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#21 Ven

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Posted November 06, 2013 - 08:30 AM

Webber > Gasol

 

 

Yea if you're gonna pair them off with an actual superstar, then sure Webber is more beneficial. If both get to be the focal points then doesn't really matter.



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Posted November 06, 2013 - 08:31 AM

Really no excuses left. C'mon Pau

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Posted November 06, 2013 - 08:34 AM

Yea if you're gonna pair them off with an actual superstar, then sure Webber is more beneficial. If both get to be the focal points then doesn't really matter.

 

I'm saying he's a better player...PERIOD.


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Posted November 06, 2013 - 09:13 AM

Pau fell off from the start of the 2011 playoffs till now

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Posted November 06, 2013 - 09:30 AM

Pau is very dissapointing....it's just sad at this point.



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Posted November 06, 2013 - 09:37 AM

I think he's talking in the now and I agree with him 1000% percent, Gasol is on the decline and it's showing


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Posted November 06, 2013 - 09:51 AM

Sounds like Webber's bitter.

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#28 Jody Smokes

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Posted November 06, 2013 - 09:58 AM

This and C Webb never played with a player of Kobe's caliber...so the titles talk is kinda pointless

Webber > Gasol


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Posted November 06, 2013 - 10:32 AM

Webber could have won a title if it wasn't for the Lakers and refs and didn't really play with another superstar as himself. Webber is 10x better than Pau would ever be. Webber was a beast in his prime and was an elite player.


Edited by BleedPurple&Gold, November 06, 2013 - 11:00 AM.

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Posted November 06, 2013 - 10:43 AM

If the Lakers would have had CWebb instead of Pau in 2009/10 we would have not won the Chip.

Paus interior passing and ability to consistently knock down 16 foot jumpers killed teams and opened up our offense.

The spacing made everyone better. Especially for Drew to grab rebounds and create the most 2nd chance opportunities in the NBA that year.

CWebb sharing the post with Drew would have been a similar result to Pau in the post with D12 last season. 

 

And we cant judge Pau from what we see now at 33 years of age. Remember Webber retired at 34 and he was absolute trash by then. Pau may have 2-3 years left depending on his knees. Pau at 29>Webber at 29 all day.


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Posted November 06, 2013 - 10:44 AM

Pao and Nash are about a year or two past their expiration date. 



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Posted November 06, 2013 - 10:45 AM

I am speaking on right now. Not the title years. Right now.
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Posted November 06, 2013 - 11:02 AM

You sound very biased and uninformed.  CWebb at 29 was avg 23/11 and 5 assists and game.  There is no question that CWebb > Pau.  Who cares how he last year in the league went.  Pau is playing subpar right now.  C Webb doesn't get bullied by KG and Perk in the 2008 Finals. 

If the Lakers would have had CWebb instead of Pau in 2009/10 we would have not won the Chip.

Paus interior passing and ability to consistently knock down 16 foot jumpers killed teams and opened up our offense.

The spacing made everyone better. Especially for Drew to grab rebounds and create the most 2nd chance opportunities in the NBA that year.

CWebb sharing the post with Drew would have been a similar result to Pau in the post with D12 last season. 

 

And we cant judge Pau from what we see now at 33 years of age. Remember Webber retired at 34 and he was absolute trash by then. Pau may have 2-3 years left depending on his knees. Pau at 29>Webber at 29 all day.


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Posted November 06, 2013 - 11:08 AM

If we had a prime Chris Webber on this team we would be in the WCF. 



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Posted November 06, 2013 - 11:10 AM

Of course  I would have Pau over CWebb in 2009/10. Cwebb was out of the league and obviously too injured and too old to play. Cwebb possessed the same skills as Pau did. He was an equal passer and could knock down shots consistently and grab rebounds and play defense and was an alpha dog and could carry a team. The reason why he was trash from 2004-2008 because he lost his lateral quickness and jumping ability because of microfracture surgery but was still able to average 20-10 one year. A prime CWebb would annihilate a prime Gasol and is 10x better player.


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Posted November 06, 2013 - 11:14 AM

Guys get caught up in the Skip Bayless mentality and want to rewrite history on C Webb.  He was an elite player that happened to play against Kobe/Shaq in his best years.  It's like saying Barkley wasn't elite b/c he lost in the Finals to 93 Bulls


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Posted November 06, 2013 - 11:22 AM

Chris Webber was the focal point of the Kings offense in 2000-1, which was his best year at age 28. Pau was the #2, sometimes #3 option in 2008-9 also at age 28.

Just because Webber got more post touches and 500+ more FG attempts and as a result scored more points does not mean he was the better player.

Your delusional if you would put more value into Webber being on the 08-9 Lakers roster rather than Pau. Actually, your foolish and freaking we-ta-ded if you would. Sorry...like you guys but holy sheeet CMON NOW!


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Posted November 06, 2013 - 11:23 AM

If the Lakers would have had CWebb instead of Pau in 2009/10 we would have not won the Chip.

Paus interior passing and ability to consistently knock down 16 foot jumpers killed teams and opened up our offense.

The spacing made everyone better. Especially for Drew to grab rebounds and create the most 2nd chance opportunities in the NBA that year.

CWebb sharing the post with Drew would have been a similar result to Pau in the post with D12 last season. 

 

And we cant judge Pau from what we see now at 33 years of age. Remember Webber retired at 34 and he was absolute trash by then. Pau may have 2-3 years left depending on his knees. Pau at 29>Webber at 29 all day.

 

Wouldn't agree with this. Pau's never attempted more than 15 FGA and isn't capable of being a primary option. CWebb was, in some sense, a primary scoring option and averaged 27/11 in his best year. He was also one of the best passing big men in the league and definitely had that midrange jumper (remember how he killed LA during the 3 peat years?). 


Edited by bfc1125roy, November 06, 2013 - 11:23 AM.


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Posted November 06, 2013 - 11:24 AM

Chris Webber was the focal point of the Kings offense in 2000-1, which was his best year at age 28. Pau was the #2, sometimes #3 option in 2008-9 also at age 28.

Just because Webber got more post touches and 500+ more FG attempts and as a result scored more points does not mean he was the better player.

Your delusional if you would put more value into Webber being on the 08-9 Lakers roster rather than Pau. Actually, your foolish and freaking we-ta-ded if you would. Sorry...like you guys but holy sheeet CMON NOW!

 

Pau as a primary option on the Grizzlies in his best year only put up 14.9 FGA and 20.4 points. He had all the post touches he wanted but couldn't make use of them. Webber was a legitimate primary option on a championship contender. 



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Posted November 06, 2013 - 11:27 AM

lmao Pau was the focal point of Memphis offense and couldn't get them no where , and couldn't even average over 20 points. You wanna know why Pau is a second option because he is a second option player. You wanna know why CWebb had more touches and more points and more FG because he is a go to guy and first option player and a elite player. Know your history.


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