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#1 magic90015

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Posted November 26, 2013 - 08:35 PM

Lakers Biggest defense problem.is

Pick and roll defense.

Steve Blake has played good this season so far,

as he doesn't keep shooting 3's even during off day.

However when Lakers facing team with

fast pg or team that plays good pick and roll.

Lakers mostly looses.

Now we have Jordan Farmar, I hope that Lakers give him more minute

when Lakers facing against

Team that has fast PG or plays Pick and roll.

Steve Nash has defense problem but he can still shoot.

I hope Lakers get Marcus Smart or other fast PG in next year playoff.



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Posted November 26, 2013 - 08:44 PM

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Posted November 26, 2013 - 08:54 PM

Yeah, that's been one of our biggest problems for years. Remember when we played the Hornets in the first round? CP3 nearly beat us himself running that pick and roll to death against Pau, every time Pau had to come out to hedge it was pretty much lights out. Also Kobe wasn't really himself so he couldn't do much to help defend it. Still delivered a couple memorable monster jams in that series though.

It's not an easy fix. Obviously it would be nice to have a point guard who can keep up, but who? There isn't really anyone out there. Rondo maybe, doubt we ever acquire him though. And when your strength is size, teams will try to use that against you. There's a counter for everything. If we chose to have a smaller lineup with more mobility, we'd be vulnerable on the boards and lack scoring in the post. If we go big, we're vulnerable in pick and roll and transition but can control the glass and get some points down low, as well as work inside out which helps open up shooters. Every team has a weakness that can be exploited.

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Posted November 26, 2013 - 09:21 PM

As long as Lakers have Kobe Lakers doesn't need 20 ppg 10 apg all star pg. 10 ppg 5 apg fast PG is enough. Ty lawson or Jeff Teaague or Jrue Hoiiday will be good to aquire. But I think potentially if Lakers give Jordan Farmar more minute He can be 15 ppg 7 apg. People say one all star can't win championship today but as long as we have Kobe I believe We don't need other all star level.



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Posted November 26, 2013 - 11:19 PM

As long as Lakers have Kobe Lakers doesn't need 20 ppg 10 apg all star pg. 10 ppg 5 apg fast PG is enough. Ty lawson or Jeff Teaague or Jrue Hoiiday will be good to aquire. But I think potentially if Lakers give Jordan Farmar more minute He can be 15 ppg 7 apg. People say one all star can't win championship today but as long as we have Kobe I believe We don't need other all star level.

You realize you say we don't need a 20/10 PG, but just named 3 PG's that are much closer to 20/10 All-Stars than 10/5.


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Posted November 27, 2013 - 12:08 AM

 lawson or Jeff Teaague or Jrue Hoiiday are doing much better this season. but career wise they are not that all star yet.



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Posted November 27, 2013 - 12:36 AM

pau does not contest every shot wall took after a pick
at least put your hands up
but all he does is backpedal to the rim



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Posted November 27, 2013 - 02:29 AM

Nene was that much of a threat. Pau is already not a good defender, but he also didn't want to leave his man wide open. 



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Posted November 27, 2013 - 02:46 AM

Nene was that much of a threat. Pau is already not a good defender, but he also didn't want to leave his man wide open. 


true. But THAT time he should have because Wes came over and effectively fronted Nene that time around.  Game of gambles sometimes. 


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Posted November 27, 2013 - 02:56 AM

Lazy passing was a big factor in Wiz loss. Road record a huge concern early.


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Posted November 27, 2013 - 08:40 AM

Biggest problem is we have a head coach who doesn't care about defense, an offensive system that doesn't compliment playing good defense, and players who aren't good defensive players. 



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Posted November 27, 2013 - 11:23 AM

kyle lowry for mid level


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Posted November 27, 2013 - 11:34 AM

You have to have a team that has a defensive culture. A few guys who think like Ron Artest. A few guys yelling NO BUCKET NO BUCKETS while they are in your gym shorts with you.  Once you have that culture the referees don't call as many fouls on you because you are grinding from the beginning to end every night. Even when Fisher was up in age a little and Sasha was here they were a pain in the butt on defense. Not great defenders, just a pain in the ass. I see more reaching and late reaction from this group. When we had Ariza and a younger Kobe their DIG IN DEFENSE made up for the slow feet of Bynum and Pau. IMO they should not just study offenses and practice defenses for them. They should go back to basics and DRILLS and an extra 30 minutes per day. Kind of like what the last Olympic team did.  


Edited by lakersince75, November 28, 2013 - 07:56 AM.


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Posted November 27, 2013 - 11:39 AM

Hate to break it to you that's been proven wrong so many times.  Kobe never won a championship without another all star player on the team.  Not to mention he's a much older than he was in his prime.  If Kobe is the only player on the team that can shift the game we aren't making it anyway. 

 

Not to mention at his age he needs to coast.  I'm not sure what guys are expecting but him laboring for 39-40min in games getting 30-35 a game isn't good and won't be a great strategy for winning going forward. 

 

 

As long as Lakers have Kobe Lakers doesn't need 20 ppg 10 apg all star pg. 10 ppg 5 apg fast PG is enough. Ty lawson or Jeff Teaague or Jrue Hoiiday will be good to aquire. But I think potentially if Lakers give Jordan Farmar more minute He can be 15 ppg 7 apg. People say one all star can't win championship today but as long as we have Kobe I believe We don't need other all star level.


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Posted November 27, 2013 - 11:47 AM

Lakers won't have the MLE, only the room MLE which will be 2.7M, max 2 years with 4.5% increase in the 2nd year if used.

 

kyle lowry for mid level


Edited by Jody Smokes, November 27, 2013 - 11:47 AM.

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Posted November 27, 2013 - 12:57 PM

Bingo!! No one has won a chip with less than 2 stars. The closest was Billups and the Boys. Without stars you don't go to the foul line as much and you can't get away with being as physical on D

Hate to break it to you that's been proven wrong so many times.  Kobe never won a championship without another all star player on the team.  Not to mention he's a much older than he was in his prime.  If Kobe is the only player on the team that can shift the game we aren't making it anyway. 

 

Not to mention at his age he needs to coast.  I'm not sure what guys are expecting but him laboring for 39-40min in games getting 30-35 a game isn't good and won't be a great strategy for winning going forward. 


Edited by lakersince75, November 27, 2013 - 12:58 PM.


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Posted November 27, 2013 - 01:18 PM

Turnovers, Pau soft in the middle, and MDA?



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Posted November 27, 2013 - 02:46 PM

In last nights game it's clear to see the P & R spelled doom for LA. It's not like the Lakers didn't see it coming or like it's a new play. You'd think the defensive intensity would've have kicked up a notch in the final minutes of a tight, close game. Wall ran that play to perfect with very little resistance. 


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