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#1 LD2k

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Posted November 19, 2008 - 02:25 PM

Phil Jackson and Bryant have been forced recently by reporters to relive the past feuds with O’Neal in advance of another meeting with him Thursday night in Phoenix. The experience served Jackson and Bryant well, because they were totally cool in dealing with Ariza and Vujacic.

The discord arose after Ariza had the ball under the basket and passed it out to Vujacic on the wing. Rather than move it back to Ariza or another teammate, Vujacic just held it for a beat and then launched a 3-pointer out of the flow.

The shot missed badly, and Vujacic was soon called for a foul, leading to an automatic timeout with 8:37 left in the second quarter.

That’s when Ariza got in Vujacic’s face and stayed there as the players walked from the far corner of the court back toward the Lakers’ bench. Bryant shepherded Ariza toward the end of the bench and stood in his way while Ariza, who has a temper that his furtive demeanor belies, remained so keyed up that he just kept pacing.

Jackson benched both Ariza and Vujacic. As play was resuming, Jackson did something he never does: He left his usual area and walked to the end of the bench to address the matter directly with Ariza.


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Posted November 19, 2008 - 02:26 PM

I am uploading the video right now...
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Posted November 19, 2008 - 02:31 PM

Here is the video. Watch when Sasha shoots the three, look at Ariza. Then at the very end, Ariza and Sasha get into it...



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Posted November 19, 2008 - 02:31 PM

It's no big deal.
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Posted November 19, 2008 - 02:32 PM

It's no big deal.



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Posted November 19, 2008 - 02:35 PM

Good now Ariza will try to improve his J then, trying to outdo Sasha. Some competition is good.

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Posted November 19, 2008 - 02:45 PM

sasha deserves that and much more if you ask me

hes a great shooter but his poor decision making is getting annoying much like vlads and its about time someone showed some toughness and got in one of their faces about it
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Posted November 19, 2008 - 02:47 PM

Sasha has a history of being selfish and getting into arguments with other players and his teammates.

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Posted November 19, 2008 - 03:24 PM

As long as the disagreements are just that and players can forgive and forget thats cool.
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Posted November 19, 2008 - 03:25 PM

sasha deserves that and much more if you ask me

hes a great shooter but his poor decision making is getting annoying much like vlads and its about time someone showed some toughness and got in one of their faces about it

I agree. He's acting as if his poor play should be excused as if he's still trying to get back in shape and whatnot. That stage should be over by now.

Even despite all the great play and a league best record, we're missing something that we had last year. It's Sasha's energy.

He went from one of the best role players in the league to just another MF on the court and that ain't cool.
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Posted November 19, 2008 - 03:27 PM

Apologies if this is supposed to be in the Gameday thread ... but there didn't seem to be ANY explanation for the fight between Ariza and Sasha. They had to be separated by teammates ON the court.

From the little information i have about it ... Phil is pretty upset with Ariza about this.

If anyone can post clips of the altercation (I was at the game and missed it), and post further information on any punishments handed down, or quotes from players/coaches about the fight, let's put it in here.

Also, we can discuss who was in the wrong, and figure out what happened here as well.

I (as well as others) want to find out a little bit more about why and how this happened.








Also there are videos on youtube if you want to see it

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#12 SaintNicholasVanExel

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Posted November 19, 2008 - 03:41 PM



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Posted November 19, 2008 - 03:51 PM

this happens to every team. no big deal, i agree. it's just a shame it was caught on tape. competition among

team mates can be a good thing. keeps you motivated to improve and correct mistakes.


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Posted November 19, 2008 - 04:00 PM

If Sasha knows what's good for him he won't upset Trevor again. lol
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Posted November 19, 2008 - 06:01 PM

Since when did Trevor freakin' Ariza become good enough to critique ANYBODY???


Seriously.


Call Sasha out for the bad shot...though his sole purpose IS to shoot.

Call Sasha out for the foul...bad decision.


But do it in the right way. Take it to Kobe or fisher or Phil.


Ariza's not Sasha's daddy or mentor...nor does he have a right to get into ANYONE'S face.

If I were Sasha, I would have laughed in his face and dared him to do something about it.

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Posted November 19, 2008 - 06:12 PM

Water....bridge.

People are hoping we're having problems amongst the team, that's the only thing that could slow us down.

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Posted November 19, 2008 - 06:16 PM

Trevor is probably saying "Know your role jabroni" ahaha jk

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Posted November 19, 2008 - 06:21 PM

Since when did Trevor freakin' Ariza become good enough to critique ANYBODY???


Seriously.


Call Sasha out for the bad shot...though his sole purpose IS to shoot.

Call Sasha out for the foul...bad decision.


But do it in the right way. Take it to Kobe or fisher or Phil.


Ariza's not Sasha's daddy or mentor...nor does he have a right to get into ANYONE'S face.

If I were Sasha, I would have laughed in his face and dared him to do something about it.


ariza does have a right because while he may not be the most talented player he has played 100% everytime hes on the floor and has tried his best to run the offense and not make dumb decisions

sasha like vlad both make terrible decisions are both not doing what they are paid for which is shooting the ball and at least vlad with all those negatives is playing tough defense which is more than i can say for sasha right now

sasha looks lost, dumb, and terrible

its not like his role on the team changed or their are drastically different players around him

hes in the same role as last year therefore should be producing close to what he was last year

we are 3 weeks into the season rust, out of shape are not credible excuses anymore
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Posted November 19, 2008 - 06:29 PM

Since when did Trevor freakin' Ariza become good enough to critique ANYBODY???


Seriously.


Call Sasha out for the bad shot...though his sole purpose IS to shoot.

Call Sasha out for the foul...bad decision.


But do it in the right way. Take it to Kobe or fisher or Phil.


Ariza's not Sasha's daddy or mentor...nor does he have a right to get into ANYONE'S face.

If I were Sasha, I would have laughed in his face and dared him to do something about it.

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Posted November 19, 2008 - 07:40 PM

End of the season we will re-sign Ariza, trade Sasha, and rebuild.




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