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#81 LakeShow805

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Posted July 12, 2013 - 10:10 AM

Harden > Dwight any day of the week.  And to be honest I think the in many ways the addition of Dwight could linger and harm the game of Harden.  It'll possibly improve Parsons being that he is a spot up shooter but Harden needs the ball to create his shot and most of his penetration and movement is with the ball rather than off it.

lol no....Dwight is the better player.



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Posted July 12, 2013 - 03:37 PM

Dwight wasn't worthy of having the torch passed to him. 

 

Even he knew it. That's why he left. 


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Posted July 12, 2013 - 03:57 PM

dwight is going to beast, im not going to deny that..when healthy.. that guy is a great defender...


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Posted July 12, 2013 - 04:17 PM

Pass the torch to Dwight and he would have burned the Lakers down to the ground.

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Posted July 12, 2013 - 08:44 PM

We all watched Dwight play, he wasn't a fit with the Lakers, we all saw it, and unfortunately for him the Lakers are a franchise of winners, which he is not.



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Posted July 13, 2013 - 12:30 AM

Kobe should have knocked Dwight out with the torch.


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Posted July 13, 2013 - 05:24 AM

On its merits, I don't have a problem with the plan of amnestying Kobe in an attempt to bring in a marquee talent, etc. We discussed this ad nauseum in April/May.

But, that plan should not have come from Dwight. He has not earned that right, especially not with the Lakers. That needed to be a plan hatched by Kobe and Lakers management with a complete understanding of what's in play and what's at stake.

A lot of people are using what went down as evidence that the Lakers did not treat a star player appropriately. You could argue the opposite. One could argue that the Lakers have so much appreciation for Kobe and what he's done for this franchise that they were unwilling to amensty him in an attempt to rebuild now.

Kobe wanted Dwight to take the torch. It's a shame that Dwight didn't have the mental make-up to embrace the opportunity that was in front of him.

Sure, Kobe has his faults, but I think Dwight blew an amazing opportunity here, and will ultimately live to regret it.

This, I truly believe in 5-10 years and eventaully when Howard retires, he will ultimately regret his decision not staying with the Lakers. 

 

I still believe LA will hang banner #17 before Houston gets #3! You heard it here first! haha


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Posted July 13, 2013 - 07:55 AM


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Posted July 13, 2013 - 08:10 AM

I had this discussion with a friend about her business.

Lakers want to win at most costs, but not at ALL costs.

Amnestying Kobe would be selling your soul. Not worth the backlash or karma.

Really not worth it for a guy who looked great in a weak conference and in low leverage situations.

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Posted July 13, 2013 - 08:56 AM

The center piece of your franchise has to be a player who can create his shot and make FT in the last minute of a close game.
Harden > Dwight

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Posted July 13, 2013 - 09:22 AM

I think dwight shouldve stayed in Orlando


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Posted July 13, 2013 - 09:36 AM

The center piece of your franchise has to be a player who can create his shot and make FT in the last minute of a close game.
Harden > Dwight

So by your logic, Shaq was never a franchise player?



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Posted July 13, 2013 - 11:12 AM

So by your logic, Shaq was never a franchise player?

I think it's more like saying , Shaq needed guys who were dependable enough to take and make 4th quarter buckets and FTs.

So if Shaq would have had Derrick Rose to this point, or Rondo he would have had 0 titles

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Posted July 13, 2013 - 11:38 AM

I think it's more like saying , Shaq needed guys who were dependable enough to take and make 4th quarter buckets and FTs.

So if Shaq would have had Derrick Rose to this point, or Rondo he would have had 0 titles

He would have won with one of those players.



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Posted July 13, 2013 - 11:53 AM

So by your logic, Shaq was never a franchise player?

 

Shaq can get his own shot and make FTs when they matter.



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Posted July 13, 2013 - 01:08 PM

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Posted July 13, 2013 - 01:31 PM

Harden better than Dwight? This is up for debate?

 

Harden had a breakout year last year with the Rockets, in comparison to his past seasons where he may have been greater hindered by two other spectacular players. All of a sudden, he is a superstar franchise center piece? I see a lot of potential for the dude, but I just don't see the argument for being better than D12.

 

D12 averages more points, rebounds and blocks over his career than Harden has. I mean, D12 gobbled up more rebounds and more blocks coming back from an injury last year than Harden did, while only averaging ~8 less points with Kobe Bryant on his team. A fully healthy Dwight Howard? Please.

 

I agree that a key part of being a successful franchise player is being able to hit key free throws -- but it isn't the only piece.


Edited by -Wade-, July 13, 2013 - 01:46 PM.

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Posted July 13, 2013 - 03:34 PM

Shaq can get his own shot and make FTs when they matter.

Dwight can get his own shot as well. 

 

Yea.....sometimes.

 

 

Dwight is a franchise player. End of discussion.



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Posted July 13, 2013 - 04:16 PM

Dwight vs. Harden is a stupid debate. D12 carried his team to the finals as the best offensive and defensive player. Harden just last season experienced being a primary option on the Rockets and couldn't even get out of the first round. He has a long way to go. 






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