Accountability and repercussions for one's actions is all I'm talking about.
And in a civilized nation, especially one that practices democratic principles, we use the law as a function to serve as accountability and repercussions.
Again, basics as in bridling your tongue. Not blurting out every thought that comes out of your perverted mind. Let's say I'm with a woman (spouse/mother/sister) and she is verbally assaulted in this manner. Who's to say what I'd do in that scenario? The key is striving to be Christ-like but I wouldn't judge any man if he decides to give dude a swift back-hand. If some racist dude is all in my family's face spouting off obscenities, then I have every right to defend myself and my family...PERIOD.
Basics is also being able to seize your temper. Again, you can't expect everyone on this planet to bite their tongue. What about people who suffer from mental disorders? Better yet, if you don't believe in mental disorders, what about people who suffer from neurological disorders? For example, one who suffers from Tourette Syndrome might shout obscenities at people when they have a tic (depending on their condition). You might argue that you would be able to make that distinction, but the fact is, not everyone can, and for this reason, it is our duty as human beings to keep the battles in an intellectual realm.
Showing a man kindness after they have been hateful toward you is the ultimate way to inflict a wound, tenfold times the strength of a fist to their face. The Chinese military strategist and general Sun Tzu said, "To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."
You can have your opinion as to where you draw the line in defending your family, but at the end of the day, regardless of our position or what we would do in a hypothetical situation, you cannot use physical force against someone who is simply exercising speech.
What are you expecting? That a police officer is going to come and arrest the guy that you just punched?
If I'm wrong for defending myself and my family then God will judge me. This isn't about compromise and neither is it about convenience.
This argument is used too often. You see extremists from all faiths use it. I am not calling you an extremist, but I find it ironic that we bash an extremist who uses this very logic to justify blowing up a building, to then go and use it to justify punching a guy who called you a racial slur.
Sometimes defending yourself requires an act of violence.
You do not need to tell me this. I have practiced in "Hard/Soft" martial arts for over a decade with a black belt. You are correct in stating that sometimes defending yourself requires an act of violence. That "sometimes" equates to instances where you are being physically attacked. As stated in another thread, I don't go and whup people's asses because they call me a cracker or another name when I'm walking down the block by myself.
I find great delight in replying, "oh, you really think that? Well, it's too bad that I can't change that. I hope that you have a nice day," as I look into their eyes and cast them a smile. You would be surprised at some of the responses I receive.
I used that hypothetical (and in this world it's not a far-fetched one) to illustrate that sometimes it requires an "extreme" response to meet an "extreme" threat.
So what is the extreme response that you expect? Because a guy shouting obsceneties at the president is certainly no threat, their idiocy portrayed to the world would be punishment enough. "You're the guy that did XYZ to the president? Get out of my store!" And that is the way it should be in a civilized society.
Edited by -Wade-, January 15, 2014 - 02:18 AM.