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#41 Tobias Fünke

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Posted July 26, 2008 - 08:39 PM

I would do Chauncey and Rip, but not mcdeyes.
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Posted July 26, 2008 - 08:53 PM

Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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#43 L.A.K.E.R

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Posted July 26, 2008 - 09:08 PM

Too much to read :rock:

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Posted July 26, 2008 - 09:08 PM

I would do Chauncey and Rip, but not mcdeyes.


But they wouldn't.

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Posted July 26, 2008 - 09:36 PM

Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


This?

From what I read/skimmed this seems very, very far-fetched to me because you're relying on like 3 different players to take large pay cuts so we can miraculously sign LBJ or D-Wade and form the Dream Team.

Believe me, I would love a Dwayne Wade or a Lebron, but this scenario you've laid out just don't seem plausible to me.

Just my thoughts anyway...
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Posted July 26, 2008 - 09:42 PM

Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


Hate it that much, eh? Goin' Billy Madison on me?

Something to consider...
Stats against the Bostons Celtics in the Playoffs:
Name		 |MPG |FG% |3P% |PPG |RPG |APG|SPG|BLK|TOPG|
Rip Hamilton |39.5|52.9|36.4|22.0|3.2 |4.3|1.3|1.2|2.8 |
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Kobe Bryant  |42.8|40.5|32.1|25.7|4.7 |5.0|2.7|0.2|3.8 |
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LeBron James |43.4|35.5|23.1|26.7|6.4 |7.6|2.1|1.3|5.3 |
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Pau Gasol	|38.7|53.2|N/A |14.7|10.2|3.3|0.5|0.5|2.2 |


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Posted July 26, 2008 - 09:46 PM

This?

From what I read/skimmed this seems very, very far-fetched to me because you're relying on like 3 different players to take large pay cuts so we can miraculously sign LBJ or D-Wade and form the Dream Team.

No. I'm not.

Odom taking 10 million a year is a paycut? His first contract was 10.5 million a year over the average life of his contract. Huge paycut? No.

Bryant taking 16.3 million a year is on par with the same contract that Duncan and Gilbert Arenas took to help the team. Even if Bryant doesn't take a "pay cut", all he has to do is opt out and sign a new deal, even for the same value, and it cuts off 7-8 million dollars on the first year because of the way contracts progressively escalate over the years -- the first year is always significantly lower than the last years (what he'd be at in 2010 without a new deal).

There is no third guy getting a paycut. Bynum takes the max.

Believe me, I would love a Dwayne Wade or a Lebron, but this scenario you've laid out just don't seem plausible to me.

Just my thoughts anyway...

The biggest hitch is the resigning of Vujacic actually, which makes it impossible to have enough space for Dwyane Wade or LeBron without moving Walton, but does still make it possible for about 10 million which would land a Josh Smith/Emeka Okafor type player this year (still a very solid level of talent to add to Bynum/Farmar/Sasha core).

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Posted July 26, 2008 - 10:28 PM

Too much to read :rock:

Co-sign.
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Posted July 26, 2008 - 10:29 PM

I wish we could have gotten him.

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Posted July 27, 2008 - 03:49 AM

If we're looking at sign and trades for Odom, then why Deng when Smith or Igoudala haven't signed yet?

Both are better defenders than Deng, Smith would be the man in a Lakers uniform and the Hawks aren't seeming too interested in giving him the contract he wants.

We'd get the D at the SF position, they'd get a good player in Lamar and cap space next season.

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Posted July 27, 2008 - 05:34 AM

Could the LA Lakers be the "Western Conference powerhouse" poised to make a play for Smith?

Well, the Lakers could offer Lamar Odom to the Hawks and take back Smith and point guard Speedy Claxton, provided the deal Smith signs with Atlanta before being traded is enough to match salaries given his BYC status. The move would give the Lakers the defensive presence it lacked in the Finals against the Boston Celtics, and it would also provide the Hawks with a good player and an expiring contract in Odom valued at over $14 million.

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Posted July 27, 2008 - 05:49 AM

Could the LA Lakers be the "Western Conference powerhouse" poised to make a play for Smith?

Well, the Lakers could offer Lamar Odom to the Hawks and take back Smith and point guard Speedy Claxton, provided the deal Smith signs with Atlanta before being traded is enough to match salaries given his BYC status. The move would give the Lakers the defensive presence it lacked in the Finals against the Boston Celtics, and it would also provide the Hawks with a good player and an expiring contract in Odom valued at over $14 million.

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While it sounds good, I've read elsewhere that his shooting is even worse than LO's. Since we are bound to the Triangle offense and the only way it works is to space the floor with 3 pt. threats, I get the sense the benefit of improved D at 3 will be outweighed by a jammed up Triangle offense, one that will pretty much look like game 6 vs. Boston.

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Posted July 27, 2008 - 06:18 AM

Josh Smith has a rep of a big head who does not like to listen to his coach. Pass.

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Posted July 27, 2008 - 06:19 AM

While it sounds good, I've read elsewhere that his shooting is even worse than LO's. Since we are bound to the Triangle offense and the only way it works is to space the floor with 3 pt. threats, I get the sense the benefit of improved D at 3 will be outweighed by a jammed up Triangle offense, one that will pretty much look like game 6 vs. Boston.

His shooting is a concern to me, but, he is a great slasher (another very important factor in the triangle) and his defense creates offense.
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Posted July 27, 2008 - 07:17 AM

His shooting is a concern to me, but, he is a great slasher (another very important factor in the triangle) and his defense creates offense.


He cannot shoot at all though and that is a big knock on him. If he can't hit shots, then he's no good to us. He'd be a great player for a lot of teams, I just don't see him as having what we need right now. Damn, if only he had a better shot, he would be perfect for us.
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Posted July 27, 2008 - 08:50 AM

LO is a better fit, then smith in the triangle

so id pass.

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Posted July 27, 2008 - 10:05 AM

I undertsand what you guys are trying to say about the Josh Smith but you guys need to understand in any topic he's better then Odom. He will not only add athleticism but also youth onto the roster two things you really can never get enough of. I undertsand he can't shoot or what so ever but loooking into the future he is way better for our team and i didn't do my research on this so I can be wrong, but i doubt he costs as much as Odom too. And I mean it isn't Odom's job or if we get Smith, Smith's job with all the shooting,I mean the real blame is on Radmanavic. We paid him to shoot, and now he's an unconsist shooter who gets two fouls in the first 2 minutes of every game. We need to solve his problem too. I say we honestly do something to get a better backup. We are all just being greedy we can win with a lineup of oh Bynum, Gasol, Odom, Kobe, and Fisher, but it's what come off the bench and now with Ronny gone we need that big thing to help us off the bench.

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Posted July 27, 2008 - 10:23 AM

he is good for us
U guys act like odoms shot is any good either.

smith is 6 years younger then odom
improvement can occur

He's a much better slasher then LO

and with his defense
him and bynum will make a Hella good blocking tandem

I pull the trigger on this trade easily


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Posted July 27, 2008 - 01:35 PM

I wont us to get Artest, but if we can't get him I say go for Smith.
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Posted July 27, 2008 - 02:05 PM

Smith would be excellent for us, sure he can't shoot that well [it has improved since he's come into the league though so maybe it will get better in time], we don't need him to shoot, Radmanovic, Walton or Sasha or even Kobe can play the 3 when shooting is needed.

Smith is a solid defender, excellent shot blocker, and his defense creates fast break opportunities which he can finish with his exceptional athleticism.

Why are people hating on Josh? He is one of the top young players in the league, and i'm sure working with Kobe and Phil would improve his work ethic a lot.




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