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#1 West Coast

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 08:36 PM

I mean its got so bad that we cant even be confident with a 20 point lead anymore. I thought I had saw the worst of it in the finals last season, which was really bad, but it is happening way too much now. Our defense is becoming consistent but consistent at blowing leads.

Thoughts....

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 08:37 PM

Doesn't help when PJ is confident and put in the bench to start off the quarter. He should let the starters start the 4th and let the scrubs finish off the seoncd half.

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 09:04 PM

if u noticed, PJ lets teams go through dry spells and stuff. This guy does these things to make a bench. if the bench can learn to stop letting leads go and just keep the intensity, the Laker's future looks really bright. NEVER DOUBT THE ZEN MASTER (just like Vick "The Brick" says!) :clap:

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 09:11 PM

ahh guys let it go, its still a young team, I doubt they are gonna be having these every game let them learn

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 09:12 PM

Posted on another thread but more fitting here........

The problem is the bench mob relax when they come in and increase the lead by 14 or more. They take a breath, relax, get a bit sloppy, and the other team goes on a 10 or 12-0 run. This is not a serious problem. It is easily corrected, as it is mental and not physical. Phil needs to use a timeout or keep to the normal rotation as a work around until they "get it"

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 09:16 PM

Posted on another thread but more fitting here........

The problem is the bench mob relax when they come in and increase the lead by 14 or more. They take a breath, relax, get a bit sloppy, and the other team goes on a 10 or 12-0 run. This is not a serious problem. It is easily corrected, as it is mental and not physical. Phil needs to use a timeout or keep to the normal rotation as a work around until they "get it"

In other words, play down to their opponents level. Even the starters are notorious for that.

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 09:19 PM

Well, we can't get the big leads by playing down, we are only talking about the 4th quarter after getting up by 19 or 20.

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 09:21 PM

Well, we can't get the big leads by playing down, we are only talking about the 4th quarter after getting up by 19 or 20.

Okay, and I think this is a serious problem this has been a lasting problem for 2 years now. Even the older lakers teams with Kwame "lol" Brown blew leads when they were up big.

Edited by Base, December 05, 2008 - 09:22 PM.


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Posted December 05, 2008 - 09:28 PM

That was physical in years past IMHO. Basically our bench sucked! Our bench mob this year could make the playoffs in the East!!!!!!!

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 09:36 PM

Its just getting irritating. This season already, New Orleans. On the road, 51-30 at halftime. Final score 93-86, the Hornets got to within 3 that game. Indiana, 16 point lead I think, we lose by one. Tonight, 20 point lead, we win by 2.

And there have been many other times this season where we have a ten point lead in the second half, and we let the other team back in.

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 09:39 PM

To quote "The Who", The Kids are(will be) allright!

Better than giving up a 12-0 run WITHOUT the 20 point lead! {:^)

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 09:46 PM

To quote "The Who", The Kids are(will be) allright!

Better than giving up a 12-0 run WITHOUT the 20 point lead! {:^)



I had the same mindset as you, until what happened in the finals.

We all know what the feeling felt like when we let it slip away from us.

I get that feeling every time the Lakers blow a lead this year.

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Posted December 05, 2008 - 09:57 PM

Yeah, but I'm older than dirt and been a fan a long time. Blowing big leads is something Phoenix wishes they could do!!

I haven't felt this good about the Lakers since the first year of the threepeat.

We won't hit our stride til January(oops, I mean Dec 25th!), Our starters are still getting used to one another.

Edited by Mo Rings, December 05, 2008 - 10:02 PM.


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Posted December 06, 2008 - 12:52 AM

the fourth quarter collapse is the new third quarter collapse

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Posted December 06, 2008 - 12:55 AM

Doesn't help when PJ is confident and put in the bench to start off the quarter. He should let the starters start the 4th and let the scrubs finish off the seoncd half.

exactly i dont see why phil is doing it this early in the season..the starters should start the fourth imo and establish the momentum again and about the 8 to 6 min mark he should put in the bench...i guess he is trying to develop the bench but playing the bench at the start of the 4th is something you do later in the season when you want to rest your starters for playoff time.

Edited by wong63, December 06, 2008 - 12:58 AM.


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Posted December 06, 2008 - 01:00 AM

19 pt lead during the 4th.

*POOF*


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Posted December 06, 2008 - 04:29 AM

John Ireland said the whole Lakers team was acting like they lost the game.
Really quiet in the locker room.

Phil was planning on giving them a day off tomorrow before they play the Bucks on Sunday

That ain't gonna happen anymore. They got practice tomorrow.

Phil is a mastermind when it comes to readjusting a fixing problems from previous games.

It's just having thse 4th quarter breakdowns is getting real old and tired.


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Posted December 06, 2008 - 06:52 AM

lol relax a lil' bit... It's just a mental problem. PJ will fix it. The bench is just trying to make highlight plays, which leads to turnovers. Besides, every team makes scoring runs... I think we'll be fine :rolleyes:


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Posted December 06, 2008 - 09:54 AM

I like it....the way the players reacted in the lakers room....they should. We are also mad too....so the more they should be.




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Posted December 06, 2008 - 11:04 AM

We just don't have that killer instinct yet,
I thought we would of learned from that heartbreaking game from the finals.

Guess not...





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