KG will not be in Arizona, Suns now looking to sign Hill

Here’s the latest from the AZ’s East Valley Tribune. They open the article by saying KG will NOT be in Arizona, and that the Suns have shifted their focus onto signing Grant Hill.

East Valley Tribune: Now that it is clear that Kevin Garnett will not be in Arizona, the Phoenix Suns are shifting their attention to trying to lure Grant Hill to the desert, the Arizona Republic is reporting.

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  • KOBEISABITCH

    G-HILL IS OVER THE HILL THAT LAME HE NEEDS TO RETIRE. HE WILL PROBABLY BE HURT BEFORE THE SEASON EVEN STARTS

  • http://Lakers.com Ed24

    FUCK THE SUNS. THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS WERENEVER GOING TO GET GARNETT THEY JUST WANTED TO FUCK UP OUR CHANCES. SON OF A BITCHES.

  • http://www.youtube.com/darkice18 darkice18

    we need to gett KG now!!

  • kb24

    mitch better be up at midnight making deals to players

  • DeepFrost

    damn… looks like we’re the only ones left… Mitch even you can do it now…)) so DO IT!!

  • LAKobe4Life

    The Timberwolves have no choice now, they have to trade KG. The Lakers are the only team that have the best offer on the table, so it looks like a pretty damn good chance that we’ll see Kevin Garnett in a Lakers uniform next season.

  • kb24

    golden state are after him now too

  • ericthaimyshoe

    Hopefully Golden State don’t package a deal around Brandan Wright for KG.

  • schnide

    i would say thats exactly what they’re doing

  • nyla

    Everyone wants to sign with the Suns. =( No one wants to come here now that they think Kobe wants out. I would have minded picking up Hill cause he’s a vet (we need those) and he can play when healthy, but I heard a couple weeks ago he wanted to go to the Suns. Looks like he’s on his way.

  • http://www.youtube.com/darkice18 darkice18

    KG to the LAkers is better than shaq-kobe duo….KG-kobe = more than 3 peat….

  • george_matar

    Hell yes come on kg now its time for u to come to the lakers boy

  • george_matar

    [quote comment="4137"]aka KObe FOr Pres Hell yes come on kg now its time for u to come to the lakers boy[/quote]

  • J-Cool

    How You Doing Nyla?

  • http://www.youtube.com/darkice18 darkice18
  • Nikko

    could this be true?? getting closer guys. Now I just don’t want to give up the Chinese Magic in the deal. Take #19 but no CMJ..hehe

  • lakerfan81

    It would be difficult for GS to package a deal around wright to get garnett. They can not use the 10M trade exception they got for Richardson directly. They would have to use it to trade for players then package those players to Minnesota. They can only use it sign players whose contracts add up to 9.9M. So they could not trade to get a large expiring contract such as Ratliff from Boston because it is more than 9.9M. There are some other big expiring contracts they could trade for such as Browns but the lakers are not going to help GS acquire KG. So if they wanted to get the expiring contracts that Minn wants, they would have to trade for a few smaller contracts. If they did this, they would then have to wait 60 days before they could trade them to Minnesota and hope that KG was still there. Alternatively they could just use the players they have now to make a trade. Unless they entirely gutted their team this would have to include either Foyle (8.1M, 4 yrs) or Harrington (7.6M, 3 yrs). Minnesota seemingly would not be wiling to take on either of those contracts. That makes GS making a move for Garnett difficult at best.

    Chicago could make a move for Garnett, but Minnesota would almost certainly require Noah, Thonas, Deng, filer. Then they would have do a sign and trade with either Nocioni or Brown. Brown makes much more sense because it would be a 1 yr contract which Minn could just buy out. Minnesota would probably ask for more but realistically that is all they could get. Chicago would probably rather get rid of Ben Gordan than Deng but Minnesota already has a Gordon type player in Foye. But this is unlikely because Paxsonn, though a good GM seems unwilling to take risks. Also neither Nocioni nor Brown are likely to agree with a sign and trade to Minnesota.

    Boston could theoretically make a move for Garnett as well. A package built around Jefferson and Ratliff’s expiring contract. Minnesota might be interested in this trade. I know they wanted the 5th pick but if they indeed plan on moving Garnett they will have to come to the realization that they are not going to get anything close to fair value. You just can’t get fair value when you trade a super star; look at the Shaq trade. This trade would leave Boston very thin at outside of KG, Pierce and Allen, but in the East they could probably win with playing just those 3 players. This trade would depend on two things. One, KG’s willingness to play in Boston. And Two, Boston’s pocketbook.

    The Lakers are offering a Package of Odom, Brown and Bynum. With this package Minnesota gets young talent in Bynum, 9.1M off the books after next season in Brown and 13M off the books in 09 with Odom. This obviously does not interest Minn very much but if they plan on moving him they will start to get desperate. This trade however, leaves the Lakers very thin upfront. They would have to depend on Mihm’s ability to play again, which is questionable. Gasol more than likely will play in Europe next season so he will not be on the team. The same goes for Sun (except he plays in the ABA). They could use the MLE to sign a player like Magloire which would add some depth to the front court. This however, still leaves the lakes without a PG. This trade would make the Lakers better but would it be enough to get pass the Spurs and/or the Suns? (more likely the “and” then the “or” since the lakers would probably have to get pass both in the playoffs)

    KG may however come to the realization that if he really wants to be traded that he will have to waive his trade kicker. This would make it easier for teams to match contracts. This would allow the Lakers to make a smaller package to acquire KG. Odom and Brown match salaries. But this trade leaves nothing for Minnesota, they would have the cap space in 09 but nothing else except future 1st round picks. In which case they may as well just keep KG and let him opt out after next season. The lakers could include Farmar/Crittenton in the package. This would be a little more enticing to Minnesota but it does not really work very well. Alternatively you could Offer Brown, Bynum, Farmar/Crittenton fillers, such as a sign and trade for walton. This gives Minnesota more but again leaves the lakers really thin. But we would have three players to build around instead of just two. But still no PG and really thin up front.

    Minnesota may just decide to sit on KG though until he opts out after next season. If he did this he would have to take a much smaller contract than the extension he would get if was traded, because there are not going to be any teams that will have 20M in cap space to offer him.

    If KG is traded I would say the lakes have a good chance of acquiring him. GS does as well but it would be difficult. Either GS or the Lakers could involve a third team which may make it a little easier for either to acquire KG.

    Maybe the Lakers should try to involve NY or Boston. Everyone one else is stepping all over them. Isiah Thomas seems to like to take other peoples bad contracts. First he did it with the Suns and then he did it with the blazers. Granted he got rid of a bad contract in Francis, but how are Randolph and Curry suppose to play together. Neither one can pass or hit an outside jumper and neither plays defense. Only one of them can post up at a time. Ainge is even worst. He now has a much older version of Peirce and Walker. Those two trades were brilliant for the other teams though. Portland got a very nice acquisition in Frye and got rid of the immature Randolph. Granted they took a bad contract on in Francis but its only three years long, so it comes off the books the same time Lafrentz’s does. This gives them plenty of money in three years to extend contracts and put quality players around a core of Oden, Aldridge, Roy and Frye. Seatle gets another young player to go with Durant and they got rid of a 32 yr old with a big contract. Other GM’s should take notes.

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  • DeepFrost

    BS…the only logical decision is LA

  • dANIEL

    i agree

  • http://kb24.com MO6

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  • http://www.lakerfreak.homestead.com lakerfreak

    do it mitch come on we need kg send them everyone but kobe give them the laker girls just get kg

  • kb24lightsout

    “No, all fantasy trades involving Kevin Garnett are now exhausted. He’s not coming.”

    “This time, the target is Grant Hill. “

  • kb24

    why is everybody want grant hill? he sucks and if your one of the people who say hes a veteran wit good leadership, why is it that he never got close to being in a championship game? he might of been good in his prime but he shud jss retire

  • cyrus

    lakerfan81,

    Great post.

  • magicbalala245

    let’s go mitch start making some moves his time is running out

  • kb24mvp

    sounds like the sun is close tosetting in phx.this great to listen to them being down theyre window of oppurtunoity is pretty much closed.and lakers r gonna get kg and theyre window of oppurtunity will be big for 5 yrs

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="4146"]It would be difficult for GS to package a deal around wright to get garnett. They can not use the 10M trade exception they got for Richardson directly. They would have to use it to trade for players then package those players to Minnesota. They can only use it sign players whose contracts add up to 9.9M. So they could not trade to get a large expiring contract such as Ratliff from Boston because it is more than 9.9M. There are some other big expiring contracts they could trade for such as Browns but the lakers are not going to help GS acquire KG. So if they wanted to get the expiring contracts that Minn wants, they would have to trade for a few smaller contracts. If they did this, they would then have to wait 60 days before they could trade them to Minnesota and hope that KG was still there. Alternatively they could just use the players they have now to make a trade. Unless they entirely gutted their team this would have to include either Foyle (8.1M, 4 yrs) or Harrington (7.6M, 3 yrs). Minnesota seemingly would not be wiling to take on either of those contracts. That makes GS making a move for Garnett difficult at best.

    Chicago could make a move for Garnett, but Minnesota would almost certainly require Noah, Thonas, Deng,

    filer. Then they would have do a sign and trade with either Nocioni or Brown. Brown makes much more sense because it would be a 1 yr contract which Minn could just buy out. Minnesota would probably ask for more but realistically that is all they could get. Chicago would probably rather get rid of Ben Gordan than Deng but Minnesota already has a Gordon type player in Foye. But this is unlikely because Paxsonn, though a good GM seems unwilling to take risks. Also neither Nocioni nor Brown are likely to agree with a sign and trade to Minnesota.

    Boston could theoretically make a move for Garnett as well. A package built around Jefferson and Ratliff’s expiring contract. Minnesota might be interested in this trade. I know they wanted the 5th pick but if they indeed plan on moving Garnett they will have to come to the realization that they are not going to get anything close to fair value. You just can’t get fair value when you trade a super star; look at the Shaq trade. This trade would leave Boston very thin at outside of KG, Pierce and Allen, but in the East they could probably win with playing just those 3 players. This trade would depend on two things. One, KG’s willingness to play in Boston. And Two, Boston’s pocketbook.

    The Lakers are offering a Package of Odom, Brown and Bynum. With this package Minnesota gets young talent in Bynum, 9.1M off the books after next season in Brown and 13M off the books in 09 with Odom. This obviously does not interest Minn very much but if they plan on moving him they will start to get desperate. This trade however, leaves the Lakers very thin upfront. They would have to depend on Mihm’s ability to play again, which is questionable. Gasol more than likely will play in Europe next season so he will not be on the team. The same goes for Sun (except he plays in the ABA). They could use the MLE to sign a player like Magloire which would add some depth to the front court. This however, still leaves the lakes without a PG. This trade would make the Lakers better but would it be enough to get pass the Spurs and/or the Suns? (more likely the “and” then the “or” since the lakers would probably have to get pass both in the playoffs)

    KG may however come to the realization that if he really wants to be traded that he will have to waive his trade kicker. This would make it easier for teams to match contracts. This would allow the Lakers to make a smaller package to acquire KG. Odom and Brown match salaries. But this trade leaves nothing for Minnesota, they would have the cap space in 09 but nothing else except future 1st round picks. In which case they may as well just keep KG and let him opt out after next season. The lakers could include Farmar/Crittenton in the package. This would be a little more enticing to Minnesota but it does not really work very well. Alternatively you could Offer Brown, Bynum, Farmar/Crittenton

    fillers, such as a sign and trade for walton. This gives Minnesota more but again leaves the lakers really thin. But we would have three players to build around instead of just two. But still no PG and really thin up front.

    Minnesota may just decide to sit on KG though until he opts out after next season. If he did this he would have to take a much smaller contract than the extension he would get if was traded, because there are not going to be any teams that will have 20M in cap space to offer him.

    If KG is traded I would say the lakes have a good chance of acquiring him. GS does as well but it would be difficult. Either GS or the Lakers could involve a third team which may make it a little easier for either to acquire KG.

    Maybe the Lakers should try to involve NY or Boston. Everyone one else is stepping all over them. Isiah Thomas seems to like to take other peoples bad contracts. First he did it with the Suns and then he did it with the blazers. Granted he got rid of a bad contract in Francis, but how are Randolph and Curry suppose to play together. Neither one can pass or hit an outside jumper and neither plays defense. Only one of them can post up at a time. Ainge is even worst. He now has a much older version of Peirce and Walker. Those two trades were brilliant for the other teams though. Portland got a very nice acquisition in Frye and got rid of the immature Randolph. Granted they took a bad contract on in Francis but its only three years long, so it comes off the books the same time Lafrentz’s does. This gives them plenty of money in three years to extend contracts and put quality players around a core of Oden, Aldridge, Roy and Frye. Seatle gets another young player to go with Durant and they got rid of a 32 yr old with a big contract. Other GM’s should take notes.[/quote]

    You’re hired :)

  • http://www.youtube.com/darkice18 darkice18

    i believe something will get done…

    honestly i rather have KB/JO/LO trio then KG/KB duo …LO would play great as a third option…we should do this…

    TRADE1: Bynum (potential all-star in the near future-perfect for a rebuildin team), Kwame (9 million is gone next year and great defender), Vlade (pacers needs a 3-point threat plus he’s young),Farmar (potential all-star PG in the future) FOR Jermaine O’neal

    TRADE2: Sign and trade Luke walton and next years number 1 pick FOR Artest

    SIGN: Mo Williams (16ppg, 6 assist), or Theodoros Papaloukas (Euro MVP), or both Steve Blake and Magloire FOR MLE

    HOPEFUL LINEUP:

    MLE/JAVARIS/YUE SUN
    KOBE/SASHA
    ARTEST/MO EVANS
    LO/RONNY/COOK
    JO/MIHM/MARC GASOL

    also we can sign a couple of vets like webber and hill…vets min….

    realistic???…..indiana might bite….and from what i read today KiNGS still wanna trade artest….

  • lakerfan81

    Darkice 18

    That trade does not work for a couple of Reason, well one really. Indiana is not going to take Vlade’s contract. You can however, offer them, Brown, Bynum, Cook or sasha and sign and trade Mckie. Indiana would then buy out Mckie’s contract. McKie would probably go for this its a free 2M dollars. You would be trading O’neal for Bynum and about 11 million in salary relief in a year. Not sure if they would go for this but they might. You could throw in crittenton/Farmar if you want to make a deal happen, but thats alot for JO. But you could take out Cook and put in one or the other. Crittenton might be enticing to Indiana since they are probably looking to get rid of Tinsley’s contract. Then you have to sign a FA PG.

    Also Williams is going to be offered between 7-9M a year, the lakers can not match that. You could go with Blake for a PG but I don’t think you could do both Blake and Magloire. However, you might be able to do both Blake and Mikki Moore. Also Gasol is not ready to play in the NBA he will be playing in europe for at least one more year. Sun also will not make the team. He will play internationally as well unless he is willing to play for the D-league.

    You can not trade for Artest either. Artest and Kobe would not play nice together. They are both too selfish. Artest wants to be the #1 option on a team and would not like playing next to Kobe. I would rather have Walton than Artest. Character counts almost as much as talent. If Mihm can play again (hopefully, you could start LO at SF and Mihm at center. Then during games you can move JO to center and LO to PF for a quicker lineup to create match up problems. I think that team could compete.

  • Nikko

    NBA as a league blows! Why make trades soo hard? And I get rid of the cap, if the owners want to spend the cash, I say let them! Sick and tired seeing sorry teams like Atlanta and Milwakee get high picks and ruining these players, cause their clubhouses don’t know what’s going on, or not committed. Stop rewarding the weak and instead punish them! Make trades easier and either raise the cap room or get rid of it. NBA needs to follow NFL’s path and get better. When NFL first started, no one was interested in it, but the league made things interesting and look at ‘em now.

    someone mentioned to include everyone and the laker girls to get Garnett..can we include Jeannie Buss with that package, too? McHale will for sure go for that..come on Phil, it’s all about sacrifice! :)

  • lakerfan81

    The way the new CBA salary caps work is not perfect but it is better than not having a cap. You don’t want the situation in Baseball where one team can just buy all the best players. Or you get 250M contracts. That contract is bigger than some of the MLB teams are worth. There is a happy intermediate that needs to be worked out. One option is to raise the cap which they do every year. It went up by 8% last year. the way the cap is set up now severely punishes teams that overpay for players. If you offer a player too large of a contract, like PHX with the Marion contract. It is going to be very hard with the financial situation for them to replenish their bench. BUt since the CBA rules are relatively new there probably should be a way to get out from under huge contracts for a year or two. Also players should be able to adjust their contracts. This would allow players too take less money so their teams can acquire better players. If the Cap rules stay as they are it will be come better for teams to have 1 max contract (20M) and two or three mid level contracts (10M). the cap situation will work itself out in a few years with some minor adjustments. The biggest problem the NBA faces is that all the good teams are on the west. This is even truer now. In the 80′s most of the good teams were in the east but the lakers were in the west which always made for a good finals. But now… you saw the finals. One solution is to get rid of the lottery. This would allow the worst teams to get the top picks. Memphis and boston would have gotten the top two picks which would of put more talent in the east. Hollinger (I think) form ESPN had a really interesting Idea for the playoffs. In the playoffs you get rid of the conferences and just rank the teams based on record. This would have allowed PHX to have played San Antonio in the finals. Also the top 6 seeds form each conference get an automatic bid. then the rest of the teams play a double elimination tournament to get the last 4 play off spots. i think that tournament would be very fun to watch and would diffinitely boost TV ratings.