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#141 Majesty

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Posted July 14, 2013 - 02:09 AM

Nitpicking? That's the cold hard truth. We literally had no bench for 3 years, and little to no athleticism. I don't give him a pass just because he tried to land big names. Don't even go to CP3 trade fiasco, we could have avoided it if he shopped Pau right after the drama ended. Houston was more than willing to cooperate.

 

Mitch is no doubt a Top GM in this league. However, I will point out if something is wrong with the job he's doing.



You're also refusing to give credit when he does something right. 

Rather than say "good job" you waste time mentioning all the times he underachieved and remain focused on that.  It seems like nitpicking and not the "cold hard truth" when you choose to focus on the negative during times when something positive has been accomplished.


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Posted July 14, 2013 - 02:16 AM

When did I not give him any credit???? o.O

 

 

I have been on board with all the signings so far. I'm just saying if he did these moves sooner, it would have been better. Am I wrong? You guys are funny sometimes.

 

I mean we are bringing guys who could earn twice or three times the money elsewhere, even when we don't have competitive roster. That's fantastic, but just think back to Thunder series in 2012 when bench blown leads, and ended a what could have been a close series in 5. Same thing last season after all those injuries. We didn't have the means to rest guys and see other options to click sooner.


Edited by Goku, July 14, 2013 - 02:23 AM.


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Posted July 14, 2013 - 02:18 AM

Team is getting deeper and deeper and don't forget that he was a lottery pick back in 2010, he has great potential yet Mitch convinced him to Vets. FO doing a great job but this team is going to have MAJOR problems on the defensive end, i say we will rate 27th next season. Our center rotation consists of Gasol and Kaman(and Rob), 3 of our guards are old and the other 2 does not have the tools or IQ to be a good defender and we don't have a defenive specialist, a lock-on defender to slow the 3's down. Only Jordan Hill is a good help defender and now Wes has great potential but that's it. No defensive players plus a coach that lacks everything about defense. Singin Jordan Farmar is not a good move now, we have so many guards. And as much as i want Lamar back, we should not waste a roster spot or money on him, we need a defensive speacialist.



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Posted July 14, 2013 - 02:19 AM

I agree. Has Mitch made some bonehead moves regarding lengthy contracts, YES. Has he kept a championship or respectable product on the floor more than anyone else, YES with San Antonio Boston and Miami running close. Every GM slips, Mitch is human. By the way, that Chris Paul ISH wasn't his fault



You're also refusing to give credit when he does something right. 

Rather than say "good job" you waste time mentioning all the times he underachieved and remain focused on that.  It seems like nitpicking and not the "cold hard truth" when you choose to focus on the negative during times when something positive has been accomplished.



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Posted July 14, 2013 - 02:26 AM

So many GUARDS?? Look up SWINGMAN. Truth be told with Nash and Kobe's age and health, I think we have a good number of GUARDS. And don't forget we are still a couple of player short just to have a complete roster. As far as the LO thing, I think you are 100% correct but who else is out there that we can afford that is a good 3/4???

Team is getting deeper and deeper and don't forget that he was a lottery pick back in 2010, he has great potential yet Mitch convinced him to Vets. FO doing a great job but this team is going to have MAJOR problems on the defensive end, i say we will rate 27th next season. Our center rotation consists of Gasol and Kaman(and Rob), 3 of our guards are old and the other 2 does not have the tools or IQ to be a good defender and we don't have a defenive specialist, a lock-on defender to slow the 3's down. Only Jordan Hill is a good help defender and now Wes has great potential but that's it. No defensive players plus a coach that lacks everything about defense. Singin Jordan Farmar is not a good move now, we have so many guards. And as much as i want Lamar back, we should not waste a roster spot or money on him, we need a defensive speacialist.



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Posted July 14, 2013 - 02:33 AM

Love what Mitch is doing.


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Posted July 14, 2013 - 02:53 AM

Good pick up for the vet minimum ... I remember an article about kobe when he said we need to get younger and more athletic, the writer questioned if Kobe knows how the Lakers are limited financially. It shows you how Kobe trusts the FO and how stupid the writer is ..

 

 

On a diff note, as crazy as it sounds, I'd move Nash to the second unit joining Meeks, Wesley Odom(if signed) and kaman.. (Kobe or Young could get some time with this unit) I just feel we can optimize our players strengths by doing so, give two great ball handlers their chance to do what they do for the whole 48minutes..

 

 

With Blake/Young/Kobe/Hill/Pau we can be dangerous with PnR , Mid range and shot creation..

Nash/Meeks/Wesley/Odom/Kaman could be good too, with the minutes young could play with this unit fits Mike's system and floor spacing, helping Nash to operate..

 

 

Nash and Kobe should have enough time with Pau , man we could run different styles. Players need to pick it up early.. 

 

If we can get healthy and identified minutes and roles, we could make some noise..



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Posted July 14, 2013 - 04:03 AM

Interesting stat about Wes Johnson, he apparently had an amazing second half to the season
 

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For $900K, you don't get 40% three-point shooters but he averaged 12, shot 43% after All-Star break.

 

hopefully he brings THAT streak into LA with him where he shot 43% from 3 and averaged 12 after all-star break.


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    1. Got word from @robmurphyEMU who spoke to Wesley Johnson: Wes is besides himself with excitement for the Lakers opportunity


 

Edited by Majesty, July 14, 2013 - 04:17 AM.

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Posted July 14, 2013 - 04:39 AM

http://espn.go.com/n.../wesley-johnson

 

 

Look at the Mins he was getting before the All-Star break. He wasn't even playing under Alvin. Beasley is one of his best friends. 


Edited by Chad, July 14, 2013 - 04:43 AM.

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#150 Majesty

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Posted July 14, 2013 - 04:43 AM

http://espn.go.com/n.../wesley-johnson

 

 

Look at the Mins he was getting before the All-Star break. He wasn't even playing under Alvin. Beasley is his best friend. 



Woooow....

Alright so this guy did show he CAN be productive when he gets minutes and did improve since Minnesota.  That's good news.  

I hope that he can do that while he's here.


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Posted July 14, 2013 - 05:07 AM

Hopefully he could show his true potential with the Lakers.



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Posted July 14, 2013 - 05:47 AM

When he finally started getting minutes last year

 


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Posted July 14, 2013 - 06:39 AM

Those long term contracts were Jerry Buss. Certain guys he wanted to reward.
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Posted July 14, 2013 - 07:23 AM

Scrub.


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Posted July 14, 2013 - 07:27 AM

Scrub.


Are you focusing on how he played in his second year which was horrible.  Or are you focusing on his 3rd year he just had wherein he only played 2 games at 10 minutes and was buried on the bench.  And yet after all-star break when he finally got playing time he averaged 12 on 43% shooting and was actually the 2nd leading scorer on that team post all-star break.   That's an improvement, and for all we know he had improved during that summer  but Gentry never have him a chance to show it, but when he actually went out there to actually find his game he showed improvement.    He can keep improving if last year was any indication and has obviously worked hard to do so. 

But I'm just wondering if you knew none of this and were just focusing on his horrid 2nd year.  


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Posted July 14, 2013 - 07:37 AM

No matter what the Lakers do, some folks are never satisfied.
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Posted July 14, 2013 - 07:43 AM

Didn't really watch him in PHX. But in Minnesota he was bad... really bad!


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Posted July 14, 2013 - 07:48 AM

Didn't really watch him in PHX. But in Minnesota he was bad... really bad!



yeah I know.  His rookie season was promising but not spectacular and his 2nd season was one of the worst in recent memory.

But in Phoenix it wasn't all his fault.

Gentry out and out REFUSED to play him.  For the entire first half of the season he only played 10 minutes twice.  

It wasn't until Gentry was out and Lindsey hunter came in that he was actually given a chance.  He took advantage.

For the second half of the season he shot 43% and averaged 12 points per game and was the 2nd leading scorer on the team post all-star break.  

So for all we know he really did work on himself after that horrid second season and was looking forward to proving himself on the Suns.  But Gentry refused to give him  that chance.   Hunter did, and we saw what he could do and if he had improved into a 12 ppg 43% shooter that is a vast improvement over that terrible sophomore year.   

So if he continues to improve especially if he comes here and is continuously mentored by his mentor Kobe and surrounded by the veterans here I think he will do fine.

I don't expect him to be an all-star but I do expect him to make us not miss Clark that much. 

He was treated like a scrub in the first half of his season in Phoenix, but he showed in the 2nd half of the season that he was no longer in that category, but how he builds on it is ultimately up to him.   But I posted some of his phoenix videos from when he got playing time.  Enjoy them :)

I read an article once that said that he is still raw and that if someone wanted to maximize his talent they would ask him to play defense, become a spot up shooter for 3s in the corner, and be usedas a cutter for dunks  in the lane.

Found the quote

 

Watching Johnson play for five minutes, it’s very clear he has potential. But that potential has not been molded at all during his three years in the NBA. He’s still incredibly raw, and if someone with experience and authority doesn’t intervene soon, Johnson’s career might be completely spoiled.

Ideally, Johnson would learn to be a spot-up shooter who spaces the floor, hits threes from the corner and wing, and cuts from the backside to get layups and dunks. It will take a strong yet patient coach to turn Johnson into that.

 
That is PRETTY MUCH the role he'll have here.   So he's walking into a perfect situation.

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Posted July 14, 2013 - 07:50 AM

No matter what the Lakers do, some folks are never satisfied.



They wont be satisfied till we get the best coach ever in Phil, a prime Michael Jordan, Lebron, Shaq, Magic and Kobe. With a bench consisting of hall of famers.

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Posted July 14, 2013 - 07:51 AM

They wont be satisfied till we get the best coach ever in Phil, a prime Michael Jordan, Lebron, Shaq, Magic and Kobe. With a bench consisting of hall of famers.


They would be unhappy with LeBron




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