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#1 Jack Lime

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Posted October 08, 2013 - 09:39 PM

I've seen across the internet and hearing on 710ESPN after the Laker game tonight that Steve Nash is "done" and even "was a mistake" like really? Who the crap else were we going to get? The guy who hosts the show was really going HAM on the fact that he won't play "starers minuets" but will start.

 

Disscuss.


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#2 Tensai

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Posted October 08, 2013 - 09:52 PM

People talk.



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Posted October 08, 2013 - 10:01 PM

Yeah, listening to Lakers line, as well. People need to shut up.



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Posted October 08, 2013 - 10:32 PM

I love Nash and stoked that we got him. I don't care if he's old. He's awesome! 



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Posted October 08, 2013 - 10:45 PM

Agree. The hate on Nash is BS and so is a lot of the hate against the Lakers.

 

2011-12. Nash was an all-star with a PER of 20.

2012-13. Nash started the season with a broken leg and played in 2-3 different systems and still posted a PER of 16.

 

2011-12. Jose Calderon posted a PER of 16.7

2012-13. Jose Calderon posted a PER of 18.2

 

Calderon is a horrid defender - the worst in the league and a lot worse than Nash - yet he just signed a 4-yr 30 million deal with Dallas, that people seem to like. Nash had all odds against him last season and still played well when he was on the court.

I expect Nash to bounce back this season and while he wont make any all-star teams, I think he'll outplay Calderon.

 

Another point: Why is it, that everyone project Dallas to be better than LA this year?

An aging Dirk, Marion, Calderon, Carter and Dalembert with Monta Ellis - who has a knack for dragging a team down - and Devin Harris.



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Posted October 08, 2013 - 10:54 PM

Nash blocked Ty Lawson on an iso.

Their argument is invalid lol


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Posted October 08, 2013 - 11:08 PM

Nash blocked Ty Lawson on an iso.

Their argument is invalid lol

 

Lawson is about the size of a hobbit.



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Posted October 08, 2013 - 11:11 PM

Lawson is about the size of a hobbit.


Before today you'd have picked the hobbit to score on Nash =p


"Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen." 


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Posted October 09, 2013 - 01:02 AM


Before today you'd have picked the hobbit to score on Nash =p

 

Of course. But I chance my stance every hour or so...

 

Actually, only in 2012-13 did Lawson play better than Nash and while Lawson really give slow-footed Nash a lot of trouble, I think (hope) Nash will be a positive surprise this season.



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Posted October 09, 2013 - 01:05 AM

Nash doesn't have to play significant minutes to make an impact on this team. Steve Blake and Jordan Farmar have been solid as our back up guards and Nash still dished out some unbelievable assists. 



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Posted October 09, 2013 - 02:24 AM

Nash doesn't have to play significant minutes to make an impact on this team. Steve Blake and Jordan Farmar have been solid as our back up guards and Nash still dished out some unbelievable assists. 


I agree 100%.  Nash can have those minutes though to set the table and Blake and Farmar should be able to keep the consistency.

But I do think we need to play Nash enough minutes so he can find that rhythm in his game, to where his flashes aren't just flashes.

 

So once he gets that consistency back I think we can start doing that.  I hope Farmar plays next game, I don't think Blake should have to play 27 mins consistently during pre-season this early lol =p


"Bryant had come to rage against the idea that Howard's clownish disposition could overtake the locker room, the Lakers' culture, and had warned Howard that he would never, ever let it happen." 


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Posted October 09, 2013 - 02:38 AM

I'd limit his minutes to 15 a game still, which wasn't possible last year with Steve Blake getting hurt and our reserves only consisting of Morris and Duhon. 

 

Oh Jesus, I can't believe how glad I am to have Farmar back. 



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Posted October 09, 2013 - 05:26 AM

Nash remains maybe the smartest player in the league, and one of my favorites over the last decade.

As long as he's healthy and we're in the playoff hunt id expect him to be about 33 minutes a game in playoffs.

 

Who besides kobe would you want with the ball on this team in the final seconds of a close game if not Nash to make the best decision or hit the big shot? Big Nash guy


Edited by kball, October 09, 2013 - 05:32 AM.

Praying for 1. Kobe's Health (a special 20th season, like he deserves), 2. Draft Picks Ballin (they better. Seems half the team hasnt played in league) 3. Miracle Move (We still need 2 more impact guys, but Bass and Lou are solid moves), 4. Hibbert (trimming down, change of scenery and attitude sorely needed) 5. Upshaw (If he works out, mitch and jim and ryan deserve major kudos as the risk is minimal). Staples (some renewed energy in that building, been a total morgue last couple years)

READY FOR SEASON!

 

 


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Posted October 09, 2013 - 05:29 AM

Last yr his game took a serious decline. injuries & being able to run the team. it was so bad at a point in season our SG had to be the PG for Lakers to have any success.


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Posted October 09, 2013 - 05:34 AM

Last yr his game took a serious decline. injuries & being able to run the team. it was so bad at a point in season our SG had to be the PG for Lakers to have any success.

7 assists/game on one leg basically. He gets the benefit of the doubt from me


Praying for 1. Kobe's Health (a special 20th season, like he deserves), 2. Draft Picks Ballin (they better. Seems half the team hasnt played in league) 3. Miracle Move (We still need 2 more impact guys, but Bass and Lou are solid moves), 4. Hibbert (trimming down, change of scenery and attitude sorely needed) 5. Upshaw (If he works out, mitch and jim and ryan deserve major kudos as the risk is minimal). Staples (some renewed energy in that building, been a total morgue last couple years)

READY FOR SEASON!

 

 


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Posted October 09, 2013 - 05:36 AM

Mr. Pringles, Nash & Kobe wheel chair pride are to blame for his achillies so I give Nash no pass/benefit of doubt.

7 assists/game on one leg basically. He gets the benefit of the doubt from me


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Posted October 09, 2013 - 07:12 AM

People can't forum their own opinions. They hear their friends talk about Nash in a negative light so they continue the trend.

People that call in are a joke most of the time. Last year I heard these three things:

1) They'd rather have Smush Parker than Nash.

2) Kobe should come off the bench

3) The Lakers needed to add a defensive stud in Bargnani

Not joking either.

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Posted October 09, 2013 - 08:56 AM

Nash should not play more than 18-20 minutes a game and he should come off the bench. Don't fool yourself, he is not the same Nash, we all know.


I agree 100%.  Nash can have those minutes though to set the table and Blake and Farmar should be able to keep the consistency.

But I do think we need to play Nash enough minutes so he can find that rhythm in his game, to where his flashes aren't just flashes.

 

So once he gets that consistency back I think we can start doing that.  I hope Farmar plays next game, I don't think Blake should have to play 27 mins consistently during pre-season this early lol =p



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Posted October 09, 2013 - 09:29 AM

People can't forum their own opinions. They hear their friends talk about Nash in a negative light so they continue the trend.

People that call in are a joke most of the time. Last year I heard these three things:

1) They'd rather have Smush Parker than Nash.

2) Kobe should come off the bench

3) The Lakers needed to add a defensive stud in Bargnani

Not joking either.

 

Really? HAHAHAHA

 

I do like Nash, but I'd rather Farmar to start or at least him giving the bulk of the starting minutes, and let Nash be on the floor in late game sitiuation


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Posted October 09, 2013 - 12:16 PM

I don't hate the guy but his body won't hold up. 


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