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#41 BasketballIQ

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Posted September 05, 2013 - 02:05 PM

If we haven't heard ANYTHING regarding Beas by now, it means he could be available as far as clearing waivers

 

 

Let's say we wanted 14 spots including Beasley who would be the odd man out

Kobe

Pau

Nash

Kaman

Hill

Nick

Blake

Farmar

Wes

Sacre

Beas

Elias Harris



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Posted September 05, 2013 - 02:10 PM

Why are we signing another wing player?



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Posted September 05, 2013 - 02:11 PM

If we haven't heard ANYTHING regarding Beas by now, it means he could be available as far as clearing waivers


Let's say we wanted 14 spots including Beasley who would be the odd man out
Kobe
Pau
Nash
Kaman
Hill
Nick
Blake
Farmar
Wes
Sacre
Beas
Elias Harris


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Posted September 05, 2013 - 02:26 PM

I'd rather they had signed Beasley to be honest lol.  Xavier Henry sucks.


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Posted September 05, 2013 - 02:37 PM

Signing Henry doesn't put Beasley out of play. Xaviers is a partial "you still need to make the team" contract. If we signed Beasley it'd pretty much be a "lock" contract.

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Posted September 05, 2013 - 03:18 PM

I expect the Lakers to sign like 2 more dudes, possibly even 3. Pre season will be like 15-20 players duking it out for a roster spots. I'm more anxious than a popcorn kernel in a microwave for the season to start.

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Posted September 05, 2013 - 04:53 PM

I've never been this excited for a preseason...



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Posted September 05, 2013 - 05:56 PM

I've never been this excited for a preseason...

I get excited about pre-season every year. Cause NBA season is almost here, baby!



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Posted September 05, 2013 - 06:00 PM

I expect the Lakers to sign like 2 more dudes, possibly even 3. Pre season will be like 15-20 players duking it out for a roster spots. I'm more anxious than a popcorn kernel in a microwave for the season to start.

 

Only have one more roster spot open.

 

Ib4 "PLZ SIGN BEANSLEY MITCH!"


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Posted September 05, 2013 - 06:01 PM

I get excited about pre-season every year. Cause NBA season is almost here, baby!

 

That's true. 

But this season we actually have a deep bench and some players to look forward to watching. Some unlocked potential out there. It'll be a fun season!



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Posted September 05, 2013 - 06:20 PM

Some interesting tweets from Steve Kyler for those concerned about Beasley

 

"where does Beasley land? ---> Not sure he does... but he left money on the table, so usually means he has options."

 

you think they will be interested though? ---> In Beasley? would be surprised. Any $ you give him is a taxed dollar.

 

 

Beasley is leaving roughly $2 million on the table... pretty safe to assume his camp believes he can pick that up getting out of Phoenix


Edited by Jody Smokes, September 05, 2013 - 06:23 PM.

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Posted September 05, 2013 - 06:37 PM

Some interesting tweets from Steve Kyler for those concerned about Beasley

 

"where does Beasley land? ---> Not sure he does... but he left money on the table, so usually means he has options."

 

you think they will be interested though? ---> In Beasley? would be surprised. Any $ you give him is a taxed dollar.

 

 

Beasley is leaving roughly $2 million on the table... pretty safe to assume his camp believes he can pick that up getting out of Phoenix


interesting.


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Posted September 05, 2013 - 09:40 PM

Lotta guys 6'6 and under... Losing Clark, Jamison, and Metta was huge. They all have flaws, but it's not easy to find guys who are between 6'8-6'10 and can play both the 3 and 4 spots. I like the additions we made, but on the other hand we've lost a lot in those 3 players (and then of course Dwight). We'll just have to wait and see how it plays out I guess.

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Posted September 05, 2013 - 09:43 PM

Clublakers.com's rydjorker121' scouting report on Xavier Henry...

Xavier Henry:
Position: SF
Height: 6’6”
Weight: 220
Age: 22
Contract: $884,293 (’13-14)
Nickname: N/A
Years With Team: 0
Years With League: 3
Previous Teams: Memphis, New Orleans
Acquired: Free Agent '13

Henry is extremely limited offensively, with a tick below usage rate for SGs, but to make matters worse he's been played out of position his first three years in the league. Offensively, shooting guards are characterized by having deep range and respectable passing ability: Henry has none of that. He had the absolute worst assist rate among SGs this year (62 out of 62 guards), and he's never been above 47th for his career; for someone who is completely inept at passing, he also has sported a slightly above average turnover rate career-wise as well. This isn't new: his one year in college saw NBA PF-levels of handles. Henry also lacks deep range, ranking 60th in three point attempts.

Henry's offense involves a heavy dose of spot-up mid-range shots (3rd) and at-rim attempts (7th) with side attempts at runners (18th), but none of these are really viable options. Henry struggles to finish at even an average pace, which isn't helped by average athleticism (he has an average dunk rate among SGs), but this year he decided to do more head-down slashing off his dribble, which has led to greater inaccuracy (54th in finishing rate this year) and more turnover proneness. He really tries hard to make things happen offensively, because he really drew the fouls (3rd with at-rim/foul drawing) and is a constant presence on the offensive boards (13th). However, while switching up runners to at-rim shots led to a slightly improved efficiency, the turnover proneness and lack of finishing undermine it somewhat. Likewise, the mid-range shots are awful: Henry's shot well below the average over the last two seasons, despite most of them being spot-up, and with a lack of range and free throw percentages between 61-63%, there isn't much hope in this front. Everything Henry does offensively is a weakness: opposing teams purposely leave him open 16 feet out because "can't shoot" is in their scouting reports, and are even happy to let him make decisions driving to the rim since "can't pass" and "can't finish" are also in those reports. It's virtually 4-on-5 on this end.

Defensively, Henry was awful this past season in New Orleans, on top of bringing negligible offense. New Orleans was already an awful defensive team last year, but somehow, Henry was their weakest link, being their worst at contesting shots. He doesn't gamble either, showing a serious lack of reflexes in accruing steals (41st this year; 54th his rookie year). But what Henry reeks of is "massive hustle player" on this end: he shows a major knack for drawing charges (5th this year an also his rookie year), and also shows a knack for getting the defensive boards, ranking 11th this year after an 18th ranking the previous year. Still, he's massively foul prone, ranking 61st this year and 47th his rookie year. Henry has somewhat of an unearned defensive rep, because while he looks the part, career-wise he's never been a stand-out in either man or team defense, and this year proves that he might be more Reggie Evans-ish on defense: gets the boards, draws charges, and hacks like crazy, but lacking in major nuances such as actually playing the defense.

Henry might have a future as a hustle player, which on offense manifests itself in drawing fouls and getting o-boards, and on defense by hacking, drawing charges and getting defensive boards, but he might still be at that phase where he's using his hustling ability to try to camouflage his severe lack of ability on both ends of the court, because of his previous standing as a lottery pick. On top of that, he's just a major tweener on offense--lacking the shooting and passing for SGs, but also lacking the athleticism, height and now suffering in rebounding if he's pegged as a full time SF. The reality is, at his current state, he's probably best as the third small forward off the bench who can operate as a hustling, energy guy, and with a fresh start with zero expectations the Lakers might see him that way.

His handles are forever broke, but there's precedence for good shooting, as he shot 42% from deep in college on top of a 78% free throw percentage, and also racked up steals and developed a 3's/D rep. That 3's/D role player rep seems super far away on both counts, but if he can deviate ever so slightly towards that again, that would help, as he's still young. Personally, it looks to me that his average athleticism has exposed a poor inside game and poor reflexes, and his shooting ability in college was a fluke, further exposing his inability to pass--and Kansas has a notorious reputation this decade for producing poor quality NBA players. Obviously, his career won't last long if he can't gain a footing on offense or defense, and it speaks volumes that he couldn't even last the full length of his rookie contract.



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Posted September 05, 2013 - 09:52 PM

Lotta guys 6'6 and under... Losing Clark, Jamison, and Metta was huge. They all have flaws, but it's not easy to find guys who are between 6'8-6'10 and can play both the 3 and 4 spots. I like the additions we made, but on the other hand we've lost a lot in those 3 players (and then of course Dwight). We'll just have to wait and see how it plays out I guess.

of those 3, only one played like a big man, Clark

 

 

The others jacked 3s way too much and offensively hurt s, and Jamison hurt us defensively for sure, and sometimes Metta.

 

 

I feel like if some combination of

 

Nash,Kobe,Blake,Meeks,Pau,Kaman,Hill, Finish out games for us, then we have failed

 

 

Nick Young or Wes Johnson HAVE to be on that list instead of Blake or Meeks, because we'll always be at a defensive disadvantage with an anchor, but with 2 PGs, we are compromised even more, so we need

 

Nash-Kobe-Nick/Wes-Pau-Kaman/Hill

 

 

I can see the pure height of Kaman and Pau, AT THE END OF GAMES, detracting lay-ups, and having that BIG effect we have had the past 5-6 years.

 

 

We need one more big guy.

 

I do think there is a place for Sacre.

 

 

Mid 2nd quarter when everyone is a little tired, guys can get him a quick little inside shot or 12 footer. But I hope we get Beasley, not to close games, but as that PF option, who can stretch the floor



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Posted September 05, 2013 - 11:36 PM

Settle down guys, it's camp fodder.  All of these signings are.

 

One will catch on, never or rarely play one or two of you will freak out that they're not playing and completely overrate the player and what he can do.  He'll be released at the end of year and next season you'll say you don't even remember him or you'll pine unnecessarily for weeks about what a great player the Lakers let go while he languishes overseas or in the NBDL.

 

Same stuff, different year.



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Posted September 05, 2013 - 11:37 PM

Having Pau in the post for the closing minutes of a game is a suicide. When players saw Dwight getting out and Pau getting in, they immediately started attacking the paint and had great success. So having two 7 footers with no defensive ability does not mean that we can stop lay-ups. Lenght alone is not enough and does not translate to good paint defence.


Edited by nikolatesla, September 06, 2013 - 04:34 AM.


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Posted September 05, 2013 - 11:43 PM

Settle down guys, it's camp fodder.  All of these signings are.

 

One will catch on, never or rarely play one or two of you will freak out that they're not playing and completely overrate the player and what he can do.  He'll be released at the end of year and next season you'll say you don't even remember him or you'll pine unnecessarily for weeks about what a great player the Lakers let go while he languishes overseas or in the NBDL.

 

Same stuff, different year.


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Posted September 06, 2013 - 04:23 AM

That Miami game comes to mind, they attacked Pau twice with one being an And 1.  Pretty much what won the game for them in the ending stretch.

Having Pau in the post for the closing minutes of a game is a suicide. When players saw Dwight getting out and Pau getting him, they immediately started attacking the paint and had great success. So having two 7 footers with no defensive ability does not mean that we can stop lay-ups. Lenght alone is not enough and does not translate to good paint defence.


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Posted September 06, 2013 - 04:25 AM

In other words outside of his physical measurements on paper buddy is certified garbage



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