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#21 BasketballIQ

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Posted November 02, 2013 - 08:03 AM

With our first 3 opponents, 1 win is solid.


Lets see what we do against Atlanta who aren't scrubs, but they have less continuity than us.

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Posted November 02, 2013 - 08:48 AM

lol at least that spurs game was close. lmfao. we should do better with kobe instead of nick young sucking ass


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Posted November 02, 2013 - 08:52 AM

Well, our bench plays with more energy and athleticism. And thus, they're defense is better as a result. But when the game is on the line and the pace has slowed, you'll want Nash, Kobe, and Gasol orchestrating and closing out the game. 

 

Once Kobe is back, our starters should play better. Other teams will have another elite player to worry about.



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Posted November 02, 2013 - 11:41 AM

Seriously we're sitting here talking about how our BENCH was about to blowout the freaking Spurs.

I mean.. how often do you EVER think we'd be saying that?  

We've never had a bench that made theirs look so mediocre and our bench may be one of the best in the league if not the best just the way the pieces fit and the young talent that's on it. 


So when I think of it that way it's more on the starters to get their act together.  Our bench scored 45 last night was it?   If Xavier never goes down who knows, he obviously wasn't the same when he came back(and yet still he didn't blame the splitting headache after the game).   We're sitting here talking about how we should have beaten the Spurs easy.  

Considering the expectations and how many people(and fans) are counting us out the fact we're in a position to say how we were gonna blow out the Spurs with our darn bench is a good sign.



What we cannot afford to do is letdown against Atlanta, it's a team we SHOULD beat.   The only thing I worry about is if we don't guard Korver on the perimeter.  Nash does a fantastic job shutting down Danny Green though,  I think we could put him on Korver.


I love the shots Nash was getting last night too, his legs come back and those shots fall it makes the defense unable to guard him under screens, that way it causes different rotation and thus is how Nash sets up his assists.   Nash open in the mid range after horns I'll take it, and he WAS aggressive last night which is a sign that his body is in fact feeling much better and the rest is working and we're just three games into the season.   If we can stick with the plan and play  at a high level over .500 he'll be himself by about Christmas which is around the time Kobe will also be back.

 

So, the next 10 games are vital.   They are all middle of the pack or lower tier teams we should beat and should have an above .500 record against.    Atlanta is a team we MUST beat, because then it's 4 games in 5 nights road trip.  

If that's gonna happen our other under 30 players need to have big games, I'm talking about Young and Williams.  Young had a solid first game, but his shot ain't been right since nor is his willingness to shoot.

 

Gasol also needs to bring the energy and if his first few jumpers clank he needs to take it into the post   Kaman is still getting back into the swing of things it looks like but he'll be there sooner rather than later.  

Atlanta has a small kind of lineup so we can exploit Kaman and Gasol against them.   Williams should be able to guard Milsap.

 

So we'll see how it goes. 


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Posted November 02, 2013 - 12:13 PM

Kaman and Nash will look better this game. Lets hope Young can get going and Meeks keeps it up.

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Posted November 02, 2013 - 12:27 PM

even though we lost.im very happy how our bench played and I didnt mind to much the loss. I can only imagine if we had kobe and we should of kept earl clark. farmar has been really good. if we had clark I think our bench would have been even more potent. we should definetly keep this bench for next season

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Posted November 02, 2013 - 12:30 PM

I was a little disapointed on defense in some parts of the game. what we need is another coach. he needs to preach more defense.

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Posted November 02, 2013 - 12:50 PM

Young players hit the wall at some point and once we're 15 games into the season teams will figure out how to defend against them. The youth and athleticism LA has now is great but let's not act like we have an all star bench 



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Posted November 02, 2013 - 12:55 PM

At the end of the day Earl Clark believed the Cavs would be a better destination(likely because Dwight left).


But adding Clark to that lineup(lets say in place of Williams) then yes we're a very VERY good young team and a defensive lineup of 

Farmar
Xavier
Johnson
Clark
Hill

small ball lineup is a scary proposition defensively, but they'd need a consistent floor spacer aside from Farmar which is why Meeks fits with the unit offensively.


Edited by Majesty, November 02, 2013 - 12:55 PM.

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Posted November 02, 2013 - 01:25 PM

If we had this year's bench and still had Dwight and a healthy Kobe, oh my.......

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Posted November 02, 2013 - 01:45 PM

If we had this year's bench and still had Dwight and a healthy Kobe, oh my.......


If Dwight stays we likely would have.   But the problem is he didn't think Mitch could pull it off.


Edited by Majesty, November 02, 2013 - 01:45 PM.

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Posted November 02, 2013 - 02:20 PM

We still don't have a great bench.  The bench and the starters are playing the same amount of minutes and have the same talent level excluding Pau. 

If we had this year's bench and still had Dwight and a healthy Kobe, oh my.......


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Posted November 02, 2013 - 02:21 PM


If Dwight stays we likely would have. But the problem is he didn't think Mitch could pull it off.


Yup.

The second year is when u would have either traded Pau or signed young hungry fast guys to the team

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Posted November 02, 2013 - 02:22 PM

He had a choice of Harden, Asik, Parsons and didnt want to play out a year with obviously Nash being extremely iffy and the unknowns surrounding Kobe.  Mitch really didn't do anything but gather some reject players lol.  Kaman is the only pickup that we can say yea he made a good move.  Xavier Henry was a camp invite,  teams had given up on Wes Johnson as well. 


If Dwight stays we likely would have.   But the problem is he didn't think Mitch could pull it off.


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Posted November 02, 2013 - 02:50 PM

and despite all that we have one of the top 3 benches in the league.  Yes better than San Antonio's. 

So regardless on what other people "thought" of the people Mitch brought in, he got them at the right time and that's what matters isn't it. 

People can be garbage anywhere else but if they do great on the Lakers it was a brilliant move.   very few people were saying that our bench was gonna trample all over san antonio or beat the Clippers single handedly. 

 

Mitch gave us probably one of the best benches in the league if not the best.  So we can sit back and say "yeah but they were rejects here and there"

Well here and in the proper system they are flourishing.  Once again Mitch put together in a time when no one thought he could.   Great moves by Mitch now we have to execute.


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Posted November 02, 2013 - 02:53 PM

Young players who didnt develop in college long enough like Farmar and Ariza, Earl Clark, Shannon, Xavier, Wes Johnson.
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Posted November 02, 2013 - 03:16 PM

and despite all that we have one of the top 3 benches in the league.  Yes better than San Antonio's. 

So regardless on what other people "thought" of the people Mitch brought in, he got them at the right time and that's what matters isn't it. 

People can be garbage anywhere else but if they do great on the Lakers it was a brilliant move.   very few people were saying that our bench was gonna trample all over san antonio or beat the Clippers single handedly. 

 

Mitch gave us probably one of the best benches in the league if not the best.  So we can sit back and say "yeah but they were rejects here and there"

Well here and in the proper system they are flourishing.  Once again Mitch put together in a time when no one thought he could.   Great moves by Mitch now we have to execute.

If only we had that great defensive player that would solidify our team 


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Posted November 02, 2013 - 03:16 PM

Doesn't matter how good your bench is when your starting lineup is as good as the bench in a bad way.  The bench is productive in numbers only b/c they are playing about the same amount of minutes as the starters.  If you look at talent level there are plenty of other teams that have better benches backing up their better starters. 

and despite all that we have one of the top 3 benches in the league.  Yes better than San Antonio's. 

So regardless on what other people "thought" of the people Mitch brought in, he got them at the right time and that's what matters isn't it. 

People can be garbage anywhere else but if they do great on the Lakers it was a brilliant move.   very few people were saying that our bench was gonna trample all over san antonio or beat the Clippers single handedly. 

 

Mitch gave us probably one of the best benches in the league if not the best.  So we can sit back and say "yeah but they were rejects here and there"

Well here and in the proper system they are flourishing.  Once again Mitch put together in a time when no one thought he could.   Great moves by Mitch now we have to execute.


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Posted November 02, 2013 - 05:50 PM

If we had this year's bench and still had Dwight and a healthy Kobe, oh my.......

....we would still have MDA as the coach though



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Posted November 05, 2013 - 08:09 PM

Bench Blake, Nash, and Gaso for one game and see how we will do. I am not kidding. 


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