I think it trickles down to the mentality.
It's what Farmar and Kobe said that makes sense.
Once you develop the mentality that "losing is ok" it's hard to come back from and it should never be something that enters your mind, as a team or as an organization.
The moment you say to yourself as a player, or as an organization "losing is ok" it's time to get out of the business.
because it trickles down to your whole team and at that point it doesn't matter who you bring in, it's gonna take a lot to flip that switch back because then your desire and the nights things don't go your way it becomes easier to pack it in because you once let yourself believe that losing is ok. As if it's something to look forward to.
You can't have that mentality and be a winning team. Cleveland is still recovering from that kind of mindset and there's a reason why OKC is a success but all these other 'tanking' teams are still bottom of the league.
Because OKC never acknowledged that 'losing was ok' they were just a bad team no matter how hard they tried and it took them three years of failure but not once did they actually set out on a quest to lose, they tried to win every night which is why they got better and better and better.
Lakers fans that ask for 'losses' don't believe in the rebuilding structure that OKC was forced to embrace. They want Number 1 draft pick, trade for a star and become a contender in 3 years. It doesn't work that way.
Instead of rooting for losses I feel we should all just acknowledge that we have a bad team, and even if we try our hardest, losses are going to happen and just hold on to the faith that no matter how long this goes on we will rebuild into a contender in time.
But it's holding on to that "FAST SOLUTION" mentality that can make fans say "TANK NOW BENEFIT LATER!!" "NEXT YEAR WHEN WE GET WIGGINS/PARKER/EXUM/EMBIID ITS OVER FOR THE WEST!!!"
The truth is, yes the more losses we have the further we fall in the lottery, but also the more losses we have the worse of a team we are, and the worse of a team we are the longer it's going to take to get back into contention.
That's the other side of the coin. IF we're gonna be the 4th worst team in the NBA it's going to happen because our team has that far to go, not because it was a well thought out plan. So I get fido's point completely.
Rooting for losses is pointless, the team is what it is.
You could root for your Lakers to win every night and their record would still be what it is now because of the team they have and the circumstances around their season. So I get completely why fido says what he does.
He's NOT saying that more losses doesn't put us closer to a draft pick that's going to help us and he's NOT saying that drafting someone like Wiggins/Embiid/Exum isn't good for our future.
He's saying that rooting for and praying for losses and relying on the draft pick we're going to get as such a savior that you forsake winning for the probability of drafting them is a pointless fantasy because the team is going to be where it is because of how it's built not because of how many losing seasons we get.
Fido can root for the Lakers as much as he wants and enjoy every win that they have and our record is still going to be what it is and he can look at draft prospects he likes or can hope for if we get in position to draft them, but at the same time he isn't rooting for us to get worse. He'd rather let the season play out and then judge from where we land while still supporting the team and not making a fool of himself by rooting for losses which are irrelevant to do because the team is going to win/lose of their own accord and it makes more sense if you're a "fan" to root for them. If they're a good team they'll win if they're a bad team they'll lose, rooting for against doesn't change that, so why do it and let it trickle down on an organization that would never think that way(and I think the frustration in the draft thread constantly over our wins reflect that they don't play that way either).
I think that's what fido feels about it anyway.
Edited by Majesty, March 28, 2014 - 02:14 AM.