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L.A. Times: The Lakers can breathe easier. They are no longer paying Brian Grant. His contract finally expires tonight, but so does the one belonging to Luke Walton, who will be thrust into the open market at 9:01 p.m. while ushering in another phase of the Lakers’ off-season — and more questions — with the beginning of the free-agency period.

Will the Lakers retain Walton by perhaps tripling the $1.4 million he made last season? They hope so.

Will they re-sign Chris Mihm at a substantial pay cut? It’s a wait-and-see.

Whom will they sign with their mid-level exception? Denver point guard Steve Blake, Milwaukee point guard Mo Williams, Orlando forward Grant Hill and Miami sharpshooter Jason Kapono are all possibilities.

Although the Lakers just drafted a young point guard for a second consecutive season, they’re in the market for one with more experience than Javaris Crittenton, who played one season at Georgia Tech.

“I think that remains a position we need to pursue,” General Manager Mitch Kupchak said Friday. “Jordan Farmar may end up being that player, but we do feel that another player in the backcourt, a veteran player, would be a good fit.”

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  • lakersforlife77

    I don’t see Grant Hill signing with us unless we bank a big time impact player like gasol oneal or garnett. I would like to see mo williams signed if we can’t get papaloukas.

  • MO6

    I want Papaloukus and i also want Gerrald Wallace that way we could move Lamar to the Power Forward. Grant Hill is to old to be effective. And i agree with u lakersforlife77 if we dont get some one like KG, Gasol nobody would want to sign with us. What about this trade for KG it helps all 3 teams the Wolves get young talent and so do the Celtics and of course we get KG. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=261~2777~2367~2761~2389~2748~1998~617~1016~2421&teams=13~2~16~16~16~2~16~16~16~2

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="3986"]I want Papaloukus and i also want Gerrald Wallace that way we could move Lamar to the Power Forward. Grant Hill is to old to be effective.[/quote]

    I would love to have Gerald Wallace as well but he might ask for more money than we could offer with our mle, and if we sign papaloukas then we definitely can’t get wallace

  • MO6

    ya thats true id rather have Papaulakus though.

  • ryguy2303

    gerald wallace would be tight in a lakers uni. hes so under rated but, it wouldnt help us keep kobe. we still need a superstar

  • Lakers305

    what difference does it make, when Bitch Kupcake went and Guaranteed Kwame Brown’s 9 million dollar contract?? and he also signed Brian Cook to a guaranteed contract??

  • MO6
  • DYNASTY

    idont like that papaloukas guy i think he’s a dud!

  • ryguy2303

    [quote comment="3992"]what do yall think about this trade http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=261~2777~2367~2761~2389~2748~1998~617~1016~2421&teams=13~2~16~16~16~2~16~16~16~2/quote
    i think we’d be under the minimum numbers of players on a roster…it cant be kobe and kg vs spurs…although itd be nice.

  • MO6
  • lakerfan81

    Geral wallace and Mo williams will probably ask too much money and gerald wallace does not fit a need. We do not need more scoring we need defense and he is not a good defender. Papaloukas is actually the real deal. He is considered my many (all) to be the best player in euroleague which is only 1 (big) step below the NBA. But he is a pick and roll PG which does not fit the triangle. Plus as far as I can tell we are not in the running to acquire him. Also I don’t think it goes against the MLE to sign veterans to the veteran minimum. Correct me if I am wrong I would like to know.

  • J-Cool

    Papaloukus Is 30 Years I Not Sure He Can Be The Answer For The Lakers.

  • mitch_kupchak

    My first priority is to sign Big Papa. Next i will get a all star forward for bynum. Bynum and Kobe will not play together. i guarantee one will go before training camp.

  • MO6
  • J-Cool

    I Mean Papaloukus Is 30 Years Old And He Might Not Be The Answer For The Lakers.

  • ryguy2303

    @lakerfan81 “he is not a good defender. ”
    he was 5th in the league in steals (2.0 a game) and averaged about 1 block a game. besides kobe and odom, i odnt know anyone else on the lakers who might have done that

  • mitch_kupchak

    [quote comment="4002"]so what do yall think about this trade it is better then the 1st one http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~617~193~261~94~2776~3016&teams=30~16~16~30~13~16~16~16/quote

    how does that make charlotte better?

  • magicbalala245

    YO GUYS CHECK OVA HERE THIS SHIT WOULD WORKOUT guys i say this trade it helps every1 out in this trade and that’s for a fact
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1007~2797~981~2748~617~193~261~353&teams=16~16~16~1~1~1~13~13

  • kb24
  • rmeazy82

    are you guys serious? You would rather have populakis than mo williams? Mo can play defense, score, and pass and he is younger. I doubt that he will ask for big money like that to the point where we cant make a play on him. populakis is good, either way its an upgrade from smush so i guess we will see what develops.

  • MO6

    Ya i like urs better magicbalala245. did yall know KG was a Lakers fan growing up “Growing up in South Carolina, he was a fan of the Los Angeles Lakers” so he might want to come to LA and play for his favorite team.

  • MO6

    meazy82 its good but Charlotte waived Brevin Knight already.

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="4007"]YO GUYS CHECK OVA HERE THIS SHIT WOULD WORKOUT guys i say this trade it helps every1 out in this trade and that’s for a fact
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1007~2797~981~2748~617~193~261~353&teams=16~16~16~1~1~1~13~13/quote

    How does that help the Atlanta Hawks. Joe Johnson is their franchise player, and they aren’t getting a player of that caliber back

  • DYNASTY

    mo williams should get our MLE..IMO!

  • Rpoc

    A base needs to be established first. A new core whether through a JO/Gasol/KG Trade.

    Skipping KG.

    Best case with Gasol because his contract is less than JO.

    Gasol: Kwame – Bynum – Farmar – Future 1st rounder for Gasol
    MLE: Papaloukas

    C: Gasol/Mihm/Gasol 2
    PF: Lamar/Turiaf/Cook
    SF: Walton/Rad
    SG: Kobe/Evans/Sasha
    PG: Papaloukas/Javaris/Sun

    Bending over for the Pacers: Lamar – Bynum – Farmar for JO
    MLE: Papaloukas

    C: Kwame/Mihm/Gasol 2
    PF: JO/Turiaf/Cook
    SF: Walton/Vlad
    SG: Kobe/Evans/Sasha
    PG: Papaloukas/Javaris/Sun

    14 man roster for both scenarios. 13 if they send Sun overseas to develop. 1-2 spots available.

    It would of been really good if that Cook for Head deal happened. Especially when Kobe moves to SF during the game.

    Alas…. all PIPE with this management.

  • AJ

    [quote post="417"] YO GUYS CHECK OVA HERE THIS SHIT WOULD WORKOUT guys i say this trade it helps every1 out in this trade and that’s for a fact
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1007~2797~981~2748~617~193~261~353&teams=16~16~16~1~1~1~13~13

    How does that help the Atlanta Hawks. Joe Johnson is their franchise player, and they aren’t getting a player of that caliber back[/quote]

    YO LAKERSFORLIFE77 it will help atl cuase they lose scoring but at the same time they get a great center to help rebuild with odom and ricky davis that why it helps atl magicbalala245 is right it does help everbody

  • rmeazy82

    Why you guys giving up on Farmar in all these trades? He was actually a bright spot, he is gonna be a good one. If we give up Bynum and Odom thats alot as it is, farmar and turiaf shouldn’t be mentioned in any deals..

  • LAalltheway

    Come on guys, these trade scenarios are ridiculous. You can’t just plug in contracts to make them fit. The T-Wolves are very specific with what they want, and so are the other potential mediators.

  • Rpoc

    Javaris is a bigger guard and is already experienced in running the triangle from a young age. Phil’s type of player. Makes more sense. Farmar is like a mid-late first round pick to add to a deal.

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="4018"]Why you guys giving up on Farmar in all these trades? He was actually a bright spot, he is gonna be a good one. If we give up Bynum and Odom thats alot as it is, farmar and turiaf shouldn’t be mentioned in any deals..[/quote]

    Actually Farmar is probably our most favorable asset next to bynum. Sorry but if we want to get a all-star/perennial all-star they’re not just going to give them away to us. Farmar and Bynum are the two biggest trade pieces, even tho i like both of them how do you expect us to make changes if we are stubborn with farmar or bynum. But no way we trade both of them for jo, i really hope we don’t pursue jo he is overrated.

  • wise1

    trade kwame brown for ron artest that would be a improvement for the lakers

  • LAalltheway

    I like your Gasol trade though, Rpoc. We should push for him while we go for KG as a close second option.

  • rmeazy82

    LOL.. ABOUT FARMAR, I’MA DIE HARD UCLA FAN SO THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MY SELFISH SIDE SPEAKING OUT..

  • Rpoc

    [quote comment="4020"]Come on guys, these trade scenarios are ridiculous. You can’t just plug in contracts to make them fit. The T-Wolves are very specific with what they want, and so are the other potential mediators.[/quote]
    Mine works. Use ESPN trade checker to confirm.

  • lakertruth

    steve francis will get bought out lakers need to pick up him when he is a free agent.
    magic johnson will help him turn in to a great point guard.

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="4025"]trade kwame brown for ron artest that would be a improvement for the lakers[/quote]

    How does that help the Kings?

  • LAalltheway

    Actually Farmar is probably our most favorable asset next to bynum. Sorry but if we want to get a all-star/perennial all-star they’re not just going to give them away to us. Farmar and Bynum are the two biggest trade pieces, even tho i like both of them how do you expect us to make changes if we are stubborn with farmar or bynum. But no way we trade both of them for jo, i really hope we don’t pursue jo he is overrated.[/quote]

    Yeah, the fact that we like Farmar is the reason we may need to trade him. He’s tenacious and has potential. And since we’re most likely getting a veteran PG, Crittenton will do as the back up and will have time to develop. Good move by the Lakers picking him up, allowing us to use Farmar as a valuable trading piece.

  • LAalltheway

    Oops, there are supposed to be quotes around that first paragraph of my last post. I was responding to Lakerforlife77.

  • wise1

    i know it will help the lakers if they trade for ron artest but the funny thing the kings were the one who was intrested in kwame brown they suggested that they trade for ron artest

  • LAalltheway

    Rpoc: Yours wasn’t posted by the time I wrote that. I agreed with your Gasol trade right after. My fault.

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="4040"]i know it will help the lakers if they trade for ron artest but the funny thing the kings were the one who was intrested in kwame brown they suggested that they trade for ron artest[/quote]

    I would think a signed and traded luke walton and a filler with a pick would be more appealing to them.

    If they really want to trade Ron Artest, we would at the very least have to trade Kwame Brown and a couple future picks with cash

  • Rpoc

    [quote comment="4041"]Rpoc: Yours wasn’t posted by the time I wrote that. I agreed with your Gasol trade right after. My fault.[/quote]
    It’s all right, my fault too. I didn’t see your post either at the time agreeing to my Gasol proposal.

  • kb24

    wonder what kupchak’s email address is…maybe we can give him some ideas…lol

  • http://twitter.com/nugge7 The Nugget

    KeepWalton.com! :D

  • David

    Has anybody thought that if we get Garnett him and Kobe would take up about 85% of the payroll. That leaves 10 players to get the remaining 10 million left over. As good as they both are, we’re not gonna win with a bunch of D-league role players.

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="4071"]Has anybody thought that if we get Garnett him and Kobe would take up about 85% of the payroll. That leaves 10 players to get the remaining 10 million left over. As good as they both are, we’re not gonna win with a bunch of D-league role players.[/quote]

    Not true there is no set payroll, we would just be knee-deep in the luxury tax, something Jerry Buss will just have to deal with if he wants to win, and then we still have the mid-level exception to sign one or two good players and the minimum salary exception for reserves

  • DYNASTY

    we need gasol!

  • David

    [quote comment="4073"][quote comment="4071"]Has anybody thought that if we get Garnett him and Kobe would take up about 85% of the payroll. That leaves 10 players to get the remaining 10 million left over. As good as they both are, we’re not gonna win with a bunch of D-league role players.[/quote]

    Not true there is no set payroll, we would just be knee-deep in the luxury tax, something Jerry Buss will just have to deal with if he wants to win, and then we still have the mid-level exception to sign one or two good players and the minimum salary exception for reserves[/quote]

    What I meant to say was the salary cap. The salary cap is somewhere around 53 million I believe. That would mean we could only sign our existing players to extensions the veteran minimum (which probably no good players would take) and the MLE right?

  • lakersforlife77

    [quote comment="4075"][quote comment="4073"][quote comment="4071"]Has anybody thought that if we get Garnett him and Kobe would take up about 85% of the payroll. That leaves 10 players to get the remaining 10 million left over. As good as they both are, we’re not gonna win with a bunch of D-league role players.[/quote]

    Not true there is no set payroll, we would just be knee-deep in the luxury tax, something Jerry Buss will just have to deal with if he wants to win, and then we still have the mid-level exception to sign one or two good players and the minimum salary exception for reserves[/quote]

    What I meant to say was the salary cap. The salary cap is somewhere around 53 million I believe. That would mean we could only sign our existing players to extensions the veteran minimum (which probably no good players would take) and the MLE right?[/quote]

    Well I’m not an expert as far as how the salary cap works, but I know for certain you can still sign free agents outgoing from your team, and you don’t have to use the MLE on them. We aren’t going to be that high above the cap to where we have to sign our outgoing free agents to minimum salaries.

  • kgmvp

    Try to get pau or JO then sign Grant Hill

  • DeepFrost

    we’ll think about Pau when KG dream is DEAD 4 SURE…

    though Pau Kobe LO Billups sounds better…

    but still I hope we’ll get KG

  • mR.beaSt

    the only reason why we drafted Javaris was so that we could trade Farmar. plus, PJ loves big PGs. if we get JO or Gasol, we wouldn’t have any room for Walton on our rosterand the Lakers want to re-sign Mihm:
    JO – Kwame, Bynum, Radmanovich, Cook, ad Farmar

    C: Mihm/Gasol 2
    PF: JO/Ronnie/
    SF: Odom/Evans
    SG: Kobe/Sasha/Sun Yue
    PG: MLE/Javaris

    Gasol is listed as a F, not a C on NBA website:
    Gasol – Kwame, Bynum, Sasha

    C: Mihm/Gasol2
    PF: Gasol/Ronnie/Cook
    SF: Odom/Evans/Radmanovich
    SG: Kobe/Sun Yue
    PG: MLE/Farmar/Javaris
    room for trade package around Cook, Radman, and Farmar…

    no room for Walton

  • mR.beaSt

    Javaris said he could be molded, so do you think that PJ might want to train him to be a SF instead?

  • kb24

    if we jss got rid of brian grants HUGE contract, then why do we only have a MLE to use?? shouldnt we have more?

  • kb24
  • Bigboi

    i hope the lakers get Kg and mo williams so our lineup for next season is

    P.G: Mo/farmar/javaris
    S.G: Kobe/Evans/Sasha
    S.F: luke/Rad-man/sun-yue
    P.F: Garnett/turiaf/Cook
    C: Mihm/Gasol(Pau’s bro.)

  • LAL4LIFE

    [quote comment="4119"]i hope the lakers get Kg and mo williams so our lineup for next season is

    P.G: Mo/farmar/javaris
    S.G: Kobe/Evans/Sasha
    S.F: luke/Rad-man/sun-yue
    P.F: Garnett/turiaf/Cook
    C:

    Mihm/Gasol(Pau’s bro.)[/quote]

    I love that roster :D

  • Ricky

    the lakers need to make a trade for pau gasol. i think he will be a great fit for the lakers. garnett is obviously the most favored option, but lets talk trades without him because he is still a longshot from realistically acquiring. so the next 2 options are either jermaine o’neal or pau gasol. in my opinion, i would choose gasol because his stats are just as good as o’neals, he is younger (26, o’neal 28), less injury prone, and most importantly; gasol is much cheaper. the only time i would trade for o’neal is when indiana decides to lower their demand, but until then, i will support a deal for gasol.

    trade option #1 http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1016~996&teams=29~29~29~13

    trade option #2 http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=981~2748~1998~996&teams=29~29~29~13

    personally, i prefer trade option #1, but any deal is good as long as we keep kobe, lamar, turiaf, farmar, walton, and crittenton.

  • punkjones

    At this point I think the realism is:

    getgasol.com
    getjo.com

    Lakers shouldn’t wait forever on KG. I don’t see what’s changed in our package that they already scoffed at except we don’t even have the 19th pick anymore. Yeah I guess we could throw in Farmar instead but so what? They said no already. Move on. And I agree with David here – it would clean us out financially to do this and extend KG.

  • lakerfan81

    As I pointed out ona different website (I won’t go into the details that I went into there) Gasol most likely will not get traded. It does not make any sense for Memphis to trade their best player at this point. He would have to really push to get traded; probably go as far as saying he will sit out or retire. I made a (long) statement about who has a chance to get KG so I won’t go into the details here. Minnesota seems content to just let him opt out after next season. But McHale might try to pull something off before he gets fired though. One last hurrah on the way out to try to save his job. Thats what Ainge did when he traded for Allen. McHale really isn’t any better of a GM than Ainge is so who knows.

    you can not trade for JO right now however. One trading Odom and Bynum for JO is a pretty lateral move. JO may increase the interior defense a little bit, but he is injury prone and a little overrated. This trade does not put the Lakers at the elite level. No one else seems to be taking a legitimate interest into trading for JO. Supposedly the Nets are, which makes sense for them, but I don’t know how true that is. Jefferson’s agent is saying that they have gotten assurance from the nets that he is returning. Even if it is true Indiana does not seem interested in that trade at the moment. So I would hold to see what other deals become available before making a trade to Indiana.

    Some people are suggesting that the lakes sign free agents such as gerald wallace and Mo williams. Both of them will ask for too much money. Mo Williams will be getting around 8-9M and Wallace will likely get a much larger contract. Charlotte is 10M under the salary cap still so they have money to offer Wallace. I think one of the reason they traded for Richardson was for insurance in case Wallace was not resigned. And of course Billups and Lewis are just ridiculous suggestions. So here is a list of FA we have a legitimate chance of acquiring. just the ones that would fit a need.

    Steve Blake: Probably the best FA PG that would be available at a price we can offer. he is probably looking for 4-5M deal. Signing him would take up most if not all of our MLE.

    Varejau: probably will get offered a little more than the MLE. Plus he is a similar player to turiaf who is cheaper.

    Hill: seems intent on signing with the suns, Detroit or the spurs. But would be a nice addition if he would take about 1/2 of the MLE.

    Kapono: he would probably like to play in LA. But he doesn’t really fit a need. He is a 1 dimensional player. More likely to be used in a sign and trade by Miami.

    Papaloukas: Not sure if he fits the triangle offense. He is exoperienced though. not a shooter more of a pick and roll PG. Not sure if we are even considering him.

    Mikki Moore: If we trade for KG or JO he would make a nice addition to filling a spot in the front court. He more than likely will not require the full MLE. Would fit nicely if we traded for JO and kept Odom. That would give a lot of versatility to the line up if Mihm can play again. You could go with Odom at SF with JO at PF and MIhm at center with Moore coming off the bench. During a game you could go with a smaller quicker line up with JO at C and LO at PF.

    Pavlovich: Doesn’t really fit a need. A good defender thoough. Could improve the depth of the bench, particularly defensively. He would be good if we used Walton in a sign and trade. Not sure how much he is looking for. he si restricted and Cavs can match anything offered but would being paying twice that because of luxury tax.

    Magloire: would add depth to the front court if we traded for KG ir JO. Might require the full MLE, though I do not think he is worth it. I would rather have Moore.

    Posey: Doesn’t fit a need but he is available. A good wing defender and average shooter. Probably would require the full MLE.

    What FA are picked up depends on what trades are made. Blake seems like a logical fit but that would depend on how much Farmar has improved or if we pick up a PG in a trade. I like Farmar. I think he will be a solid PG in the NBA. The main reason being is he has a desire to improve and work at hhis game. A lot of players do not show this desire.

  • punkjones

    LF81 –
    I agree with you on all points but one. JO is not a lateral move by any means. You say JO is injury prone but we’re talking about LO who has missed a ton of games two out of the last three seasons playing the 4. Does that not tell you something about his body? He is more of a finesse player. We’re talking about two very different body types. LO is basically out of position – but he now sucks at the 3 as evidenced by 2/3 of a season of the failed Scottie Pippen experiment. JO is one big ass dude. He’s essentially a 7 footer, or whatever, 6 11. And he ain’t thin like Lamar, he’s strong. LO just got labrum surgery for the second time and he might have to do something about that MCL in his knee.

    JO is a legit 4. LO is not, but he’s playing there. Bynum is a project. JO and Kwame in the frontcourt together is a huge upgrade. It’s not about just comparing numbers with JO and LO. That might give the impression that there’s not much drop off with LO – it’s that LO does not have the D against bigs, LO does not EVER post up unless we’re playing the Suns, LO does not have any go to shot (except driving left and often missing the layups), LO has huge mental lapses, turnovers, only has competitive fire every other game at best, defers too much to Kobe, etc.

    We’ve seen this guy for three years and he DOES NOT FIT WITH KOBE. How can you believe this BS that JO is a lateral move? He’s a real Big who actualizes his talent and is consistent. Things that LO is and has not. I’m sick of the Lakers holding on to Bynum. He will not net you any trades right now. No one is as high on him as the Lakers and the Pacers. Give the guy up and make the deal.