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#41 bfc1125roy

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Posted July 29, 2013 - 12:54 PM

To GCMD's point though.

 

He's not pure like Klay,Ray,Steph,Steve or one of those guys like that.

 

He's not Wade or Westbrook , guys who aren't "shooters" but can hit shots.

 

 

I would say most players are.

 

Long-range I think guys like Pierce are better

 

There's a reason defenses don't defend him like Klay, Westbrook, or Pierce lol. He would destroy teams with his "streaky shooting" in that case 



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Posted July 29, 2013 - 05:17 PM

Anyone that doesn't think Kobe is streaky is sipping the homer juice pretty hard.  I cant count the amount of games thinking, "man when is Kobe gonna get hot?"  If you haven't thought the same at some point in time, we're probably not watching the same games. We all know he's eventually gonna get his, but it definitely comes in waves. 



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Posted July 29, 2013 - 11:20 PM

Kobe is definitely a streaky shooter... He could miss all his shots in the first half and come in the second half and make every single shot...



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Posted July 29, 2013 - 11:56 PM

Who isn't a streaky shooter?

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Posted July 30, 2013 - 02:11 AM

Who isn't a streaky shooter?


The only people that aren't "streaky" if we're going by this definition.

Are guys whose job is to only shoot the ball 5 times a game when wide open.

As in guys the defense pays little to no attention to cause they are focused on the true star(like Kobe)


But when you're the star and have to deal with a lot of defensive attention every night the way Kobe has with no other wing player next to him capable of creating outside of Kobe spoonfeeding them the ball, it seems that way.

The only two wing players Kobe has ever had the last few years that could create their own shot without being spoonfed by him was Steve Nash and Metta and Sessions before he got his shoulder jacked up by Deandre Jordan.


Durant seems like the most deadly shooter in the NBA, which is true only for the fact he has Russell Westbrook to take defensive attention away from him.  That's the advantage of having another wing player next to you capable of creating for themselves.

Once Westbrook went away and defenses could actually focus in on Durant without the worry of another wing player scorching them that 51% shooting percentage dropped to 45%  and his three point percentage which had been 41% dropped all the way down to 31%.

That is not a coincidence.    So technically every star player in the NBA is streaky when they don't have a second option.

The only one that doesn't seem streaky is LeBron James, because of his dominance in the post. But he is also very selective about his jump shots and people still play off of him as if he can't hit a jump shot anymore when in reality he hits 52% of his jump shots.

Watching Popovich decide to have his guys play OFF him whenever LeBron was out of the paint and giving him jumper after jumper till he hit about 5 was infuriating from a defensive coach who had effectively shut down the paint.  

That said, LeBron's shooting percentage if Dwayne Wade is a shell of himself will likely drop next year, because he'll have to force up more shots against a defense unworried about Wade.    This was evident in the playoffs

Against the Bulls where Wade was pretty much MIA and the defense was able to focus on him he shot only 43%  and against the Spurs when Wade was all but invisible for all but 3 games and Bosh was pretty much invisible outside of three pointers LeBron shot a seasons worst 44%.


If Bosh and Wade are docile, yes LeBron's shooting percentage goes down because he has to carry the offense and force bad shots occasionally over them. 

That's why Durant's drops when he no longer has Westbrook.  

When a player has options they usually find those options for open shots and don't have to force as many bad ones. 

So the fact Kobe had to carry our entire team while Nash was injured, Dwight was non committing on the offense and refused to pick and roll and Gasol was injury plagued and everyone else was inconsistent or injuries got so bad that we had to run a 7 man lineup and yet Kobe was still being able to shoot 46% while averaging 27/6/5 is astonishing.    

I've no doubt that Kobe is capable of shooting 50% or over in a season, but when the only shot creator on your team is Metta World Peace until Steve Nash gets there, you find yourself iso'ing a LOT more and having to force up more shots against locked defense focusing primarily on him with no worry of anyone else.

 

just my 2 cents :)


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Posted July 30, 2013 - 04:38 PM

People would not accuse Kobe of being a streak shooter if he actually shot 50% 

sadly because of his stubbornness to take tough shots that is the reason his percentage has always been 45% 

 

phil jackson more or less said kobe is a streak shooter when he compared him to michael 



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Posted July 30, 2013 - 04:39 PM

Who isn't a streaky shooter?

any one who can shoot 50 % or better is not a streaky shooter 

 

kobe is on pace to have missed the most shots in nba history 



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Posted July 31, 2013 - 02:01 AM

How many shooting guards do you know with 50% field goal percentage? 



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Posted July 31, 2013 - 02:25 AM

http://espn.go.com/n...shooting-guards

 

Last year, Kobe was the third best shooting guard in the league, behind Dwyane Wade and...Jared Dudley. Out of all the active shooting guards right now, he's behind Wade, Dudley, Iguodala, and Afflalo in career field goal percentages. Dwyane shot an astounding .521 field goal percentage last season, but he's still a career .489 shooter, which I guess means that all shooting guards are streaky shooters by this very definition. 

 

So...why do we hold this against Kobe? 



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Posted July 31, 2013 - 04:06 AM

I ain't holding ish against kobe. Seen too many games of the mamba ripping the still beating hearts from opponents. Hell this past season dude was doing some crazy things most fans only dream about their team doing and he's got a million miles on him. Lebron j nows he ain't gonna be able to play like thatafter 20 yrs worth of games, that's why he's talking about not playing in the olympics anymore... #corazone cabrones corazone...

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Posted August 06, 2013 - 06:47 PM

Streaky No. A lot of forced shots yes. I could only imagine if he came off picks like Reggie Miller and Rip Hamilton. Wide open. But the Mamba is was to stubborn for that. He likes to Dribble and chuck Baby!!!  :boxing:



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Posted August 06, 2013 - 06:59 PM

any one who can shoot 50 % or better is not a streaky shooter 

 

kobe is on pace to have missed the most shots in nba history 

 

Also on pace to have score the most points in NBA history.

 

Streaky to some has a different meaning. To some it sounds as if a player has a shot you cant count on night in and night out. To others it just means when their on their on, and when their not their not. Kobe at times can be the ladder, would never put him in the former category because I wouldnt ever bet against his shot. We all know Kobe can go cold from the field, normally from putting up bad shots he does this. There are some nights when he seems to just be off, but that happens to any basketball player. However, how many nights have you seen Kobe start cold and then drop shots like nothing in the 3rd quarter? If that is what you think when you hear a streaky shooter, then yea I guess you would say the mamba is a streaky shooter. With that being said how many streaky shooters you know that could go for 81? Guys could be on fire from start to finish and never touch that. If your gonna call kobe a streaky shooter its safer to say he is normally on then not.


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Posted August 07, 2013 - 02:57 PM

All shooters are streaky. 

 

The question is what do you do when the shot is not falling?  Set picks, play defense, make passes, rebound, block shots. 



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Posted August 07, 2013 - 04:30 PM

Kobe can go 1/26 and then shoot the game winner.



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Posted August 07, 2013 - 05:00 PM

Kobe can go 1/26 and then shoot the game winner.

he's got that clutch factor ;)


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Posted August 07, 2013 - 05:04 PM

he's got that clutch factor ;)

 

Hell yeeeeeeah ;)



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Posted August 07, 2013 - 07:20 PM

Kobe can go 1/26 and then shoot the game winner.

 

Kobe can usually make up for his bad offensive game by winning the game. 



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Posted August 07, 2013 - 07:22 PM

Kobe can usually make up for his bad offensive game by winning the game. 

 

That's right. The man has unmeasurable confidence.






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