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#41 netlord

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Posted December 23, 2008 - 12:13 PM

He is playing badly right now, and we need him, I am confident he will come back to his normal play.
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Posted December 23, 2008 - 07:27 PM

Anyone paid any attention to the changes (subtle as they were) they made tonight?

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Posted December 23, 2008 - 07:52 PM

Bynum wasn't on the high block as much as he used to. Nice adjustment by the coaching staff.

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Posted December 24, 2008 - 02:53 AM

Feed him the ball... He's not Shaq where you can just pass the ball and watch him demolish the opposing frontline...
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Posted December 24, 2008 - 09:15 AM

Feed him the ball... He's not Shaq where you can just pass the ball and watch him demolish the opposing frontline...

And yet, it's still better for our offense than watching Kobe chuck 18 foot fadeaways all night.
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Posted December 24, 2008 - 09:45 AM

And yet, it's still better for our offense than watching Kobe chuck 18 foot fadeaways all night.


And the same time Bynum doesn't even demand a double team to warranting getting the ball. Those double teams that Kobe gets 90% of the time frees up other players. Until Bynum becomes a force offensively, he should just play defense which he has done in spurts in the last 2 games.

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Posted December 24, 2008 - 09:52 AM

Last year Bynum rec'd the ball in the post and initiated the offense many times. This year Pau is the one receiving the ball in the post and Bynum has to play off him. It is a transition that isn't easy for a young player but he is smart enough to learn and adjust. It just takes time. Despite the doubters he will get better. He just turned 21 and should be a senior in college.
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Posted December 24, 2008 - 12:33 PM

Never argued your points a t all GCMD, you were right on the money.

A big reason why Bynum played better offensively too is that he learned hwo to expend far less energy on defense. Gone was the belly to belly defense he was doing before. he finally stepped back a step and let some of the room give him the chance to defend without getting banged around or easily stepped around. Once that energy could be applied to offense, the kid was looking like the Bynum we know he can be.

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Posted December 24, 2008 - 01:03 PM

And the same time Bynum doesn't even demand a double team to warranting getting the ball. Those double teams that Kobe gets 90% of the time frees up other players. Until Bynum becomes a force offensively, he should just play defense which he has done in spurts in the last 2 games.


You feed him enough, teams will eventually collapse. It's just natural.

It's time to feed the interior. Kobe chucking fadeaways will not win us anything.
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Posted December 24, 2008 - 11:42 PM

Never argued your points a t all GCMD, you were right on the money.

A big reason why Bynum played better offensively too is that he learned hwo to expend far less energy on defense. Gone was the belly to belly defense he was doing before. he finally stepped back a step and let some of the room give him the chance to defend without getting banged around or easily stepped around. Once that energy could be applied to offense, the kid was looking like the Bynum we know he can be.



Which is why all of the early "dud" ballots were off base. He's got so much to learn and so much room to grow into his upside that it's scary sometimes. That said, it takes patience and an understanding of the game to weather some of the lulls in the Bynum storm.


I truly believe that with the addition of Pau, reincorporating the Bynum-Dimension from early last year puts us over the top, no tinkering necessary. I don't know of any team that can defend the triangle AND Pau's 1-on-1 post game AND Kobe's 1-on-1 game AND spoonfed Bynum AND get back to our shooters...that's just too much...

I don't see this team as currently constructed as one of those SA Spurs stalwart defensive teams but if they play above avg D in spurts with the offense clicking on ALL cylinders, they can blow the doors off any team in the league, Boston Celtics included.

Now, if we can just get the Laker starters to understand this, we will be set.

Edited by GCMD, December 24, 2008 - 11:44 PM.

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Posted December 24, 2008 - 11:55 PM

You feed him enough, teams will eventually collapse. It's just natural.

It's time to feed the interior. Kobe chucking fadeaways will not win us anything.



Remember that feeding the interior with Pau AND Bynum in there poses a unique set of problems...mainly, spacing, which is the whole kit-N-kaboodle as far as the triangle is concerned.

Force feed the ball into a clogged paint is end-game for us. You have to score from there or reset by kicking it out to the perimeter deep in the shotclock for a long J or generally bad shot. Pau isn't a dominant enough rebounder to make up for many misses and Bynum moves far out of position any time Pau sets up down low (which, he should, for spacing, but shouldn't because he's effectively neutralized at 10 feet and out).


With both in there, we need more north-south from the perimeter and have our bigs catch and finish more on the move. Save the post up for when Pau or Bynum is out and the lane is clear and the wings are full of shooters.


Not that I'm disagreeing. Inside-out is basketball 101. It's just that in the triangle, we have to maximize skillsets as much as strategy.

Bynum + Pau = movement and spacing, triangle circa Dec '07 (pre-Pau trade)
Bynum OR Pau = inside-out, triangle circa Feb-May '08 (post-Pau trade)

Edited by GCMD, December 24, 2008 - 11:58 PM.

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