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#41 MDI

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 12:33 PM

Inconceivable that is was just West's night and he couldn't be stopped? It happens. Look at Kobe in the 3rd quarter.


uh sorry you can't compare Kobe and West to the same level. Kobe will beat you in all ways possible. We didn't even make West do anything different such as putting the ball on the floor and doubling him on the move. All we did was let him iso up Pau in that island and take jumpers. Its a testament to how poor our help defense is, that Pau would rather see his man take long J's then stay close on him so when West drives it in, help defense can come over

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 01:16 PM

can't win em all... but we still, we should bounce back tonight against the warriors.
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#43 Scott P

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 02:20 PM

It's David West, not David Robinson or Jerry West. It's not THAT hard to cool him off or send him to the bench in foul trouble.

Not a valid argument. Who has the record for most points against the Lakers in the playoffs? Larry Bird? Michael Jordan? How about Sleepy Floyd. Every dog has his day, and when a talented (can we agree West is talented?) NBA scorer gets hot, sometimes there's nothing anyone can do except say nice shot.

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 02:25 PM

everyone shut up, it's one game, yes it hurt, but are we gonna make 300 posts everytime the lakers lose, it was a bad game and it happens, at least we're not in the slump the Celtics are in, we will bounce back and have the best record in the nba, come June you guys will all forget about this game, just let it go, it was a bad game, you can't put the blame on one person, it was a bad day as a team except for kobe, so stop putting all the blame on one or 2 people just let it go for [expletive]s sake.

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 02:26 PM

Not a valid argument. Who has the record for most points against the Lakers in the playoffs? Larry Bird? Michael Jordan? How about Sleepy Floyd. Every dog has his day, and when a talented (can we agree West is talented?) NBA scorer gets hot, sometimes there's nothing anyone can do except say nice shot.


The point isn't whether or not David West was having a career night, it's that Pau Gasol did not play good defense on him. At least 80% of West's shots were jumpshots where Pau didn't do much but hold his hands up and pray that West missed. Like MDI mentioned before, nearly every time West scored, it was on a Iso with Pau where he was given the jumpshot the whole entire game. Pau didn't force him to put the ball on the floor and dribble or anything of the like which is why West lit us up. It's not that West had some superhuman night, he just had open looks the ENTIRE game from the same spot because of lackluster defense from Pau Gasol.

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 02:31 PM

uh sorry you can't compare Kobe and West to the same level. Kobe will beat you in all ways possible. We didn't even make West do anything different such as putting the ball on the floor and doubling him on the move. All we did was let him iso up Pau in that island and take jumpers. Its a testament to how poor our help defense is, that Pau would rather see his man take long J's then stay close on him so when West drives it in, help defense can come over

You win. The Laker's suck. I'm ashamed to be a fan.

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 02:49 PM

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I respect the skills of CP3, but he is a little punk when he tries to be tough. When Fisher got the technical, Chris Paul was telling the ref to give Fish the T. Other times, he was running his mouth. He is now on my players that annoy me list.

Ya' know, Chris Paul is actually still my 4th favorite player in the game (1. Kobe, 2. Rudy, 3. LeCrab), but only when he plays against us, I absolutely hate him.

You know the way KG has a lot of his own little antics/cheap stuff/cheap tricks he gets away with? Well, Mr. Paul does as well, probably not to the extent of KG, especially on the dirtiness/cheap shot level, but nonetheless, enough to help him out a lot and impact the game severely. I really wish the refs would study more film specifically of some of these stars and pick up on the crap they get away with.

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 02:53 PM

The point isn't whether or not David West was having a career night, it's that Pau Gasol did not play good defense on him. At least 80% of West's shots were jumpshots where Pau didn't do much but hold his hands up and pray that West missed. Like MDI mentioned before, nearly every time West scored, it was on a Iso with Pau where he was given the jumpshot the whole entire game. Pau didn't force him to put the ball on the floor and dribble or anything of the like which is why West lit us up. It's not that West had some superhuman night, he just had open looks the ENTIRE game from the same spot because of lackluster defense from Pau Gasol.

David West had his best game of the season and Pau probably had his worst. There you go. In the 2 prior meetings, it was the other way around. The Hornets were coming off 2 road losses and were very hungry for this game and it showed for 48 minutes. If you look at the last 2 minutes of the first half, obviously we lacked that same hunger. 82 games. They played better for one of them. Big Deal. Meaningless.

You win. The Laker's suck. I'm ashamed to be a fan.

You should be, Scott P. To put David West and Kobe Bryant in the same sentence, even for one game, is shameful. I pity you.

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 03:00 PM

You win. The Laker's suck. I'm ashamed to be a fan.


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Posted January 07, 2009 - 03:03 PM

In the 2 prior meetings, it was the other way around.

I'm not sure about the first meeting of those two you're speaking of. West had 21 PTS, 12 REB on 9/19 FG. Gasol had 14 PTS, 6 REB on 6/12 FG.

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 03:11 PM

But the second game:
West: 5/15 6 REB - 13 PTS
Gasol: 8/10 7 REB - 20 PTS

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 03:16 PM

David West had his best game of the season and Pau probably had his worst. There you go. In the 2 prior meetings, it was the other way around. The Hornets were coming off 2 road losses and were very hungry for this game and it showed for 48 minutes. If you look at the last 2 minutes of the first half, obviously we lacked that same hunger. 82 games. They played better for one of them. Big Deal. Meaningless.


You should be, Scott P. To put David West and Kobe Bryant in the same sentence, even for one game, is shameful. I pity you.

Thank you for you pity. Appreciate it. Lot of whiny little haters on this board who puport to be fans.

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 03:25 PM

Thank you for you pity. Appreciate it. Lot of whiny little haters on this board who puport to be fans.


lol we're not allowed to criticize the supporting cast?

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 03:37 PM

it was like the Rudy T days when all we did was jack up 3s last nite



oh well.....its january....bounce back tonight :rock:
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Posted January 07, 2009 - 03:43 PM

lol we're not allowed to criticize the supporting cast?

Free country. But if you whine, you're a whiner not a supporter. Just saying.

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 03:45 PM

Free country. But if you whine, you're a whiner not a supporter. Just saying.


I'm not whining. I'm simply pointing out one of the biggest reasons for our loss last night and it was Pau Gasol's poor defense


just wanna throw this out there

this is what the 4th looked like for Kobe

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he had to pass it out in the perimeter with the lane clogged

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 03:45 PM

I'm not sure about the first meeting of those two you're speaking of. West had 21 PTS, 12 REB on 9/19 FG. Gasol had 14 PTS, 6 REB on 6/12 FG.

I wasn't looking at stats, just results. We jumped out to big leads in both games and a large part of it was because Pau Gasol was a tough match up for David West. This time, West played out of his mind and Pau had one of his worst games of the year. That's all I was saying. I think people have a tendency to rely too much on statistics. In the end it's scoreboard, baby!

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 04:06 PM

so for the hornets to beat us, we have to have 2+ pple injured, and have one of their top guys to have a performance he had only done once in every 2.5 years.. cp3 had a 30/15 night and the next highest guy was 12... ill take it

and for them to take almost twice as many free throws as us =p

Edited by PurpNGold, January 07, 2009 - 04:07 PM.


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Posted January 07, 2009 - 04:15 PM

I think people have a tendency to rely too much on statistics. In the end it's scoreboard, baby!

As much as people rely too heavily on overall record, sometimes.

Dallas, Phoenix and the Kings all know how that is.

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Posted January 07, 2009 - 04:25 PM

so for the hornets to beat us, we have to have 2+ pple injured, and have one of their top guys to have a performance he had only done once in every 2.5 years.. cp3 had a 30/15 night and the next highest guy was 12... ill take it

and for them to take almost twice as many free throws as us =p

That and the fact that they were treating it like a playoff game and we weren't. They will be up there at #2 in the Western Conference at the end of the regular season (boy was I wrong about the Rockets! .. at least so far). We will meet them in the WCF unless the Spurs knock them off. We will then proceed to eliminate them in 5 games.




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