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#1 Majesty

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Posted July 08, 2013 - 01:39 AM

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Dr. Jerry Buss told Jeanie that hiring Mike D’Antoni was his decision



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According to Ramona Shelburne, the late Dr. Jerry Buss told his daughter, Jeanie, that it was his call to hire Mike D’Antoni instead of Phil Jackson last year:
 

Later on, the elder Buss explained to his daughter that the final decision on the hire had been his, and it was not personal towards Jackson. He simply saw the NBA heading in a direction that seemed to fit D’Antoni’s uptempo style.

 

While this isn’t news to some Laker fans, it will be to others, who have wrongly put the blame of hiring D’Antoni on Jim Buss.


 

Jerry always wanted to get back to the Showtime style of basketball that Magic Johnson‘s Lakers were so good at during the 80s. Hiring D’Antoni to coach Steve Nash and Dwight Howard seemed like a perfect fit.

 

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I understand why Dr Buss would think this.  The unfortunate thing is the point guard we got to attempt this with was about 2 years too late, and the other one got taken from us by Stern when this plan was initially set in motion after the lockout.
 


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#2 Ven

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Posted July 08, 2013 - 03:25 AM

Well plenty of reporters have said the two biggest factors were the supposed tension between Dr. Buss and PJ at that point, ranging from authority to financial PR moves. Secondly being that Dr. Buss at his age and point in health was genuinely sold on the fact that MDA was capable of Showtime 2.0.



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Posted July 08, 2013 - 03:33 AM

Well there ya go.

We can now end that pointless debate and try to focus on the future rather than the past.

This thread should so be Pinned.


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Posted July 08, 2013 - 05:00 AM

There will still be people that blame Jim.

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Posted July 08, 2013 - 05:59 AM

Jim still has the power to fire the dude.

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Posted July 08, 2013 - 06:00 AM

jim buss is like a child, that would rather break his own toy, before let someone else use it

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Posted July 08, 2013 - 06:33 AM

Why is this emerging only now, after Jerry's death?  I love it when deceased folks get the blame for something, see it all the time in my end of the business world.  Kinda hard for them to refute, clarify or confirm, no?

 

Most states have something called a dead mans law.  No one can testify against a deceased, claiming that he/ she said or did something. Makes sense.

 

But let's ignore all that, just for fun.  Final decision.  That means, despite MDA's  (at best) mediocre track record,  someone else made the initial determination that it was a good idea to hire him over Phil and brought it to Jerry.  Who could that have been?  At the time (mid Nov 2012), Jerry was 80 years old, dying of cancer.  Do we really think it was all objectively presented to him?  Do we think that Jerry had all his faculties to realize that he was getting less than the full story?  Let's be real here.  



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Posted July 08, 2013 - 06:54 AM

Why is this emerging only now, after Jerry's death?  I love it when deceased folks get the blame for something, see it all the time in my end of the business world.  Kinda hard for them to refute, clarify or confirm, no?

 

Most states have something called a dead mans law.  No one can testify against a deceased, claiming that he/ she said or did something. Makes sense.

 

But let's ignore all that, just for fun.  Final decision.  That means, despite MDA's  (at best) mediocre track record,  someone else made the initial determination that it was a good idea to hire him over Phil and brought it to Jerry.  Who could that have been?  At the time (mid Nov 2012), Jerry was 80 years old, dying of cancer.  Do we really think it was all objectively presented to him?  Do we think that Jerry had all his faculties to realize that he was getting less than the full story?  Let's be real here.  

 

It isn't. This has been said a long LONG time ago, but people like you continue to ignore it regardless of the truth.

 

You need someone to blame, but the guy you want to blame isn't around anymore and even so you liked him too much to blame him. 

 

You guys are no different than 9/11 conspiracy theorists. 



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Posted July 08, 2013 - 07:00 AM


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Posted July 08, 2013 - 07:00 AM

It isn't. This has been said a long LONG time ago, but people like you continue to ignore it regardless of the truth.

 

You need someone to blame, but the guy you want to blame isn't around anymore and even so you liked him too much to blame him. 

 

You guys are no different than 9/11 conspiracy theorists. 

First I have heard of the Jeannie quote.  

 

If you want to think that an 80 YO man dying cancer made the "real" decision here, feel free.  And its not about blame, Its about ducking responsibility.  Jim has been running the bball side of the team for quite awhile.  He was technically required to obtain final approval from his dying father.  If Jerry had all his faculties and made the real decision, I would be just as hard on him..

 

More than likely, Jim stated his case, Jerry nodded his head, then turned up the morphine drip a couple of notches.  Been there, seen it a few times.  No conspiracy theory needed.



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Posted July 08, 2013 - 07:16 AM

First I have heard of the Jeannie quote.  

 

If you want to think that an 80 YO man dying cancer made the "real" decision here, feel free.  And its not about blame, Its about ducking responsibility.  Jim has been running the bball side of the team for quite awhile.  He was technically required to obtain final approval from his dying father.  If Jerry had all his faculties and made the real decision, I would be just as hard on him..

 

More than likely, Jim stated his case, Jerry nodded his head, then turned up the morphine drip a couple of notches.  Been there, seen it a few times.  No conspiracy theory needed.

 

Cool, thanks for the insight. Nice to hear a view from someone who was in the room.



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Posted July 08, 2013 - 07:31 AM

LOL@People already in denial where it says it right here.


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Posted July 08, 2013 - 07:34 AM

There will always be dumbasses who think they know best about the organization.



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Posted July 08, 2013 - 07:35 AM

Cool, thanks for the insight. Nice to hear a view from someone who was in the room.

Did I say i was there?  Sarcastic digs that attempt to (incorrectly) re-frame my points don't help you, they just make your counterargument look weak.  

 

Let's agree to disagree, and judge Jim on his record going forward.



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Posted July 08, 2013 - 08:00 AM

Did I say i was there?  Sarcastic digs that attempt to (incorrectly) re-frame my points don't help you, they just make your counterargument look weak.  

 

Let's agree to disagree, and judge Jim on his record going forward.

 

lol

 

My counter argument looks weak, in the thread where there's literally a news article saying the OPPOSITE of what you're saying? You do realize if you scroll to the top of the screen there's a whole quote inside proving your entire belief on this subject wrong, right?

 

So again, what proof do you have? Oh that's right....you just know. 



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Posted July 08, 2013 - 08:12 AM

People will believe what they want to believe.

It was well reported by the legitimate reporters that it was Jerry Buss who decided to bring D'Antoni in. Jim was in agreement but Jeanie & Mitch Kupchak wanted Phil Jackson. There was divide but what's done is done.

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Posted July 08, 2013 - 08:56 AM

Jim still has the power to fire the dude.



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Posted July 08, 2013 - 09:15 AM

This is not even a new story. Are there still fans that never thing Jerry Buss chooses MDA? The same fans who think D12 will play for the lakers next year? Ignorant fans?  Dr Buss do make mistakes sometimes and unfortunately this is his last mistake he made. But Jim Buss still have the power to fire a coach. It doesn;t matter who wanted Mike D Antoni. What matters is the results and how to fix it and it is obvious the result sucks. 


MDA is an offensive genius. I hope he sticks to his guns and keeps doing what he does best: Run and Gun. That's the only way to coach.


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Posted July 08, 2013 - 09:23 AM

Why is he still here? Why was he hired in the first place? What made them think a perennial loser was the answer?


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Posted July 08, 2013 - 10:22 AM

Why is he still here? Why was he hired in the first place? What made them think a perennial loser was the answer?

 

All this news tells me is that Jerry Buss was part of an awful hire. It makes me think a little less of him as a basketball-decision maker, not any better of Jim Buss. But, he's still had an unbelievable history. So if he were the one in still charge, I would more easily be able to believe in him after this mistake.

 

I don't think Jim was against it at all, so you can't really say he's any better because of this news.


Edited by Japago, July 08, 2013 - 10:35 AM.

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