You're really starting to make some idiotic comments and arguments. So now we are comparing the potential of Wes Johnson to Hayward? Hayward has always been better than Wes Johnson and I never said I believed in him like that I said those teams that offered him the deal did and I can't exactly blame them. It's hard to get talent in the NBA as a small market team like the Hornets and Jazz so overpaying for a 23 year old that has a good ceiling so they can be mid level seed teams is worth it. A team like the Lakers doing that isn't very smart IMO.
You're just wanting to argue lol. You are usually more on point than this. These are troll level arguments you are presenting. Wes Johnson in his 4th year just put up identical stats to his rookie year (below avg btw) when he had the biggest opportunity to showcase any improvement. Look at what Meeks, Marshall, Hill and Young did with their time and now you want to compare what I said about Wes to Hayward? Try again man.
All this stuff really Jody you're saying doesn't take away from the point of what I said.
Gordon Hayward has been slipping ever since his first year.
His field goal percentage has dropped from 49 to 41% across 4 seasons.
His shots increased, his efficiency dropped.
You believe in his ability to get better still.
If Hayward was a Laker you'd be the first person to state how his efficiency dropped, how he probably is who he is after 4 years into the league(just like Wesley Johnson) and is no longer a rookie, and on top of that you'd mention how he only averaged as many points as he did was because he got some of the most shots on a terrible Utah Jazz team that didn't have much else.
Why wouldn't you? Those are the exact same reasons you nitpicked at any Laker that did well this year, you referenced their time in the league, you referenced any drop off in efficiency they've had over their career, you talked about how their stats were inflated because they were the best player on a terrible team.
But all of this rational you use when discussing anything to do with the Lakers goes out the window with a player not on the Lakers. With Hayward you believe in his potential, believe he'll get better, understand why he got such an overpaid contract. Yet you were willing to go on a tirade if Nick Young got more than 3 million dollars this off-season. You said his high efficiency season was fake because he was the best player on a terrible team, you said he was nothing special and easily replaceable. You were talking about how Wes Johnson had been in the league 4 years(just as long as Hayward) and had yet to show improvement and is the guy he'll be for the rest of his career and wrote him off despite the fact that Wes' stats did in fact improve yearly and last year was his best year, he also shot a better percentage from the field and 3 than Hayward did but to you he was a bum cause his offense was 'inconsistent' So what's Hayward's?
Yet Gordon Hayward that has slipped every year is not so replaceable because it's hard to find 'such a talent' at small forward in a small market team. So the fact his FG% has dropped from 49 to 41, despite the fact when his role increased he didn't look that good, despite the fact he's been in the league 4 years and has seemingly only been getting less efficient, despite the fact his points are 'inflated' because he was the best player on a terrible team. All that goes out the window and you'll believe in his potential and his ability to get better while you don't for players on the Lakers this year that had better seasons and not worse.
That is what I'm pointing out quite frankly.
So like I said, must be the assists.
Edited by Majesty, August 13, 2014 - 10:53 AM.