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#41 UKUGA

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Posted November 07, 2013 - 11:09 AM

The LO for Nash argument is too simplistic.  Take a look at all those picks we traded.  They matter.  We traded away a pick w/Odom.  And we traded away Four picks for Nash. 

 

Odom would've been off our books before now. We wouldn't be paying him $9 million a year to limp around like Nash.  Instead, we are paying a broken down Nash $9 million, and we lost 5 picks in the process.   Even swap?  You have to be joking. 

 

We got an injured Dwight.  It jacked with us last year.  His poor play, due largely to his health, was damaging to team chemistry and helped grease his exit.  A heatlhy Dwight last year could've turned into 55-60 wins, and a shot at the title.  He probably doesn't walk away after that.   Lakers misplayed that one.  Some of this was unforeseeable, but they took a gamble and lost.  It happens.  While Bynum was destined to be traded, we lost TWO picks in that deal, too.

 

So, we traded away 7 draft picks in our quest to acquire Dwight and Steve.   While these were reasonable deals at the time, they have back-fired.  Dwight is gone, and we have nothing in return.  Nash is giving us very little, andt the FO is praying that he will retire at year-end.

 

 

Seven picks. Gone.  2-3 record.  Kobe is injured.

 

The Lakers came out of the lock-out with a great plan.  Trade for Paul and Dwight, and build from there.  Instead, one veto, and 7 jettisoned draft picks.  The Lakers have an injured Bryant, a worn-out Gasol, a breaking down Nash, a bunch of scrubs, and a can of Pringles.

 

Regardless of how we got here, this is where we are.  We still have a first rounder this year.  Let's hope it's a good one and we use it wisely. 

 

 

Got hustled.

Lets skip CP3.

We were stuck with Lamar and turned him to Nash. Both breaking down in different ways. Which was worse?

Got Hill.
Got Sessions.
He left.
We have a bunch of first rounders right now. Cheap at that.


Kobe just got old


Why do u want Dwight moving forward. Houston brought up his questionable health.

Kobe's old.
LeBron isn't.


Kobe had his turn. Like Magic, Bird, Dincan, Shaq, and MJ.
Now it's LeBron.


That's who u blame.


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Posted November 07, 2013 - 12:27 PM

yeah the Lakers sure misplayed getting Dwight Howard because Bynum would have played much more...


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Posted November 07, 2013 - 12:30 PM

even if Lakers finished with worse record the NBA would just fix the draft like they always do & they damn sure wouldnt look out for LAkers. no point in tanking try to win by any means necessary


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Posted November 07, 2013 - 12:51 PM

Not the point.  Not the point.  Not the point.  Not the point.

 

For a guy who likes to type thousands of words a day and act like people care about what you have to say, you sure lack the ability to read and comprehend a pretty basic argument.

 

Congrats on that.

 

 

yeah the Lakers sure misplayed getting Dwight Howard because Bynum would have played much more...


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Posted November 07, 2013 - 12:52 PM

Team with worst record is guaranteed no worse than the #4 pick. 

 

 

even if Lakers finished with worse record the NBA would just fix the draft like they always do & they damn sure wouldnt look out for LAkers. no point in tanking try to win by any means necessary


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Posted November 07, 2013 - 01:05 PM

Not the point.  Not the point.  Not the point.  Not the point.

 

For a guy who likes to type thousands of words a day and act like people care about what you have to say, you sure lack the ability to read and comprehend a pretty basic argument.

 

Congrats on that.

 

What's with the ad hominem? You'd be better countering his statement with your own argument and keep the discussion going rather than attacking him. 



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Posted November 07, 2013 - 01:23 PM

This thread has a short shelf life.

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Posted November 07, 2013 - 01:25 PM

There's nothing to counter.  He just need to re-read what I wrote. 

 

 

What's with the ad hominem? You'd be better countering his statement with your own argument and keep the discussion going rather than attacking him. 


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Posted November 07, 2013 - 01:26 PM

I with Majesty. I want Jesus on this team. If he can't save us, we might as well sell the team...



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Posted November 07, 2013 - 03:30 PM

Hope this thread dies.



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Posted November 07, 2013 - 03:35 PM

There's nothing to counter.  He just need to re-read what I wrote. 

 

Fair point. You should have just replied that to him. ^^



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Posted November 07, 2013 - 06:23 PM

Gotta love how all these folks are like "WE GAVE AWAY PIX 4 NASSSHHHH!!!!" but can't even say who we could have drafted with said picks.


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Posted November 07, 2013 - 06:26 PM

Gotta love how all these folks are like "WE GAVE AWAY PIX 4 NASSSHHHH!!!!" but can't even say who we could have drafted with said picks.

 


Oh special middle of the pack pick in the 2013 weak draft... and some guy we've never heard of in the 2015 draft that's 2 years away...

 

No one talks about how we kept our middle of the pack 2014 draft pick in a much stronger draft than the 2013 draft, nor do they talk about how Phoenix cared so little about the draft pick we gave them they traded it to Minnesota to get Wesley Johnson, who is now a Laker.    Well because then they couldn't complain...


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Posted November 07, 2013 - 06:28 PM

Gotta love how all these folks are like "WE GAVE AWAY PIX 4 NASSSHHHH!!!!" but can't even say who we could have drafted with said picks.

Because how would they know? I don't think anyone here thought of drafting Ryan Kelly with out pick this year.



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Posted November 07, 2013 - 06:34 PM

Some team's management plans to tank and it does not work out that way.  Phx FO memo to Bledsoe:  knock if off now before we win too many.


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Posted November 07, 2013 - 06:36 PM

Gotta love how all these folks are like "WE GAVE AWAY PIX 4 NASSSHHHH!!!!" but can't even say who we could have drafted with said picks.

Asked and answered multiple times in multiple threads, do some reading.


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Posted November 07, 2013 - 06:42 PM

The actual pick ended up going to Cleveland and they drafted Sergey Karasev at #19.  In the end Nash isn't benefitting us and the pick could have been used to gather a young talent.  Tim Hardaway Jr was drafted 24th and he is looking pretty decent.  On top of that we gave a 39 year old man coming off a year where he was being stretched out on a nightly basis a 3 yr 30M dollar deal.  We also are out of the 2015 pick (although top 5 protected) for Nash. 

 

Either way you slice it, it was a bad move. 

Gotta love how all these folks are like "WE GAVE AWAY PIX 4 NASSSHHHH!!!!" but can't even say who we could have drafted with said picks.


Edited by Jody Smokes, November 07, 2013 - 06:43 PM.

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Posted November 07, 2013 - 06:49 PM

In the land of the dogs, [expletive]es are an integral part of life.

 

Nash is what he is.

 

He broke his leg in similar fashion to tyson Chandler, can't go back in the past and stop that



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Posted November 07, 2013 - 06:51 PM

The actual pick ended up going to Cleveland and they drafted Sergey Karasev at #19.  In the end Nash isn't benefitting us and the pick could have been used to gather a young talent.  Tim Hardaway Jr was drafted 24th and he is looking pretty decent.  On top of that we gave a 39 year old man coming off a year where he was being stretched out on a nightly basis a 3 yr 30M dollar deal.  We also are out of the 2015 pick (although top 5 protected) for Nash. 

 

Either way you slice it, it was a bad move. 



Sergey who hasn't played a minute or a second of NBA basketball.


And Tim Hardaway Jr who is shooting 33% from the field and 20% from three point land.


Tell me, is Tim Hardaway Jr showing he's better than Farmar or even Blake? 


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Posted November 07, 2013 - 07:06 PM

Tim Hardaway Jr is a rookie that has a future something that at 39 Nash does not. I can bet everything this is Nash's last year in a Laker uni if not the NBA.  If THJr turns out to be a solid player then what?  The problem is Lakers have 0 assets going forward.  This means we can't execute good trades, have to hope some star wants to come here before Kobe retires (thats if he's even an elite offensive player ever again). 

 

I think guys want to be right so bad they don't even understand that team building means collecting assets.  Nash is a toxic asset.  Untradeable, overpaid and old.  Young players have the potential to be traded or developed into good assets and if they aren't good can be gotten rid of for little to nothing. 


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