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#4081 Massacre

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Posted August 19, 2014 - 12:30 PM

I'm agreeing with your original statement.

The market this summer was ridiculous. And it will be even more ridiculous next summer when we see a 20-30 million salary cap increase finalized.
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#4082 Majesty

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Posted August 19, 2014 - 12:48 PM


What? Why don't you read what I was posting before shooting it down. That was exactly my point that getting Gasol and Rondo was close to impossible with the 26m we may have in cap space and that both could be offered max deals or close to it.


We have more than 26 million free. The 26 million is just Hill, Nash and Lin's contracts expiring. We'll actually have about 30 mill freed up when all's said and done that off-season. And that's possible, and that's before the cap increase.

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Posted August 19, 2014 - 03:08 PM

hopefully there's no lockout with the next CBA

 

but seeing as to how brutal the last one was, there probably will be well into the season



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Posted August 19, 2014 - 03:47 PM

The Lakers will have about $36 million in committed salaries in 2015. Kobe, Young, Randle, Kelly, Davis (?). Cap is projected to be at least $66 million, so that's roughly $30 million available to them once they decline Hill's option and renounce Jeremy Lin and Carlos Boozer (or bring them back for cheaper deals).

2016 is where it happens and hopefully we still have flexibility by then. Kobe's $25 will be off the books and I can't imagine him coming back for the same deal. The cap should be anywhere from $85 million to $100 million and that's where a guy like KD opts out and scores big time, just like LeBron will be doing.

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Posted August 19, 2014 - 04:22 PM

A $100 mil cap would be unfair for big city teams

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Posted August 19, 2014 - 06:27 PM

A $100 mil cap would be unfair for big city teams

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Posted August 19, 2014 - 07:52 PM

If that's the case then the money the Lakers have conserved over the last few years and even this 2014 off-season would put them ahead of teams that threw out big contracts in anticipation of it. 


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Posted August 19, 2014 - 08:19 PM

If that's the case then the money the Lakers have conserved over the last few years and even this 2014 off-season would put them ahead of teams that threw out big contracts in anticipation of it. 

 

I don't follow that logic. As the cap rises, so do average salaries and so do set salaries such as max, mid level etc. Teams that have been signing players to long term deals now are locking in talent at today's prices meaning those contracts will be considered value contracts when the cap goes waaay up. Meanwhile the Lakers who are signing nobody long-term will be paying much higher prices for similiar talent in the future.



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Posted August 19, 2014 - 08:35 PM

I don't follow that logic. As the cap rises, so do average salaries and so do set salaries such as max, mid level etc. Teams that have been signing players to long term deals now are locking in talent at today's prices meaning those contracts will be considered value contracts when the cap goes waaay up. Meanwhile the Lakers who are signing nobody long-term will be paying much higher prices for similiar talent in the future.

 

 

It means the Lakers have more to spend. 


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Posted August 19, 2014 - 10:10 PM

We have more than 26 million free. The 26 million is just Hill, Nash and Lin's contracts expiring. We'll actually have about 30 mill freed up when all's said and done that off-season. And that's possible, and that's before the cap increase.

Kobe: 25M

Randle: 3.1M

Young: 5.2M

Kelly: 1.7M

8 x min. cap hold: 4M.

That's a combined 39M.

 

How are you getting to 30M in cap space before the cap increase?



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Posted August 19, 2014 - 11:19 PM

It means the Lakers have more to spend. 

They'll have less as their cap relates to teams that have already contracted players long term since they'll be spending more for each player. It's math.



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Posted August 19, 2014 - 11:30 PM

Aside from Melo and maybe Bosh, what other stars are signed past 2016 and 2017

If there is a new CBA within the next 2-3 years, there will be plenty of game changing stars to throw money at

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Posted Yesterday, 12:18 AM

Kobe: 25M

Randle: 3.1M

Young: 5.2M

Kelly: 1.7M

8 x min. cap hold: 4M.

That's a combined 39M.

 

How are you getting to 30M in cap space before the cap increase?



It's actually only 35 million taken up of the 68 available.  That means 33 million is freed and even if yopu dropped your 4 million with 8 min cap hold that's about 29 million if you did all that.  

And 29 million is enough to sign both Gasol and Rondo.  16 for Rondo sounds about his market value if 18 million is his 'max'.  And 12-13 million for Marc Gasol sounds about right as well.   Lakers would have enough to sign both too even with your cut. 


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Posted Yesterday, 01:06 AM



It's actually only 35 million taken up of the 68 available.  That means 33 million is freed and even if yopu dropped your 4 million with 8 min cap hold that's about 29 million if you did all that.  

And 29 million is enough to sign both Gasol and Rondo.  16 for Rondo sounds about his market value if 18 million is his 'max'.  And 12-13 million for Marc Gasol sounds about right as well.   Lakers would have enough to sign both too even with your cut. 

It's 39M as you have to include the cap holds when you offer someone a deal. Dont know where you get the 68M from. This year the cap is at 63.2 and while it's expected to rise, it's impossible to know how much. That said, IF we do see an increase in the salary cap to 68M you'd have 29M to offer, like you said.

 

One caveat: When possible payroll increase, so does the amount of money the players are seeking and i really think you are way off in your estimation of market value.



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Posted Yesterday, 01:37 AM

Byron Scott: Except for Kobe all starting positions are up for grabs 

Scott suggested he will face plenty of unanswered questions in training camp surrounding his depth chart.

“We got one Hall of Famer. Really, two. Steve Nash is another guy, but we have to see if Steve is going to be healthy,” Scott said, referring to Nash’s back issues that limited him last season to 15 games. “We’re obviously talking about Kobe Bryant. Other than that, all the other starting spots are up for grabs.”

 

The possibilities remain endless.

 

Does Scott rely on Nash’s experience point guard or on Jeremy Lin’s potential in both his play and providing Nash some reinforcements? Does Scott give Carlos Boozer a chance to have a bounce-back season from Chicago by starting at power forward, or give rookie Julius Randle an immediate chance to develop? Will Scott start the Lakers with a dosage of “Swaggy P,” or will he save Nick Young to back up either Xavier Henry or Wesley Johnson? Finally, how will Scott handle a bloated frontcourt that also includes Jordan Hill, Ed Davis, Ryan Kelly and Robert Sacre?

 

It appears as if Scott will spend plenty of the Lakers’ training camp beginning in late September seeking answers to these questions.

 

“You got to win the starting lineup job,” Scott said. “It’s not given to you. That’s the problem with a lot of people. You expect things to be given to you. You have to earn it. When we start training camp, they have to earn the right to start. It’s a privilege.”
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Posted Yesterday, 04:34 AM

Aside from Melo and maybe Bosh, what other stars are signed past 2016 and 2017

If there is a new CBA within the next 2-3 years, there will be plenty of game changing stars to throw money at

Not to mention another lockout?

 

Also is there a way to change the title of this thread now?

Maybe something like "ANY TOPIC OTHER THAN BYRON SCOTT"


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