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#3461 Clutch Factor

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Posted November 26, 2014 - 08:36 AM

I can understand the arguments about not going after an injury-prone Bledsoe, undersized PG in IT, or an often careless Stephenson. We'd be a mediocre team, and perhaps those players wouldn't be the best tradeable assets either.

 

But what if the Lakers strike out in the 2015 offseason? The plan's going to be 2016 then? And so forth?



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Posted November 26, 2014 - 09:55 AM

And what if they dont?
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Posted November 26, 2014 - 10:00 AM

And what if they do?

 

And what if they dont?



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Posted November 26, 2014 - 11:16 AM

If we strike out in 2015 FA wise , and then come up short again on the

superstar talent in 2016, I could see them finally going after alot of the B level talents.

 

There's no way they'd entertain a fourth down season straight feilding a bench squad as starters.  2013-14, 2014-15, 2015-16, 2016-17.

 

We'd at least need to have a competive Team before the 2016 offseason if we hope to land somebody big. I think 2015 will be key, we have to land an important piece to build on like Houton did with Harden. The superstars players will flock after.

 

Shaq came over for a potential Nick Van Exel , Eddie Jones and young Kobe Team up and of course become the next Laker great.


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Posted November 26, 2014 - 02:16 PM

Gotta remember the Lakers can gamble in 2015 agency because they know they'll have multi max space in e016 and Bird's on Kobe if he wished to return. They could sign a max player and re-sign Kobe via birds over the cap if they so chose and have a lot of space afterwards.

Its estimated they'll have room for 3 max contracts in 2016 so they'll probably gamble more in 2015 knowing they'll have space for the star regardless in 2016 so we'll see.

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Posted November 26, 2014 - 11:18 PM

I actually kind of like Bledsoe still
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Posted November 27, 2014 - 01:18 AM

Gotta remember the Lakers can gamble in 2015 agency because they know they'll have multi max space in e016 and Bird's on Kobe if he wished to return. They could sign a max player and re-sign Kobe via birds over the cap if they so chose and have a lot of space afterwards.

Its estimated they'll have room for 3 max contracts in 2016 so they'll probably gamble more in 2015 knowing they'll have space for the star regardless in 2016 so we'll see.

We need to add something next summer so we can present a good situation for the 2016 free agency class where we'll have a lot of cap space. Kobe's bird rights wont matter due to his 26.5M cap hold and quite honestly, given his latest deal and the way he's been playing/behaving lately i think his next deal should be at a bargain price. I'd much rather see him retire - or sign somewhere else - than to see Jeanie pay him 15-20 M and destroy our chances at a rebuild.

 

Add 20M worth of FAs next summer to go with a top 5 pick (hopefully) and the HOuston pick and then add two top-tier FAs in 2016 and then sign Kobe to whatever is left.



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Posted November 27, 2014 - 03:57 AM

We need to add something next summer so we can present a good situation for the 2016 free agency class where we'll have a lot of cap space. Kobe's bird rights wont matter due to his 26.5M cap hold and quite honestly, given his latest deal and the way he's been playing/behaving lately i think his next deal should be at a bargain price. I'd much rather see him retire - or sign somewhere else - than to see Jeanie pay him 15-20 M and destroy our chances at a rebuild.

 

Add 20M worth of FAs next summer to go with a top 5 pick (hopefully) and the HOuston pick and then add two top-tier FAs in 2016 and then sign Kobe to whatever is left.



They can go over the tax to pay Kobe as they have his birds, and given the cap will be significantly higher and they'll have even more room they could get Kobe back without undercutting him AFTER signing the 'max persons' and 'other roster spots'.   Has to be done after though.  And the Lakers would be hit with a big luxury tax bill but we could handle that. 

It's just about knowing when you play those cards and the Lakers aren't gonna throw their eggs into a basket like that unless they KNOW that they are putting together a championship team. 


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Posted November 27, 2014 - 05:07 AM



They can go over the tax to pay Kobe as they have his birds, and given the cap will be significantly higher and they'll have even more room they could get Kobe back without undercutting him AFTER signing the 'max persons' and 'other roster spots'.   Has to be done after though.  And the Lakers would be hit with a big luxury tax bill but we could handle that. 

It's just about knowing when you play those cards and the Lakers aren't gonna throw their eggs into a basket like that unless they KNOW that they are putting together a championship team. 

That's not how bird rights work. You have to factor in the cap holds.

 

Basically, in 16/17 we have 10M worth of salary comitted. But in order to use Kobe's Bird rights, we need to count in his cap-hold which is 26.5M, which means that we have 36.5M worth of salary comitted. Since that number is way higher than what he's actually going to get (i hope) his bird rights doesn't mean a whole lot.



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Posted November 27, 2014 - 10:13 AM



They can go over the tax to pay Kobe as they have his birds, and given the cap will be significantly higher and they'll have even more room they could get Kobe back without undercutting him AFTER signing the 'max persons' and 'other roster spots'. Has to be done after though. And the Lakers would be hit with a big luxury tax bill but we could handle that.

It's just about knowing when you play those cards and the Lakers aren't gonna throw their eggs into a basket like that unless they KNOW that they are putting together a championship team.

You really think Kobe will be back in two seasons. At what price? Because right now he is grossly overpaid.

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Posted November 27, 2014 - 11:50 AM

You really think Kobe will be back in two seasons. At what price? Because right now he is grossly overpaid.

They paid him that much because it shows other upcoming free agents that the Lakers will overpay you when you are at the very end of your career.


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Posted Yesterday, 06:31 PM

 

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Posted Yesterday, 10:29 PM

Offer him a max this summer, plain and simple. Make it a Parsons -type of deal that is annoying as hell for the Bulls.






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