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#41 Majesty

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Posted September 21, 2013 - 08:11 PM

It's not what the rappers "know" it's what the "sell" there's a difference ;)


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Posted September 21, 2013 - 10:38 PM

We "know" they are just doing it for a "living" and not for rap in general and they "know" this too. Hence, the term "mainstream." I could write a rap right now, call myself a "rapper," so Idk where you are going with this "I'm not in a rapper shoes" cause it wouldn't go anywhere. We're fans, we critique others. Just how we critique players like Dwight Howard on this forum. And currently criticizing Drake for his mediocre "hot" "rapping."

Edited by Ham, September 21, 2013 - 10:45 PM.

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Posted September 21, 2013 - 10:46 PM

dont know why everybody hating on drake?

 

hes a solid musician and his lyrics express my problems/issues with girls etc

some guys can identify good with him

 

he may not be the freshest rapper, but he has talent !


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Posted September 22, 2013 - 04:51 PM

LOL hip hop heads.

 

Would swear up and down they know more about rap then rappers who do it for a living.

 

 

@PhillyLaker24, I learned along time ago to just let them be. They're clearly bigots.

 

Yea I know. Its just funny how a simple subjective topic such as music can get people riled up as if their their opinion is any more valid and powerful then yours.

 

You would bring up subjectivity and his accolades when you are clearly losing this argument. the platinum records dont mean [expletive] whenthey didnt contribute to rap at all. Of course, he is an artist? I never knew I had to say something so simple? I am saying he is not a true rapper. Drake has never shown the lyrical prowess of Kendrick Lamar, the "hottest" current rapper. I'll put a nail in your coffin if you try to argue that. yes i referenced eminem. That's fact. Btw, Kendrick gets praise from almost every great so idk where you're going with this. You can be hot all you want, but are you truly a rapper or are you doing it for the money? You can get those answers from the artists music. Rap is spitting about real [expletive]. Something your catchy phrase loving simple mind would not understand.

 

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Posted September 22, 2013 - 10:00 PM

dont know why everybody hating on drake?

hes a solid musician and his lyrics express my problems/issues with girls etc
some guys can identify good with him

he may not be the freshest rapper, but he has talent !


That's exactly what it he is. He makes catchy tunes that some dudes jig with. I just can't stand all the credit he gets. He's no where near the upper echelon of rap, but he is a great pop star.

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Posted September 22, 2013 - 10:56 PM

Drake was called out By Kendrick, and the other young dudes who spit.

 

 

Drake can spit, but like Kanye, he isn't strictly a bar spitter and there are dudes who SPIT better.

 

 

But as far as being a rap artist, he makes consistently good music and his NUMBERS tell a lot.

 

 

He is a great artist



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Posted September 22, 2013 - 11:18 PM

Back in kindergarten, I was a beast with the crayons. Teacher told me I was a great artist.


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Posted September 23, 2013 - 07:12 AM

Drake was called out By Kendrick, and the other young dudes who spit.


Drake can spit, but like Kanye, he isn't strictly a bar spitter and there are dudes who SPIT better.


But as far as being a rap artist, he makes consistently good music and his NUMBERS tell a lot.


He is a great artist

That is true, but people are acting like he is the hottest "rapper." There's one thing wrong with that statement. Drake barely raps and when he does its barely on par with the true great rappers You could say he is ONE of the hottest "artists." that's a broad category, which is why he is one of the hottest. but to call him the hottest rapper, you are going a little overboard when the artist barely raps in his music.

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Posted September 23, 2013 - 07:51 AM

Kendrick is obviously your king, and for Good reason.

 

 

Strictly using words, he is one of the best. However, music is more than words. reap is more than lyrics.

 

 

There seems to be some group of fans who act like Rap wasn't started as "party musc" hene the DJ.

 

The act like Rap is all about the

 

Rakim-Nas- type rappers, with some Big Pun inthere as well.

 

 

the first "rap" was ...Hey hey , time to partay, and chants like that, done by the DJ himself

 

 

Drake is part of teh evolution. Pac ,BIG,Em,Nas all get their sing on in some way.

 

 

Drake is real hip hop, like Snoop was , like Juvenile, like Outkast.

 

 

he is one of the great young artist. Jay-Z himself gives the props, a lot of old heads respect what the young Toronto native is doing



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Posted September 23, 2013 - 10:51 AM

 

That party music/club music you talk about is different. 

 

It's still hard to separate the two and its hard to explain as well.

 

 

The musical features of rap and hip hop are quite different. Rap is a combination of rhyming and poetry to a musical beat. The subject of the rap can range from local events to relationships. In the early 1970s and 1980s, rappers provided social commentary on issues that were not receiving regular media attention. In later years, popular rap became more focused on consumer commercialism and relationship issues.

 

 

Hip hop music includes rhythm and blues and beat boxing. Rhythm and blues or R&B music is a combination of soul and pop music. Singers combine their lyrics to fast-paced music that is often used as the background to complex dance routines. This type of music lead the cross over into popular music with soulful singing and lyrics focused on common relationship issues.

 

from wisegeek, http://www.wisegeek....and-hip-hop.htm

 

This is the point I've been trying to get across through these few pages. They are two different things.

 

Edited by Ham, September 23, 2013 - 10:55 AM.

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Posted September 23, 2013 - 06:22 PM

For me Drake has gotten repetitive. 

Maybe it has something to do with him appearing on every other song even ones he technically shouldn't belong on.

But whenever I hear him it comes in two forms

"oh I'm so whipped" or "Im so cocky and confident you'll wanna get with me!"

It's the equivilent of Peter Parker in that awful spider man 3 movie dancing in a club like he didn't care and was having the time of his life and then 5 minutes later crying in the rain on top of a church....  

That's what Drake is to me.


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Posted September 23, 2013 - 06:25 PM


It's the equivilent of Peter Parker in that awful spider man 3 movie dancing in a club like he didn't care and was having the time of his life and then 5 minutes later crying in the rain on top of a church....  

That's what Drake is to me.

 

lmao

 

Man, they really messed that movie up too.  :(


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