  • RC

    That is all he is beast, Luke is an “addition OFF THE BENCH”, nothing else.

  • RC

    The signing of Luke Walton unfortunately for us TRUE laker fans will be the biggest signing of the off season, the lakers front office definitely SUCKS (and this is NOT for argument even by you lakerfan81)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 2k8kb24

    [quote comment="4495"]Again, great points 2k8kb24, you know your basketball very well, Luke is too small and weak for the position. The vast majority of laker fans can get educated by you and I.

    Artest starting and vlade off the bench, is much better than settling for luke walton as our starter. He has to be the weakest SF in the entire NBA, bar none, Luke SUCKS and raped the Lakers for $30 million.[/quote]

    thank again…. i think this is the easiest lineup we can get next year

    PG-head
    SG-duh
    SF-artest
    Pf-odom
    C-gasol

    and whoever said that when luke was injured we lost 10 straight games youseem to have forgoten that lamar was injured at the same time.. im not saying luke shouldnt be a starte for any other team in the nba he can be a starter but for a team like ours that likes to push for moderate defense luke can not do… he is to slow!!! and not strong enough!!! oh yeah RC you wanna know the funny part im from jersey and i love the lakers… probbaly more than these so called laker fans that live in L.A. i wish i lived there!!

  • BeRkS_kb24

    yes keep everyone and let kobe go!i like to see him on the east only if you care!!!!!micth!was that a girls name you coward!!!!

  • 2k8kb24

    [quote comment="4500"]It’s really hard to swallow for these Luke supporters. Like I said, yes, Luke is a role player the Lakers do need; but since we don’t have the pieces to contend for a title we overpayed. If we had all the pieces to contend for a title I would be happy the Lakers would make such a deal for a player that plays a huge role. But we are nowhere close to contending so let’s hope the FO can start making better decisions than this. Plain and simple fact, we overpayed for a player that is better off the bench.[/quote]

    i think it was a good idea to sign him for that much… but only if they intend to trade him cuz he is the only player that will have a high stock with a mediocre contract..

  • BeRkS_kb24

    im sorry it’s mitch you bitch !!!

  • mR.beaSt

    i think we didn’t need to re-sign Luke. we did, so now it’s time to trade him!

  • Darkblaze

    I still LAFF (yes I know that’s not how it’s spelled, it’s called being sarcastic) when people think Luke can start for other teams, heck other teams have backups that would start if they would be with the Lakers. Luke is a great role player for the Lakers, and since we don’t have the pieces, not worth 30 mill. Luke: great role player, not worth that much! Ok this is the last 10 cents i’ll leave about this subject.

  • RC

    2k8kb24, Laker fan from new jersey that is cool, the Lakers have fans globally and also on pluto I think.

    The NBA is global so be proud that you are the #1 Laker fan in New Jersey, keep up the great posts.

    I like your lineup and I agree with you, you and I could easily broker acquiring both Artest and Pau Gasol, and I like your lineup of:

    Head, Kobe, Artest, Odom and Pau Gasol (with Odom being the 4th option, not the 2nd)!!!!!!

    Shit, you and I could easily outperform that backward Mitch and the buss family!!!!! I love to win the powerball of 1/2 billion dollars and buy out Jerry buss and company!!!!

  • 2k8kb24

    LMAO RC thanks.. but i think odom would be our 3rd option and PJ would make his rebounds go down and make artest get the rebounds.. so odom can go down the floor and score… cuz artest is a lot more aggressive on the boards…

  • Nikko

    nice! Walton plays basketball like you suppose to. Great news! and RC, you just a wanker!
    30mil for 6 years. A steal!

  • RC

    2K8kb24, I’m with you bro!!!

    You and I see alike, we can easily get the lakers back to the glory days!!! But freaking lakers front office CAN’T, I’m telling you they OVERRATE the laker players we have and I do not believe they have a good eye for talent, some people just don’t have it and I don’t think the present lakers front office has it.

    Everyone wants to think that just because you work in the front office, you know talent, that is NOT true. You and I easily know who are real players and weak players. Our front office is one of the worst in the NBA.

  • 2k8kb24

    yeah… i really hope they intend to trade him buy giving him that contract..

  • mR.beaSt

    this is the starting lineup we should have next year…

    C: Mihm (Lakers said they want to re-sign him)
    PF: JO (Odom, Bynum, Cook, Radman)
    SF: Artest (Walton, Farmar)
    SG: Kobe
    PG: anyone

    we should try to get Wallace, Billups, or just anyone for the PG position

  • cyrus

    Welcome back Luke.
    Good move Mitch.
    But I think this will turnout to be a sign-and-trade.
    Whatever it is, I like Luke and as George Karl(Denver Coach)said: “Luke is the glue holding the team together”

  • RC

    Hey everyone, I just figured it out, Luke was signed for $3.75M first year, so we got him for bench player money, just figured it out, LUKE per my assessment will NOT be starting, ARTEST is coming in to start.

    Phil Jackson said it best, we need players that can START 82 games, and we all know that Luke can not START or play 82 games. So Luke is getting $3.75 million (bench player money) the first year.

    Ron-ron, we will throw a parade when we sign you in the next few days!!!

    Right after the game, Ron Artest says “Luke can you get me that towel, I’ve played 40 minutes and you only played 8 minutes”, hahshahahahahahhaha by the one and only RC!!!!

  • 2k8kb24

    [quote comment="4521"]Hey everyone, I just figured it out, Luke was signed for $3.75M first year, so we got him for bench player money, just figured it out, LUKE per my assessment will NOT be starting, ARTEST is coming in to start.

    Phil Jackson said it best, we need players that can START 82 games, and we all know that Luke can not START or play 82 games. So Luke is getting $3.75 million (bench player money) the first year.

    Ron-ron, we will throw a parade when we sign you in the next few days!!!

    Right after the game, Ron Artest says “Luke can you get me that towel, I’ve played 40 minutes and you only played 8 minutes”, hahshahahahahahhaha by the one and only RC!!!![/quote]

    nice one… but im willing to trade walton for gasol.. lol… i hope jerry west or whoever aggrees to that….

  • RC

    George Karl (loser 4-1, 4-1, 4-1 in each of the first round playoffs for the nuggets) is a pathetic losing coach in the playoffs, so his opinion does not matter. If he thought Luke was anything special, he would have called Luke one second before Mitch.

    So the hell with George “one round and out 4-1, 4-1, 4-1″ Karl

  • LT4Pre$

    what is up with all these negative comments about luke? this guy is great. this is the 1st smart decision management has made in 3 years. luke is a perfect sf for us. he knows the triangle better than anyone and he fills up the box with double digit scoring and can get around 5 rebs and 5 asts. i’d much rather have him start than deavon george who started for us at sf during some of the championship days. nice job for once, Kupcake.

  • mR.beaSt

    the Lakers shouldn’t trade Gasol, Sun Yue, Javaris, Ronnie, and of course Kobe

  • RC

    I’m with you 2k8kb24, I like your strong interest in Pau Gasol, I believe he is the most UNDERRATED star in the NBA. His contribution is very strong and I would take him above JO, and a notch right below KG.

    But for the value, I would go after Pau Gasol first and then Ron Ron second. We would have a great starting five with the following:

    PG–MLE
    SG–MVP
    SF–Artest
    PF–Odom
    C–Gasol

    Wow, I would love to see those guys play, you have two of our starters that would play 1st team all defense (Kobe and Artest), and you would have three all-stars (Gasol, Kobe and Artest with his aggressiveness), and of course the true NBA fan’s MVP, #24!!!!!!

    This is a killer squad that would contend for a NBA championship NEXT season, not 3 years, but the 2007-08 season!!!!

    Let’s get it done, oops, we have mitch, the buss family doing it, shit!!!!!!

  • mR.beaSt

    if we land Artest or keep LO, Walton will never be a starter. even if we don’t have both of those players, Evans would start before him. they tried that in 1 game, and both Kobe and Evans scored 26 points each to lead the team to a W

  • RC

    I agree, Luke is NOT a starter, a bench player for the rest of his natural life!!!

  • 2k8kb24

    [quote comment="4526"]I’m with you 2k8kb24, I like your strong interest in Pau Gasol, I believe he is the most UNDERRATED star in the NBA. His contribution is very strong and I would take him above JO, and a notch right below KG.

    But for the value, I would go after Pau Gasol first and then Ron Ron second. We would have a great starting five with the following:

    PG–MLE
    SG–MVP
    SF–Artest
    PF–Odom
    C–Gasol

    Wow, I would love to see those guys play, you have two of our starters that would play 1st team all defense (Kobe and Artest), and you would have three all-stars (Gasol, Kobe and Artest with his aggressiveness), and of course the true NBA fan’s MVP, #24!!!!!!

    This is a killer squad that would contend for a NBA championship NEXT season, not 3 years, but the 2007-08 season!!!!

    Let’s get it done, oops, we have mitch, the buss family doing it, shit!!!!!![/quote]

    well im not a big fan of gasol but with whats happened the last couple of weeks i dont think we are getting garnett or o’neal i think gasol is our best bet….

  • mR.beaSt

    Odom and Artest might work…but i would rather have someone else in the PF position than LO

  • 2k8kb24

    LMAO… why??? do u have a problem with lamar… he is doing his job!!! better than alot of the other players on this roster!!! like SASHA…

  • eric

    [quote comment="4436"]Damn straight I’m a Laker fan, but Kobe and I think alike.

    Kobe wants Artest not no freakin soft LUKE WALTON. So read it again, Luke Walton SUCKS and is weak. Artest is STRONG and plays great. We signed a bench player idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Luke “SOFTIE” Walton gets 6 years $30 million, kiss the laker pride away. This is ridiculous, we pass on Artest, we pass on B. Davis, we pass on Boozer, we pass on J. Kidd, but we sign this softie the first minute possible for 6 years $30 million.

    Walton is a bench player at best, a nice 8th or 9th man off the bench. The lakers are going no where. This sucks and if the Lakers think Luke is worth $30 million, we have 0% of landing KG and 0% of going to the playoffs next year.

    I hope Kobe finds another team and I will unload Laker support right after he is gone. The Lakers front office SUCKS, and getting Luke Walton the first day shows we are desperate.

    They take weeks and weeks for players like KG or JO, but they panic and sign a BENCH player (Walton) to $30 million. F*CK the lakers front office, they suck, and always will suck.

    Hey Jerry West, your job at Memphis is over, can someone in L.A. throw all of the lakers front office under 10 busses, they SUCK, and Luke Walton sucks. The lakers are going no where and will not get KG, this SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

    you are the most ignorant person ive seen on this site so far..
    you think you can run the lakers organization.. yeah right i bet kobe would shit talk about you right away.. luke is a great player in the triangle dumbass. all you watch is espn highlights of lakers game that has kobe plays only huh.. if you actually watchted the game you’d see how good luke is.

  • RC

    If you look at Gasol’s numbers, they are way better than JO. Gasol shoots 53% compared to JO at 43%. 10% is HUGE difference. Gasol and JO rebound the same, about 9-10 a game. Gasol, is more efficient with assist and less turnovers.

    Gasol is simply a better basketball player, but because Gasol plays for Memphis, hi is an unknown commodity.

    I like him over JO by a wide margin. Now I like KG over Gasol, but only by a small margin, I don’t think Garnett is worth $22 million in salary and his $6.75 million trade kicker. He is overpaid, remember he got that salary way before the maximum $$ contracts were later lowered after he signed his deal, so he is OVERPAID for today’s maximum deals.

    KG, I like and want him #1, but for the value, Pau Gasol is first the BEST VALUE in the entire NBA, get him NOW!!!!!!

  • 2k8kb24

    LOL… look at the picture of LUKE… look at nash’s hands… nasty… thats nash for you…

  • eric

    [quote comment="4526"]I’m with you 2k8kb24, I like your strong interest in Pau Gasol, I believe he is the most UNDERRATED star in the NBA. His contribution is very strong and I would take him above JO, and a notch right below KG.

    But for the value, I would go after Pau Gasol first and then Ron Ron second. We would have a great starting five with the following:

    PG–MLE
    SG–MVP
    SF–Artest
    PF–Odom
    C–Gasol

    Wow, I would love to see those guys play, you have two of our starters that would play 1st team all defense (Kobe and Artest), and you would have three all-stars (Gasol, Kobe and Artest with his aggressiveness), and of course the true NBA fan’s MVP, #24!!!!!!

    This is a killer squad that would contend for a NBA championship NEXT season, not 3 years, but the 2007-08 season!!!!

    Let’s get it done, oops, we have mitch, the buss family doing it, shit!!!!!![/quote]

    that startling lineup i doubt would happen before kobe’s career is over..

  • RC

    Oh, forgot, Pau Gasol is a 20 pts, 10 rebound type player.

    I like Lamar to go to Detroit for Chauncey. Heck Lamar can start at SF for detroit and have tayshawn coming off as 6th man.

    I think Lamar is fools gold, he is a nice 4th option, but him at #2 NO NO NO NO NO NO, can’t make it any clearer.

    He is too lanky, and gets nicked up and injured because he is built too lanky and just not strong. He is a good starter but he makes too much for his contributions (or lack thereof). This is why I can have him start for the lakers but only as 4th option after KOBE (MVP), Gasol and Artest. Artest yes will outrebound him but Artest is a better hustler and creator than Odom, this is why I place Odom as 4th option in terms of who has a play called for them.

    But I want Odom outta here on a one-way ticket to anywhere but L.A. unless it is back to the Clippers!!!!!

  • LAkers

    [quote comment="4535"]LOL… look at the picture of LUKE… look at nash’s hands… nasty… thats nash for you…[/quote]

    Hahahaha Nash is such a queer

  • FV

    If you think resigning Luke was a bad idea, you really don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="4535"]LOL… look at the picture of LUKE… look at nash’s hands… nasty… thats nash for you…[/quote]

    I always knew he was a crotch grabber

  • RC

    I think it has been said, Luke is a bench player and the lakers overpaid for a bench player, case closed, NEXT!!!!

  • lakerfan81

    Gasol and Sun will not be on the team next year. Both will have to play internationally for a couple more years. That is unless one of them is spectacular in summer league, but that is unlikely.

    Darkblaze I agree with you one some points. having quality role players on a team that can not contend is not as important as having quality role players on a team that can contend. But that being said you can not over look signing quality players while you are waiting to make a trade that takes your team to the next level. If you wait too long then these players will not be available. Hten you will not be able to contend anyways.

    Also Luke can be a good starter. It just depends on what your roster looks like. I will give a few examples. Look at Dallas’ two centers. neither one puts up good numbers. But sharing equal time they make a good center. The same goes for San Antonio at the center position. The lakers when they had Shaq and Kobe had players share PF position. Chicago with Jordan had players share both the PG and center positions. Luke as a starter, though he does not put up spectacular numbers, is not that bad because he fits in perfectly in the system the Lakers run. But for it to be effective you need the talent to go with it both in starters and bench players.

  • RC

    Luke will only be a bench player for the lakers and they overpaid him, case closed, Next case to sort out!!!!!

  • 2k8kb24

    [quote comment="4534"]If you look at Gasol’s numbers, they are way better than JO. Gasol shoots 53% compared to JO at 43%. 10% is HUGE difference. Gasol and JO rebound the same, about 9-10 a game. Gasol, is more efficient with assist and less turnovers.

    Gasol is simply a better basketball player, but because Gasol plays for Memphis, hi is an unknown commodity.

    I like him over JO by a wide margin. Now I like KG over Gasol, but only by a small margin, I don’t think Garnett is worth $22 million in salary and his $6.75 million trade kicker. He is overpaid, remember he got that salary way before the maximum $$ contracts were later lowered after he signed his deal, so he is OVERPAID for today’s maximum deals.

    KG, I like and want him #1, but for the value, Pau Gasol is first the BEST VALUE in the entire NBA, get him NOW!!!!!![/quote]

    well im not saying hes not a good player.. but number one compared to garnetts fire… and also.. PAU’s natural position is PF… hes more of a duncan.. but he would be a great offensive upgrade as C… just a question for you RC… im not sure about this how is his D… like i really like KWAME’s POST D..

  • RC

    Kwame’s post defense is solid but is it more than fully offset by his low NBA IQ and his below average offensive skills. Kwame has to go on the first one-way ticket out of L.A. ASAP!!!!!!!

  • laker4life

    good job Mitch K. thats a good start :)

  • lakerfan81

    Gasol is an underated defensive player. He is good at help defense from the weak side (2 blk/g). He is not spectacular at 1-on-1 defense, but would be a better defender against stronger PF than Odom is. I also agree that Gasol is a better acquisition than JO. Its just a matter of whether he is available or not. RC said that he would not trade for Miller. But if Memphis is completely rebuilding, which they would be if they are trading Gasol, then taking their second largest/longest contract would sweeten a deal. Kobe and Miller could work things out (I think, sometimes I have to questions Kobes maturity level). Miller would be great off the bench. Also taking on Miller’s contract would make a deal from us better than one from Chicago, who was looking to acquire him last season. Chicago would not be willing to take Millers contract. If Kobe and Miller could not get along (I would hope as adults that they could) Miller could be traded during the season.

  • RC

    Kobe is the ruler for the Lakers, not Jerry Buss, since Kobe is the face, and the product of the lakers.

    Kobe wants Artest and does NOT want Miller, so don’t bring any player with any rift with Kobe. Keep those players away and you can still get Pau Gasol, we’ll take another player but not Miller.

    Make sure the Lakers front office get Kobe’s permission on everything they plan with NEW players on the team, in fact Kobe is the leader of the team!!!!!

  • mj2kb

    i hope its a sign n trade cuz walton i believe is a role player and not very good on defense, where artest is. Lets face it guys, walton can not defend tmac, durant,lebron, and other SF. You can not expect kobe to do everything and he needs help on defense. Defense wins championships, our offense is good enough.

  • RC

    Excellent post MJ2KB, you have the right stuff and say it like it should be told, Luke is a role player at best (also weak on defense), case closed, NEXT!!!!!

  • fred0s

    The only change the Lakers need is Kwame for Artest. Think about it, if Bynum is working as hard as officials have said (same with Farmar) than our problems should be over. But Artest should help with defensive ineffectiveness either in the perimeter or the post (he is about 260 lbs, big enough to guard most centers if that is what is needed of him).

  • RC

    Great post fred0s, and that would have Artest starting as SF and keeping Luke OVERPAID walton on the bench, nice post!!!!

  • http://thrrhtrh joge

    best move cupcake has ever made

  • RC

    [quote comment="4555"]best move cupcake has ever made[/quote]

    If that is the best move kupcake has ever made, no longer Kobe wants to leave, I would want to leave on the next plane out like Kobe!!!!

  • LAKERFAN1

    RC has no idea what he is talking about if it wasnt 4 luke the lakers would have not had the great first half of the season as they did….and it helps satisfy kobe

  • lakerfan81

    Yes give into to Kobe because he wants to act like a 2 year old. That makes a lot of sense. Besides I don’t see any reason why Kobe and Miller could not play together. Besides if you wanted to you could trade Miller for Artest. But if you did not include Sacramento in the deal to begin with you could not do it until later. And the more teams you include in a trade, the less likely a trade gets done. That is the reason no KG trade was made before the draft. Also the walton for Artest was not a legitimate trade. I think Sacramento could get a better offer. I think they wanted Bynum in any trade. But they took a center in the draft (horrible decision, a & footer who can’t rebound, smart, Can you say Mihm, at best) so I don’t know who they would require in a trade. Sac could probably get a better deal with a different team. I also do not think they would deal with the lakers unless they thought Artest would sabotage the team (teams do not usually trade in the same conference, which is not always so smart). Besides I still do not think Kobe and Artest could play together. Just my opinion. But if the lakers traded for him and I was wrong, I would gladly admit to it.

  • punkjones

    RC –
    Well, at least you’re not shy about your opinions! I feel that Walton is very slow on D and that’s a big problem, nonetheless, it seems as if this was the plan all along, to resign him so I’m not too bent on it. I would personally have at least tried to sign and trade him either as a piece for Garnett or on his own to Sacto for Artest. The problem is there’s no back up plan there. If you play it that way, you kiss him goodbye – he knows that there is no loyalty to him and instead of agreeing to S and T he just tests the free agent market and goes somewhere else. It would have been a very risky move. Also remember that Artest is a free agent next year. He can still possibly be picked up.

    In the meantime Walton is a serviceable role player, a good team guy, a fan favorite and has some serious pedigree. What he lacks in athleticism he makes up for in smarts and his passing ability on the offensive end. His shot still sucks and he needs to get back with his coach. One thing is he is not a slacker. He will work to improve his shot which is the single most important thing he needs right now.

    The coaching staff is high on him and as long as we have Phil he’s a very good fit.

    The biggest mistake the Lakers made that I can see right now was the Vlad Rad signing. It seems like they did it in case they couldn’t sign Luke, and because Vlad is capable of lighting it up from the outside. They could still possibly be a good tandem at small forward, but the problem as you brought up is the lack of defense at that position.

    This puts our problems in the front court even more into perspective. Right now Walton’s passing ability is wasted on scrub boy Andrew and no hands Krummy. If you’re going to have a great entry passer like Luke at least get a decent post player to receive those passes. Bynum is way way way too much of a project for Phil and Kobe and Luke as well. Luke does have some polish to his game and it’s not utilized with the current roster.

    This is why I think it’s imperative for the Lakers to get something done for a big guy. I don’t give a damn about the minutae of who’s better JO or Gasol. The Lakers need to get off their KG daydream right now and wake the hell up. Our package got rejected in case Mitch noticed and no, he was not very close to getting KG. Not even in the running. Go ahead and trade Bynum and Odom for JO. It’s on the table and it’s doable. I’d love to get Gasol alternatively but I don’t think any of us have any clue on what it would actually take to pry him away from Minny. I know he’s expressed interest in gettting out but as LF81 pointed their FO is not under any kind of duress or pressure to do so. It makes it hard to move a guy like that. He makes the same money as LO so that would make sense to move him, but then who plays PF? Krummy? Not good. Gasol and Brown together in the front court? I don’t see it happening somehow. Not sure why.

    O Neal and Brown I can definitely see together in the front court, and I like the look of that. That’s two solid 6 ft. 11 guys with athleticism to get out on pick and roll and defend the hell out of the lane. I just think that’s dynamite. Screw Bynum. He confuses everything and so does Lamar who will not post up to save his life.
    We would be world’s better with O Neal in the post, getting passes from Walton. It’s actually a perfect fit. Kwame can just rebound and defend and if he doesn’t like it he can get the hell out next year when his contract is up. In the meantime he’s a damn big defender down there who can bang alongside JO’s shotblocking.

  • LAKERFAN1

    i think they should keep Bynum ive heard he is working really hard this offseason 2 prove every1 wrong HE WANTS 2 B A LAKER 4 LIFE!!!….this kid is going 2 b winning championships 4 us in the future…no use trading him kobe is going 2 leave when he has the chance 2 opt out n e ways

  • dakobestopper

    RC – why don’t resurrect wilt? what kind of fantasy punch are you guzzlin’? Crittenton, was a pick to entice the wolves. lukie, is step one for the future. i can see this thing happening. but, Gasol, not marc and artest. never.

  • RC

    [quote comment="4559"]RC -
    Well, at least you’re not shy about your opinions! I feel that Walton is very slow on D and that’s a big problem, nonetheless, it seems as if this was the plan all along, to resign him so I’m not too bent on it. I would personally have at least tried to sign and trade him either as a piece for Garnett or on his own to Sacto for Artest. The problem is there’s no back up plan there. If you play it that way, you kiss him goodbye – he knows that there is no loyalty to him and instead of agreeing to S and T he just tests the free agent market and goes somewhere else. It would have been a very risky move. Also remember that Artest is a free agent next year. He can still possibly be picked up.

    In the meantime Walton is a serviceable role player, a good team guy, a fan favorite and has some serious pedigree. What he lacks in athleticism he makes up for in smarts and his passing ability on the offensive end. His shot still sucks and he needs to get back with his coach. One thing is he is not a slacker. He will work to improve his shot which is the single most important thing he needs right now.

    The coaching staff is high on him and as long as we have Phil he’s a very good fit.

    The biggest mistake the Lakers made that I can see right now was the Vlad Rad signing. It seems like they did it in case they couldn’t sign Luke, and because Vlad is capable of lighting it up from the outside. They could still possibly be a good tandem at small forward, but the problem as you brought up is the lack of defense at that position.

    This puts our problems in the front court even more into perspective. Right now Walton’s passing ability is wasted on scrub boy Andrew and no hands Krummy. If you’re going to have a great entry passer like Luke at least get a decent post player to receive those passes. Bynum is way way way too much of a project for Phil and Kobe and Luke as well. Luke does have some polish to his game and it’s not utilized with the current roster.

    This is why I think it’s imperative for the Lakers to get something done for a big guy. I don’t give a damn about the minutae of who’s better JO or Gasol. The Lakers need to get off their KG daydream right now and wake the hell up. Our package got rejected in case Mitch noticed and no, he was not very close to getting KG. Not even in the running. Go ahead and trade Bynum and Odom for JO. It’s on the table and it’s doable. I’d love to get Gasol alternatively but I don’t think any of us have any clue on what it would actually take to pry him away from Minny. I know he’s expressed interest in gettting out but as LF81 pointed their FO is not under any kind of duress or pressure to do so. It makes it hard to move a guy like that. He makes the same money as LO so that would make sense to move him, but then who plays PF? Krummy? Not good. Gasol and Brown together in the front court? I don’t see it happening somehow. Not sure why.

    O Neal and Brown I can definitely see together in the front court, and I like the look of that. That’s two solid 6 ft. 11 guys with athleticism to get out on pick and roll and defend the hell out of the lane. I just think that’s dynamite. Screw Bynum. He confuses everything and so does Lamar who will not post up to save his life.
    We would be world’s better with O Neal in the post, getting passes from Walton. It’s actually a perfect fit. Kwame can just rebound and defend and if he doesn’t like it he can get the hell out next year when his contract is up. In the meantime he’s a damn big defender down there who can bang alongside JO’s shotblocking.[/quote]

    Punkjones, wow that was a post. That was NOT a punk post, that was an “A” post. You have provided good information on Walton, the first of its kind. What you’re saying is that Walton’s strengths are overshadowed by the clumsy players we have in the post (K. Brown) and other players that don’t work well to accentuate more of Walton’s highlights. Ok, I can live with that, I’m pleased that he is only paid bench player money his first year $3.75 million and his salary will grow to $6.25 million in year 6 of this deal.

    Tell you what, I hope Walton will agree to a sign and trade or come off the bench as a Laker, and I can live with his salary if either of those 2 options occur.

    Great post again, strong points and quite persuasive, you get an RC star for that!!!!!

  • lakerfan81

    punkjones you are one of the few people on here who actually think about what they are saying and do not revert to calling names. However, though I agree that JO is a big improvement over Odom, that trade does not take the lakers to the elite level. So it is a hard decision for Jerry Buss who is paying the bills (which would probably have to include a contract extension which would be doubled because of luxury tax) to make. If I was putting out Millions of dollars I would want a good chance of making it back (by contending for a title or at least making it up in endorsements like they if they got KG). Thats just smart business and the NBA is a business before anything else.

  • RC

    Ladies and beautiful ladies I might add and Gentlemen, first things first, what Kobe and Laker Nation wants first is to get out of the damn first round.

    Now first, you have to target to be one of the 4 best teams in the Western Conference to ensure (not guarantee) that. Thus, you have to assemble a roster for 82 games (not the first 40 games), but a roster for the entire season that will have a top 4 seed record.

    So what Kobe is upset about is we have let players pass us by (Artest, Boozer, J. Kidd) that would have helped us achieve a top 4 record in order to have home court advantage in the first round to win the damn series.

    But because we only have bench players (Walton, Kwame, Bynum, Parker) starting, we have ended up with a bottom 4 seed and we get our asses kicked in the 7 game series against the Suns. I we finished top 4, we would have played Houston or Utah, and we would have kicked their asses.

    So first things first, get STARTING caliber players ASAP in L.A., so we can have a top 4 seed record in the western conference. All wew have as of right now is sign a BENCH player, case closed, NEXT!!!!

  • TheMagicMan32

    maybe we should call this the hate-forum since so many people talk trash here.

  • punkjones

    Of course I meant prying Gasol from Memphis not Minny. I’ve got Minny on the brain too after all this KG insanity. I love KG. I’d love to see him in purple and gold. But these guys basically told us F-YOU and KG did not step up to the plate and make it happen. I’m not sure what’s going on with that? As I’ve said before I think Minny is happy to just let him walk next year and put the 23 mill back in their pockets, like “Oh well.”

    Mitch is foolish to buy into their crap right now. He’s got a deal on the table in Indy and all you naysayers who are falling into this “JO’s not worth Bynum and Odom” nonsense are just as bad as our front office. Is it worth the risk of losing Kobe to retain Bynum in this case? And all this sentimentality over Odom is way out of place. He has always been a question mark here – can we make him fit? Guess what. They can’t. He doesn’t post up. He can’t defend the bigs. He looks good against Marion but that’s because Marion is a 3 playing 4 in an uptempo system.

    You think a career underachiever/but good talent Tweener in Odom and a Project w/capital P in Bynum aren’t worth an All Star Big right now? You are agreeing with Lakers front office. Isn’t that a warning sign? It’s not just to placate Kobe. The move would be great for the organization. You finally bring in a second superstar player. So what if he ain’t KG – we aren’t getting KG!! It’s not overpaying. You are over rating our players. Bynum is not that great. Pacers are the only other team making a play for him that think that way. Take advantage of it!!

  • Lakers305

    THIS was by far a dumber signing than Radmanovich last season. I do not see the merit of giving an 11ppg guy 30 mil for six years. I also dont we why MItch Kupchak doesn’t try to get Nocioni away from Chicago. he is better than LUke walton and also plays way better defense. not to mention better shooter.

    I dont see the merit in giving a guy who at his best can only give you 11ppg. Nobody on the market would have given luke that kind of money. he is a 20-24 mil guy. We are giving out 30 million dollar contracts like free coupons while we didn’t want to give Derek Fisher that same amount of money.

    Bitch Kupcake sucks, Jerry Butt suck and Jim Butt sucks.

  • RC

    [quote comment="4567"]maybe we should call this the hate-forum since so many people talk trash here.[/quote]

    Well Magic32, the Buss family is to blame due to their 3 year vacation full of mistake after mistake. I understand that influential figures review these threads, so we laker fans are taking it to the street and expressing our disatisfaction about a lot of wrongdoing the Buss family has done over the last three years including that elementary trade (Shaq for Butler, SOFT Odom, and no-play Brian Grant).

    It is time to educate the Buss family how to run the organization including player personnel, salaries to offer, and other key activities to get the Lakers back to contend for a title. Let’s face it, they have FAILED the last three years, so they need to go back to school (HERE) to learn how to run this organization. That is why I’m here in order to train the Buss family!!!!!

    But another mistake like Luke Walton signing, I will win the Powerball and buy the team from the Buss family and I will make all Laker decisions, so get used to it!!!!

  • RC

    [quote comment="4568"]Of course I meant prying Gasol from Memphis not Minny. I’ve got Minny on the brain too after all this KG insanity. I love KG. I’d love to see him in purple and gold. But these guys basically told us F-YOU and KG did not step up to the plate and make it happen. I’m not sure what’s going on with that? As I’ve said before I think Minny is happy to just let him walk next year and put the 23 mill back in their pockets, like “Oh well.”

    Mitch is foolish to buy into their crap right now. He’s got a deal on the table in Indy and all you naysayers who are falling into this “JO’s not worth Bynum and Odom” nonsense are just as bad as our front office. Is it worth the risk of losing Kobe to retain Bynum in this case? And all this sentimentality over Odom is way out of place. He has always been a question mark here – can we make him fit? Guess what. They can’t. He doesn’t post up. He can’t defend the bigs. He looks good against Marion but that’s because Marion is a 3 playing 4 in an uptempo system.

    You think a career underachiever/but good talent Tweener in Odom and a Project w/capital P in Bynum aren’t worth an All Star Big right now? You are agreeing with Lakers front office. Isn’t that a warning sign? It’s not just to placate Kobe. The move would be great for the organization. You finally bring in a second superstar player. So what if he ain’t KG – we aren’t getting KG!! It’s not overpaying. You are over rating our players. Bynum is not that great. Pacers are the only other team making a play for him that think that way. Take advantage of it!![/quote]

    Punkjones, you get another RC star, I’m with you bro, get JO now and the hell with KG, he is a loyalist to a fault, the hell with KG. If KG was a MAN, he would have been like Kobe, a leader, like Kobe, the revolutionist of the NBA, like Kobe, a MAN!!!!

  • ericthaimyshoe

    RC, GET A LIFE! You’ve been on this since 3pm. It’s been 3 hours and you’re still on here talking about Luke. LOL!

  • RC

    [quote comment="4569"]THIS was by far a dumber signing than Radmanovich last season. I do not see the merit of giving an 11ppg guy 30 mil for six years. I also dont we why MItch Kupchak doesn’t try to get Nocioni away from Chicago. he is better than LUke walton and also plays way better defense. not to mention better shooter.

    I dont see the merit in giving a guy who at his best can only give you 11ppg. Nobody on the market would have given luke that kind of money. he is a 20-24 mil guy. We are giving out 30 million dollar contracts like free coupons while we didn’t want to give Derek Fisher that same amount of money.

    Bitch Kupcake sucks, Jerry Butt suck and Jim Butt sucks.[/quote]

    Lakers[quote comment="4569"]THIS was by far a dumber signing than Radmanovich last season. I do not see the merit of giving an 11ppg guy 30 mil for six years. I also dont we why MItch Kupchak doesn’t try to get Nocioni away from Chicago. he is better than LUke walton and also plays way better defense. not to mention better shooter.

    I dont see the merit in giving a guy who at his best can only give you 11ppg. Nobody on the market would have given luke that kind of money. he is a 20-24 mil guy. We are giving out 30 million dollar contracts like free coupons while we didn’t want to give Derek Fisher that same amount of money.

    Bitch Kupcake sucks, Jerry Butt suck and Jim Butt sucks.[/quote]
    305, I’m with you bro, you definitely get a RC star for that post!!!!

    Lakers305, I’m with you bro, you get a RC star for that post!!!!

  • ericthaimyshoe

    Nash is grabbing Luke’s dick in the picture LOL!

  • RC

    [quote comment="4572"]RC, GET A LIFE! You’ve been on this since 3pm. It’s been 3 hours and you’re still on here talking about Luke. LOL![/quote]

    Any post will help to rescue the Buss family from mistakes like the re-signing of Luke will help even if it takes 24/7!!!

  • RC

    [quote comment="4575"]Nash is grabbing Luke’s dick in the picture LOL![/quote]

    Already covered on another thread, get a LIFE, hahahhahaha, you “ERICTHAIMYSHOE– WHAT A RIDICULOUS NAME and your boyfriend Luke can get married in your hot tub, hahahahhahahaha

    Luke is a bench player, case closed and I’m out,LATER NEXT TOPIC!!!!!!

  • dakobestopper

    RC? RC? Luke is coming to kick your a$$. he will palm your head and flip you to kwame for an alley-oop, oop. jack will smile.

  • RC

    Luke is too weak to palm anything, and Kwame has hands that CAN’T catch anything, so try again, hahahahahahhahahhahahah!!!!!

  • lakers4lyfe

    this RC guy is funny…he keeps talking in circles. i think its bout time you stfu man.

  • dakobestopper

    your pinhead would be easy to palm even for sasha. and phil himself could still catch you. even thrown your are slow. grasshopper.

  • http://kb24.com MO6

    i agree with the ppl that are saying that are lineup should be

    MLE
    Kobe
    Artest
    Odom
    Pau Gasol

    That is a really good lineup.

  • ericthaimyshoe

    LOL RC! I bet you’re some pale fag that has a Monster Energy Drink in one hand and clicking the refresh button on this page with your other.

  • RC

    [quote comment="4587"]i agree with the ppl that are saying that are lineup should be

    MLE
    Kobe
    Artest
    Odom
    Pau Gasol

    That is a really good lineup.[/quote]

    I’m with you M06 bro!!! That is a good lineup, even if Odom is outta there replaced by Mihm or Magloire.

  • http://kb24.com MO6

    we should sign Devean George again he opted out of his contract with the Mavs b/c he didnt get enough playing time he should come back to LA.

  • STFU RC

    Pau Gasol? Dude can’t even grow a decent beard. Sacto will never send Artest to L.A. so everyone needs to recognize. So how about you shut up, slut!

  • dakobestopper

    Pau Gasol is soft. He should play for the pistons. where, getting out of the way of a driving guard is OK.

  • STFU RC

    Bring back Van Exel!!!

  • STFU RC

    we should sign Devean George again he opted out of his contract with the Mavs b/c he didnt get enough playing time he should come back to LA.[/quote]

    Bring back Van Exel!!! Give Sedale Threatt a contract. Where’s Medvedenko? Travis Knight!!!!!

  • http://www.vivathegame.com Viva The Game | Dating Tips

    This was a super good move by Mitch. The west is deep and we need a deep bench as well as a superstar to make pass this hump we are in. Mitch is trying his hardest to make things happen. There’s a reason for everything. If he signs Kevin than this is probably going to be the deal of a lifetime. This will put him up there with Jerry West. I’m still praying. Something big will happen this week I’m sure. The Lakers are making moves. Kobe sit tight.

  • Eric Thai

    Every week there’s supposedly a “big trade” yet .. nothing happens.

  • dakobestopper

    medvedenko is an unrestricted FA out of ATL. Buss should hire him as a towel boy. he is rangy and could reach areas on the floor quickly to clean up sweat.

  • steve

    RC…i stand corrected…i dont have a problem with the fact you are well up to speed with the ins and outs of an nba front office….speaking of front office which one do you run?…

  • http://Lakers.com Ed24

    Isn’t there any new fucken news. I’m sick of reading about fucken Luke. Post something new up please.

  • http://myspace.com/crunklilgangsta Kenny

    Wow RC your an idiot…………. fo real this is a good sign .. and its an MLE so its not against our salary cap and ur so ignorant and you have no life you sit here the whole day and have arguments with other laker fans …CRY ME A RIVER…good job mitch this is actuall a good thing

  • http://www.youtube.com/darkice18 darkice18

    does this mean we cant sign the MLE cause luke took it???im confused?????

  • steve

    KENNY……i second that…a true laker fan sticks with the team through wins and losses…..and is not a ship jumper

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="4603"]does this mean we cant sign the MLE cause luke took it???im confused?????[/quote]

    No we don’t have to use our mle on free agents who were previously signed with us, so it does not effect our mle, so we still have the 5 yrs/ 30 mil or wutever it is to use on free agents.

  • lakersfan17

    Hope we could still sign Mo or Blake with our MLE.

  • BringDFishBack

    RC, you have been posting on here for 4 straight hours. Seriously? Nothing better to do with your life?

    Also, i only read some of the replies at the top, but it DOES NOT affect out cap. We were aleady over without signing luke, so we were paying the luxury tax no matter what. We couldnt sign anyone else except for the MLE if we signed luke or not.

    As for you saying he’s not good, before he got hurt he was the league leader of 3 pt % and is one of the few people on the team who actually get the triangle, so that is valueable. We he gets a mismatch he has shown he knows how to post them up.

    Thank you Mitch for finally doing something right, got the job done right away before luke could even see offers from other teams. well done.

  • Eric Thai

    Mitch stayed up past his bedtime to call Luke Walton. His momma’s gonna kill him, but at least he’s doing it for the Lakers!

  • kevin

    this better not be phase 2

  • J-Cool

    RC Do You Think That Maybe We Using Luke In A Sign And Trade?

    Kevin

    I Think Phase 2 Is To Probably Trade Farmar With Bynum And Luke.

  • Rpoc

    Nash likes to grab ‘em balls.

    Anyway……. 6 years?!?!

  • J-Cool

    We Used Our Bird Rights On Luke Walton. Some It Is A Good Move.

  • punkjones

    RC and LF81 –
    Thanks much for the props on the post! Likewise. Both you guys have great points. LF81 – right back at you, you always have well thought, well spoken points, regardless of agreement or disagreement and it’s great to read. RC same thing, great impassioned takes and we’re all coming from the same place here. Improve the friggin’ Lakers. Realistically, Kobe has been saying what so many of us have said. While it gets the ire up in many, it was necessary, and more power to him for stirring things up. Did he go about it all wrong? Could it have been behind closed doors? Maybe. Probably. But there’s some really bad communication going on in Lakerland management.

    So I guess LF81 and I will agree to disagree about the LO thing. My feeling is like RC – there’s no ensuring you will get to the elite level no matter what moves you make. There are injuries that can knock you out, bad matchups in the playoffs (GSW vs. Dallas), poor team chemistry, bad coaching etc. The good news is we’ve got a hardcore coaching staff, Kobe, and some halfway decent pieces.

    But here I just feel I’ve got to reiterate what RC is saying – we desperately need some SERIOUS players. Really, we need two guys who can do their jobs:

    Point Guard
    Post Player

    I see that we can get one of those players in JO. LF81 says it doesn’t make us elite, I say I don’t know what the hell elite is any more? Dallas was supposed to be elite but they got beat in the first round this year and choked in the finals the year before! How is that elite? Don’t think we could kick their ass with JO and a good point guard? I do.

    Are the Suns elite? Then how come they haven’t been to the finals? I know, they got jobbed this year. No doubt. But they have not proved a damn thing yet except that they can win 60 regular season games. That’s not enough to be elite in my opinion.

    Spurs. Well,fine. They are certainly elite. But they are beatable. If you notice Kobe has no fear of them and we seem to play them pretty well actually. They are a great team, yes. But a real post player and defender in JO would go a long way in playing them. We also REALLY need the point guard in the Spurs case to try and stop some of that penetration. Think of Tony Parker trying to drive the lane with JO and Kwame helping out back there? That is huge. Bynum? Not so great. Odom … ooooh. Really not so great.

    The biggest thing the Lakers need to improve from last year is defense – and where are the holes? Post and penetration. Bring in simply two guys who can do the job. I don’t care if it’s Gasol or JO but those are the best two guys for the post position. If knucklehead Mitch can’t get that done he should be fired. Plain and simple. One deal is actually on the table and the other one would take some imagination on his part. That’s why he gets paid. He better fucking earn it.

    I don’t know about the point. I’d do the Luther Head deal just to get rid of Cook and his ridiculous contract. From the games I watched of Houston this year I was impressed with Head, particularly his D, and also his three point shooting, something we could really use to keep the heat off Kobe.

    Those are two easy deals that fell into the Lakers collective lap. Luther Head/Cook and JO. If they just did those deals there’s no telling whether they would be so called ELITE or not, but I don’t really care. I just want them to improve, and improve somewhat dramatically. They should be in very good shape with those moves. They are realistic and solid. Bynum and KG are both pipe dreams right now. We don’t have time to wait on an immature 19 years old to grow up and no one can tell if this kid will be any good or not.

  • kb24

    lineup

    mo williams/ hudson / jc
    kobe / head
    walton / evans
    garnett / turiaf / vlad
    mihm / ????????

  • punkjones

    BTW – I do not agree that this was a dumber signing than Vlad Rad. Luke has proven that he’s valuable (if flawed) to the organization. Vlad Rad never did anything but lie to the org and commence to dislodge his shoulder doing something idiotic that was plainly in violation to both common sense and his Laker contract.

    The stupidest thing is that the Lakers did not cancel his overpaid contract after seeing how he didn’t fit well and underachieved for the first half of the season. That is stupid. Signing Luke is understandable and can be dismissed at worst as too conservatively safe a move to help the team in the short term in my opinion. Sure it would be great to get Artest for Luke. That’s what I’d most like, but if I were a multimillion dollar operation like the Lakers I’d think twice about getting rid of a solid guy like Luke for a certifiable headcase like Artest who blows up every team he plays for. Hurts me to say it ’cause I love Artest’s game and thinking of him with Kobe gives me visions of championship banners, but . . . I really can’t blame these guys for taking the safe route on this one. And yeah, I don’t think we realistically could’ve gotten Artest for just Luke. The asking price was Luke and Bynum. No way in hell they were going to take that chance. And people complain about giving up Bynum and Odom for JO. Come on. He’s also a safe bet compared to Ron.

  • RC

    Punkjones and 2k8kb24, the three of us are on the SAME page!!!! We want the lakers to get their asses in gear and get this team to Kobe’s standards, not Jerry Buss post 2004 standards thus far. Kobe’s standards is championship standards, NOTHING else damn it.

    So Punkjones, I’m with you, the hell with KG, let’s focus NOW and get the JO deal done NOW, JO can hold his own. If not JO, then mitch earn your dough and be creative and get Gasol. Mitch, why don’t you call non-working Jerry West and ask him what it would take, have you thought of that yet? The bottom line is get JO or Pau Gasol THIS WEEK, not later in the summer when both JO and Pau Gasol are GONE, and KG is locked up by Mchale in his prison.

    So the Buss family, get done with your 3 year vacation and do a trade. None of us today care, except the few marshmallow laker fans, about the luke “nothing” walton re-signing, we want a REAL acquisition which you haven’t made in 3 years.

    Get off the toilet Buss family, you guys haven’t done anything in 3 years including re-signing and overpaying Luke Walton today!!!!!

  • Sureno4Life

    [quote comment="4573"][quote comment="4569"]THIS was by far a dumber signing than Radmanovich last season. I do not see the merit of giving an 11ppg guy 30 mil for six years. I also dont we why MItch Kupchak doesn’t try to get Nocioni away from Chicago. he is better than LUke walton and also plays way better defense. not to mention better shooter.

    I dont see the merit in giving a guy who at his best can only give you 11ppg. Nobody on the market would have given luke that kind of money. he is a 20-24 mil guy. We are giving out 30 million dollar contracts like free coupons while we didn’t want to give Derek Fisher that same amount of money.

    Bitch Kupcake sucks, Jerry Butt suck and Jim Butt sucks.[/quote]

    Lakers[quote comment="4569"]THIS was by far a dumber signing than Radmanovich last season. I do not see the merit of giving an 11ppg guy 30 mil for six years. I also dont we why MItch Kupchak doesn’t try to get Nocioni away from Chicago. he is better than LUke walton and also plays way better defense. not to mention better shooter.

    I dont see the merit in giving a guy who at his best can only give you 11ppg. Nobody on the market would have given luke that kind of money. he is a 20-24 mil guy. We are giving out 30 million dollar contracts like free coupons while we didn’t want to give Derek Fisher that same amount of money.

    Bitch Kupcake sucks, Jerry Butt suck and Jim Butt sucks.[/quote]
    305, I’m with you bro, you definitely get a RC star for that post!!!!

    Lakers305, I’m with you bro, you get a RC star for that post!!!![/quote]
    RC you are a f u cking asshole, what a homo, “You get a RC star for that post” Since when are you the authority on the Lakers. Next time i like a post, i am going to say you get a Sureno Star for that. Of course i would never do that becuase i am not a cum cuzzler like you. Get a life.

  • mfoznot

    Luke is fine for now, but we definitely shouldn’t settle for anything but the best. My loyalty runs with the Lakers and their winning every game every year. If that means trading Luke, Kobe, fucking Jesus and invading another country under false pretenses so be it. Winning is the key. Let’s win again and see some shit!

  • gcdeen

    Has anyone heard anything more on Papaloukas? I think he’s the real deal and could help us a lot at point guard. I’ve been researching him a little and it looks like his team lost in the 2007 Euroleague finals and maybe that’s why he wants out. The guy has great court vision, i’d say up there w/ Nash or Kidd w/ his assists. Last I heard was we offered about $3m/ year.

  • J-Cool

    RC You Saying We Get JO For Odom And Bynum? That Is A Bad Move But I Say We Go After Gasol Or KG.

  • J-Cool

    But With The KG Thing You Think Kevin McHale Want To Help The Lakers? Absolutely Not He Is A Celtic That Still Hates The Lakers And Will Always Hates The Lakers!!!

  • BringDFishBack

    [quote comment="4619"]Punkjones and 2k8kb24, the three of us are on the SAME page!!!! We want the lakers to get their asses in gear and get this team to Kobe’s standards, not Jerry Buss post 2004 standards thus far. Kobe’s standards is championship standards, NOTHING else damn it.

    So Punkjones, I’m with you, the hell with KG, let’s focus NOW and get the JO deal done NOW, JO can hold his own. If not JO, then mitch earn your dough and be creative and get Gasol. Mitch, why don’t you call non-working Jerry West and ask him what it would take, have you thought of that yet? The bottom line is get JO or Pau Gasol THIS WEEK, not later in the summer when both JO and Pau Gasol are GONE, and KG is locked up by Mchale in his prison.

    So the Buss family, get done with your 3 year vacation and do a trade. None of us today care, except the few marshmallow laker fans, about the luke “nothing” walton re-signing, we want a REAL acquisition which you haven’t made in 3 years.

    Get off the toilet Buss family, you guys haven’t done anything in 3 years including re-signing and overpaying Luke Walton today!!!!![/quote]

    well we cant be the champions every year, so you can just say “get this team to championship standards”, its not that easy. And your saying build the team completely one exactly what kobe wants, im sorry but last i check kobe isnt the gm and that would be mitch’s job. And as much as we all hate him, he is doing a way better job than kobe could do any day. And how would west know what they want for gasol, he is no longer part of the grizzles organization.

    And if you want to call walton nothing, i’d really love to see you get your arse out there and play. Also, first you say get done with your 3 day vacation, then get off teh toilet…so that makes no sense. Also, your last sentence makes zero sense as well. You say they have not done anything in the last 3 years, but then follow that up by something they did. You confuse me.

  • DeepFrost

    [quote comment="4627"]But With The KG Thing You Think Kevin McHale Want To Help The Lakers? Absolutely Not He Is A Celtic That Still Hates The Lakers And Will Always Hates The Lakers!!![/quote]

    hell yeah!.. one dumbass mo-fo Celtic beeotch…

  • RC

    [quote comment="4626"]RC You Saying We Get JO For Odom And Bynum? That Is A Bad Move But I Say We Go After Gasol Or KG.[/quote]

    Yes we trade odom and bynum and we get JO, that is a steal for the Lakers. WHy because Odom is always going to be passive and inconsistent, that is who he is and Bynum in his 15th season will still be a project, no better than Olowankid formerly of the Clippers. So get rid of these bums NOW and get JO, JO is consistent and is an all star, and he is in his PRIME now, same age as Kobe.

  • RC

    [quote comment="4627"]But With The KG Thing You Think Kevin McHale Want To Help The Lakers? Absolutely Not He Is A Celtic That Still Hates The Lakers And Will Always Hates The Lakers!!![/quote]

    Kevin McHale HATES the Lakers more than some of these marshmallow fans like Luke “SOFTIE” Walton. McHale will NEVER trade KG to the Lakers, wishful thinking. Kevin will always say hold on to the Buss family and ask for more, there will NEVER be anything we could give “Sota” except if we gave Kobe to get KG, so all of you fans that think KG is coming to the Lakers for next season, FORGET ABOUT IT, it will not happen, NOT A 0.0000000001% chance.

  • J-Cool

    But He Is Injury Prone Right RC? I Don’t Know The Only Thing With Him Is His Injury

  • DeepFrost

    RC man go paint ur self in green then go to the Celtics arena and jack off in there and GET UR GARBAGE OUT OF THIS WEBSITE…

    You ain’t breakin’ our hopes, be easy…

    We (most of us) don’t give a FUCK about what you say, so SHOO!..

  • http://Lakers.com Ed24

    Please give me some new fucken news. This shit is boring. Hasn’t anything new happened that is worth mentioning. Give me new fucken news.

  • RC

    I would say JO has had the injury bug a little, but I believe if you put JO with his friend Kobe, they will play through anything. JO will raise his game than he has showed, because he doesn’t have to be the #1 guy, Kobe is Batman and JO will be robin. I think JO will be a GREAT robin, unlike Odom which has been a below average robin, you with me BRO!!!!!!

  • http://Lakers.com Ed24

    Guys I have new news. The Lakers are trying to sign Steve Blake right now. The Lakers will use the MLE to sign Blake. I got my information from LA TIMES.

  • BringDFishBack

    RC, could you PLEASE make up another name for luke and type luke “insert name here” walton one more time? Im dont think you have done it enough yet. And call him names all you want he’s waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than your ass. Why dont you get your ass out there and play? huh? R “I suck” C, R “I can play” C, R “I suck but make fun of people to make my self feel better” C.

  • k0be da 1 andonly

    Look AT LUKES PICTURE HE’S SAYIN BALLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNN!!!!!!

    LOL

  • BringDFishBack

    O fuck we gonna give 5 mil to steve blake? what the hell what has he proved?

  • RC

    Don’t be confused Fisher, the lakers have not done anything in 3 years, what do you need to understand further about that. The lakers front office sucks and Kobe is the leader/ruler of the lakers that exposed them and they are working for the first time (on the phones a-hole, for the first time in 3 years).

    The problem is that they are all rusty (mitch, jerry and jim, all rusty) and have yet to do anything, so get it, they suck but Kobe’s leadership is helping to get them off the toilet like you should be doing.

    Without Kobe, they still would be under the long term plan, but we true laker fans will BOYCOTT if they don’t deliver under Kobe’s agenda. Get it fisher (and cares about fisher, stay in Utah, we don’t want you!!!)

  • RC

    [quote comment="4644"]O fuck we gonna give 5 mil to steve blake? what the hell what has he proved?[/quote]

    Ok Fisher, you get a RC star for this post, Steve Blake is more soft and weaker than Luke Walton, the lakers front office just sucks. I’m going to say it, go ahead Kobe opt out, sit out a whole year, get your rest and come back to another team and I will support whatever team you go to. Luke Walton and now Steve Blake to $5 million each, Kobe knows he has no chance with two soft bench players that they will start!!!!!

    Kobe just said it again, jerry buss you IDIOT!!!!!!!!!

  • punkjones

    Sure, JO has had injuries but it’s not like Lamar hasn’t. He’s been hit hard two out of the last three years, wasn’t a great fit to begin with, and is getting his second labrum surgery on his shooting arm. There I go again. I’ve got to shut the hell up.

    All I can say is that I firmly believe JO is for real, has stats, consistency and All Star status to prove it, and LO does not. LO might be great by the way in the east. He was before on Miami, his best year as a pro. I think he’d be a good fit on Indy. But not here.

    JO has the right fire, the right temperment to play with Kobe. LO doesn’t, as RC said, the guy is very passive. He plays his A game once in every few. He defers too much. JO will bring it every game he is here. That has never been a knock on JO. He has always been considered a hard worker and an achiever. What is he now -6 time All Star to prove it? People calling him overrated are simply hating. 20 and 10 year in and out is something we wished for Odom but it hasn’t happened here and doesn’t look like it ever will.

    Not sure it’s true or not but on Clublakers a guy said he saw him in OC, he asked him about Lakers and LO said F-the Lakers. Just unsubstantiated rumor at this point but if true it really is time for him to go. I was really bummed to hear what happened to his son last year and still am. But it just hasn’t worked out here. If you haven’t noticed this guy’s got some really rotten luck.

  • gcdeen

    F Steve Blake, I want Papaloukas. This guy almost single handedly beat the US team. He dished out 13 assists against the US and even Elton Brand was saying that he was having “flashbacks of Papaloukas”. C’mon, Steve Blake???? Let’s be real here! Dude’s sorry! I say it’s Mo Williams or Papaloukas only. Mo wants too much money though. There are no other PG’s out there. Not for what we have to offer and who would want to play next to Kobe. As much as we’re all Laker fans, Kobe is hated throughout the league.

    Crittenton looks good and has potential, hopefully we’ll be able to bring him along for 2 to 3 years as a backup.

  • RC

    Luke Walton re-signing, the first of many mistakes upcoming for the 2007-08 season.

    Giving starter money to Luke Walton (a bench player).

  • rmeazy82

    I’m glad we got Luke back he is the only player on the team other than Kobe who actually knows our offense. 30 million is alot to pay him, but when he is healthy he is a big part of the team. Hopefully he is working on his game because we gonna need it next season, the way its looking Lukes gonna have to step his game up. RC why you baggin on Luke? Bang on Smush, Kwame, Bynum, Sasha, Cook, and Vlad. Stats don’t lie Luke did his thing, he wasn’t part of the problem.

  • RC

    Luke started for the 2006-07 but only produced BENCH player type statistics, thus luke walton SUCKS. I’ll say it again next, for closure on this topic:

    “Luke Walton re-signing, the first of many mistakes upcoming for the 2007-08 season.

    Giving starter money to Luke Walton (a bench player) is a MISTAKE, the first of many to come this off season!!!

  • NY Kobe Fan 8

    luke walton is such a fucken bum

    what a waste of money

    ship his ass to sacramento for my boy ron ron

    damn man wtf?

  • steve

    RC….did you get dropped on your head when you were little…?………

  • http://www.vivathegame.com VIVA THE GAME | Dating tips

    Signing Luke was a good move! He is the engine the moves the Laker when they need it most.

  • RC

    Laker fans, KG will not come to the Lakers. Listen to this, the lakers just signed Coby Karl (son of George Karl, Nuggets coach) to a free agent contract.

    Now that is a mistake waiting to happen. As soon as cancer Coby Karl gets lonely, he will call his father and give away all of the Lakers secrets, and the Nuggets will end up beating the Lakers in the regular season or the playoffs. The Lakers front office are the most stupid idiots (I agree Kobe) in the NBA. Hire George Karl’s little spy, his son, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

    And you KG fans think KG is coming to the lakers, not with this lakers front office, wishful thinking, PAY ATTENTION, they are idiots (and Kobe said it)!!!!!

  • shortdiezel

    LUKE HAS POTENTIAL BUT HE IS VERY VERY SOFT… HE NEEDS TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE.. LIFT SOME FREAKING WEIGHTS THIS SUMMER.. OR DRINK A RED BULL AND GROW SOME WINGS

  • RC

    [quote comment="4874"]LUKE HAS POTENTIAL BUT HE IS VERY VERY SOFT… HE NEEDS TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE.. LIFT SOME FREAKING WEIGHTS THIS SUMMER.. OR DRINK A RED BULL AND GROW SOME WINGS[/quote]

    I agree Luke is very soft and should only come off the bench, NEVER as a starter!!!!!

  • http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com Robert

    Signing Luke Walton was a very bad move, in my view. He is not soft; he plays hard and with a lot of heart, but he’s just not that good. He’s a bench player. He’s never been a good shooter, until this year, where he was pretty good. But that might not continue; he’s not a very good defender, and the Lakers struggle defensively, and he can be a chemistry problem. Here’s why: almost every time the Lakers win a game when Kobe doesn’t shoot much – either because they are double-teaming him or the other team plays no defense – Luke makes comments about how “that’s how we need to play if we’re going to do anything” – in other words, Kobe, the best offensive player in the game, should shoot only a few times each game, even if he’s getting single-teamed, and just pass to Luke and others so that they can take contested shots. What nonsense. It’s quite annoying, if you follow closely and hear those comments from Luke; he makes them quite frequently. I really think that Vlade Radmanovich gives you more if he gets the playing time; Phil gave him almost no consistent playing time this year. In the two or three games where he got a lot of minutes, he put up big numbers. Check the stats. He’s more athletic, bigger and a better shooter. The fact that they spent this much money on a bench-type, Luke Walton, to make him the staple at forward is a bad move. They read too much into the performance of the team this year when he was injured; Kwame and Lamar were also out many of those games. There’s also a lot of hype around Luke because of his pagan dad, who also criticizes Kobe a lot because his son is one of his teammates and he wants to give Kobe’s teammates more credit.

    Check out this important website, by the way: http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com my personal favorite. Critical website with free videos online. You shouldn’t use profanity, either; it’s a sin.