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Jordan Hill Discussion - Hill will not return if things stay the same with the Lakers (Pg. 18)


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#401 Majesty

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Posted April 07, 2014 - 01:14 AM

no thats what I was asking.  If we gave multi year deals it would only eat it up on a year by year basis wouldn't it?  


 

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Posted April 07, 2014 - 01:30 AM

no thats what I was asking.  If we gave multi year deals it would only eat it up on a year by year basis wouldn't it?  

Yep, it would. But that doesn't help us all that much.


Edited by DanishLakerFan, April 07, 2014 - 01:32 AM.


#403 Majesty

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Posted April 11, 2014 - 09:14 PM

Hill's averaging 16/10 with almost 2 blocks a game since being made starting center.   

 


 

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Posted April 17, 2014 - 09:21 AM

Does Jordan Hill see himself with the Lakers next season: "Tough to say right now."

 

Jordan Hill sounds like he's out of here. He says he wouldn't mind coming back, but seems like he's looking forward to free agency options

 

I'm watching it live on lakers.com and he really sounds like he is gone.


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Posted April 17, 2014 - 09:26 AM

I think his best years are ahead of him still. Not sure his value but he will help some teams like a better udonis haslem from several years back


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Posted April 17, 2014 - 09:53 AM

Haslem and Hill are 2 different type of players tho

 

I think his best years are ahead of him still. Not sure his value but he will help some teams like a better udonis haslem from several years back


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#407 Majesty

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Posted April 17, 2014 - 11:33 AM

Hill is going to watch what the Lakers do.   

That means he'll see if they let go of D'antoni or not. 


 

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Posted April 17, 2014 - 11:35 AM

Hill should be retained. Hopefully we can get fair value.

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Posted April 17, 2014 - 01:48 PM

Haslem and Hill are 2 different type of players tho

I think of them both as hustle type, offensive rebounding put backs, defensive bigs that dont get a lot of plays run for them but somehow seem to always impact the game...not the haslem of late as age and injury have caught up 


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Posted April 17, 2014 - 02:01 PM

Cant see him coming back. 

 

 

To really break him down

 

He is a below average shot creator for himself

Above average finisher

average hands

average ball handler

great offensive rebounder

below average defensive rebounder

Above average man defense

below average team defense

poor passer

poor shooter

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Posted April 17, 2014 - 02:09 PM

Hill is going to watch what the Lakers do.   

That means he'll see if they let go of D'antoni or not. 

But didn't you always say that was false and he & D'Antoni had no issues? All those posts you made defending that position like crazy? What happened?


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Posted April 17, 2014 - 02:18 PM

He gone.

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Posted April 17, 2014 - 02:19 PM

But didn't you always say that was false and he & D'Antoni had no issues? All those posts you made defending that position like crazy? What happened?


Hill had his best year under D'antoni this year.  

The problem is that Hill likely wants to contend and wants to start, D'antoni in his mind seems to have it pretty clear that Hill has a motor and once that motor goes out he moves him to the bench and wants to keep him with the bench when that happens, which causes fluctuation.   

Hill would never see more than 18-20 mins a game under D'antoni, and while that is good for his role and it likely maximizes him it's a lot to ask, and he for sure doesn't think that, starting and benching etc etc, too much to ask him to return to and I don't blame him.  

 

Hill would rather play 24-28 mins a game and that isn't happening under D'antoni.   He wants to start, and wants to be a pivotal part and he wants 24-28 consistent minutes a game, not 24-28 mins till he gets tired and runs out of gas and then 18-20 mins on the bench etc.   

if that's gonna happen, D'antoni is gonna need to be fired or let go of or re-signed.   If D'antoni remains, Hill likely goes to a team that's gonna consistently play him 24-28 mins a game whether it maximizes him or not.       He won't wind up like Earl Clark if he went elsewhere nor will he wind up like Chris Copeland.  So if the Lakers want to entice him to come back(aside from that they can pay him the most money) they'll need a new coach and the promise of a bigger role. 


Edited by Majesty, April 17, 2014 - 02:19 PM.

 

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Posted April 17, 2014 - 02:20 PM

Hill isn't gonna take a paycut to be here and some team out there is gonna over pay him. I can't see how we could keep him.



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Posted April 17, 2014 - 02:58 PM

In other words he's probably gone. 

 


Hill had his best year under D'antoni this year.  

The problem is that Hill likely wants to contend and wants to start, D'antoni in his mind seems to have it pretty clear that Hill has a motor and once that motor goes out he moves him to the bench and wants to keep him with the bench when that happens, which causes fluctuation.   

Hill would never see more than 18-20 mins a game under D'antoni, and while that is good for his role and it likely maximizes him it's a lot to ask, and he for sure doesn't think that, starting and benching etc etc, too much to ask him to return to and I don't blame him.  

 

Hill would rather play 24-28 mins a game and that isn't happening under D'antoni.   He wants to start, and wants to be a pivotal part and he wants 24-28 consistent minutes a game, not 24-28 mins till he gets tired and runs out of gas and then 18-20 mins on the bench etc.   

if that's gonna happen, D'antoni is gonna need to be fired or let go of or re-signed.   If D'antoni remains, Hill likely goes to a team that's gonna consistently play him 24-28 mins a game whether it maximizes him or not.       He won't wind up like Earl Clark if he went elsewhere nor will he wind up like Chris Copeland.  So if the Lakers want to entice him to come back(aside from that they can pay him the most money) they'll need a new coach and the promise of a bigger role. 


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Posted April 17, 2014 - 03:11 PM

In other words he's probably gone. 


If the Lakers keep D'antoni, yes. 


 

I've always liked Steve Blake.

 


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Posted April 17, 2014 - 04:06 PM

With dantonie gone. I would like to see hill come back and be the starting 5

Small ball.
If hill comes bak at an reasonable number, I would be very happy.. But I think some team will throw 10$ mill a year at him.

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Posted April 17, 2014 - 04:24 PM

With dantonie gone. I would like to see hill come back and be the starting 5

Small ball.
If hill comes bak at an reasonable number, I would be very happy.. But I think some team will throw 10$ mill a year at him.

No way. That's Deandre Jordan/ Larry Sanders money. He hasn't shown enough to warrant that kind of price tag. I see a team offering him $7-$8 million at the most.




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