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#1 LD2k

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Posted January 01, 2009 - 01:08 PM

Ray Allen says there is a lot of internal problems with Celtics: Seconds after a locker-room discussion between Kendrick Perkins and Tony Allen grew so animated that Ray Allen had to stand up and monitor the exchange, he said tiffs can be beneficial.

“We argue a lot,” said Ray Allen. “I’ve been on teams where guys don’t say two words to each other. You like each other, and everyone gets along, but if something on the floor goes wrong nobody says nothing. We’ve gotten into more arguments and more almost fistfights than any team I’ve been a part of. It shows the fierceness and competitiveness we have as a team.”


:lol: Glad they man up and complain all the time.

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Posted January 01, 2009 - 01:24 PM

I hope they fail.

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Posted January 01, 2009 - 01:43 PM

It also shows the enormous amount of ego on that team and the ticking time bomb that sits right under their own butts.

All its going to take is one of these "fierce / competitive" arguments to go one step too far and that team is done... and its coming.

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Posted January 01, 2009 - 01:55 PM

I hope someone in that team explodes and ruin the chemistry.

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Posted January 01, 2009 - 01:58 PM

My money's on KG or Pierce pushing someone just a bit too much one time.

#6 LD2k

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Posted January 01, 2009 - 02:20 PM

My money's on KG or Pierce pushing someone just a bit too much one time.

I think Pierce actually is the best one.

I think Ray or KG sets someone off there though. Just like on X-Mas day.

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Posted January 01, 2009 - 02:57 PM

dang..if Marbury goes there...:lol:
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Posted January 01, 2009 - 03:04 PM

Newsflash: The Lakers won 3 straight titles and made it to 4 straight finales with Kobe and Shaq clashing like crazy.
Gooden>> Lamar Odom. Mo Williams>> Ray Allen>> Gasol. Nene= Gasol.

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Posted January 01, 2009 - 05:47 PM

^ they also failed to accomplish everything that seemed possible for those two as a DUO
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Posted January 01, 2009 - 06:42 PM

I hope someone in that team explodes and ruin the chemistry.



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Posted January 01, 2009 - 06:49 PM

a mad player is a bad player. ;)

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Posted January 01, 2009 - 07:01 PM

^ they also failed to accomplish everything that seemed possible for those two as a DUO

? 4 straight NBA finales appearances is as good as it gets.

My point is internal conflict is not necessarily a bad thing. I wish we had something that could light a fire under Odom.
Gooden>> Lamar Odom. Mo Williams>> Ray Allen>> Gasol. Nene= Gasol.

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Posted January 01, 2009 - 07:03 PM

a mad player is a bad player. ;)

I'm sure Kobe and MJ would both beg to differ.
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Posted January 01, 2009 - 07:06 PM

In all honesty, it's nothing wrong with what they do. If anything it makes them closer as a group which means they'll be more deadly at the end of the year when their backs are against the wall.

I'd rather have a squad with a competitive bolt of fire that no one can put out, instead of one that pretends everything is peaches and cream.
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Posted January 02, 2009 - 12:07 AM

? 4 straight NBA finales appearances is as good as it gets.

My point is internal conflict is not necessarily a bad thing. I wish we had something that could light a fire under Odom.


odom gets a dub-sac on me if we're 08-09 champs ;)

Edited by androsays, January 02, 2009 - 12:07 AM.


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Posted January 02, 2009 - 01:18 AM

Lighting a fire and internal conflict are different things.

I truly think Shaq and Kobe knew the difference.

KG and Pierce have proven time and again that they don't know how to draw the line.

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Posted January 02, 2009 - 09:14 AM

we had internal conflicts too early in the season... Ariza/Vujacic, Odom/Phil... :unsure:


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Posted January 02, 2009 - 11:05 AM

we had internal conflicts too early in the season... Ariza/Vujacic, Odom/Phil... :unsure:

Not at all, actually:

1. Odom trusted the decision and we are on pace for the best record in the league.
2. Ariza/Sasha was solved after that game and their 1-2 chemistry has shown itself time and time again on the court.

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Posted January 02, 2009 - 03:34 PM

I can already imagine the headline KG Sends Paul Pierce to Hospital After Heated Battle, Loss To Wizards

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Posted January 02, 2009 - 04:48 PM

All bias aside, I think sometimes conflicts can be beneficial.

Like Fido says, you need to draw the line of course. But conflicts can keep the focus of the team in the right direction.

Some hardcore Laker fans I know (I'm not going to give any names), said they wished Kobe or someone else on the Lakers would step up and get in some peoples' face like KG does (not saying KG does it perfectly).

You always need someone on the team to kick your [expletive] into shape if you slack off or do something wrong.

But not make you cry like KG did to Big Baby haha.. That's crossing the line.

If you want a good example, the year the Clippers did good. It was the first year Cassell was there (his contract year of course). Cassell was a vocal leader. He would bark more commands from the sidelines than the coach would, and when he's on the floor all you can hear is him yelling at the players for what to do and what not to do. He brought the swagger to the team. It was as if the team was a bunch of young kids and Sam Cassell was brought in to be the chaperone.

And if you think getting my cellar dwellar bottom feeding Clippers from one of the worst teams to 1 game away from Conference Finals isn't a big deal, then that means some bias is clouding your view.

But there is a fine line between Leader and Dictator.

Edited by TheCalmInsanity, January 02, 2009 - 04:49 PM.

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